Our Breasts Are At Risk - Red Alert

SuperFemme · 11-17-2009, 09:59 AM

It was all over the news this morning that a "panel" has decided that mammograms are kind of useless and are recommending that we don't have them now until AFTER 50. The frightening part of this is that now insurances are probably not going to pay for them at 40 (which is late IMO).

Here is a link to the story; http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/17/he...ef=todayspaper

Which got me to thinking, Who ARE these people? Here is a link to that: http://www.ahrq.gov/clinic/uspstfab.htm

There are several men and women but NOT ONE oncologist or gynaecologist.

I am wondering how this agency is funded and cannot find that info. Breast Cancer is a killer, and early detection is key to having a chance at recovery.
Now health insurance companies have a way to not pay for the screenings that save so many lives. I'm off to do more research.

Diva · 11-17-2009, 10:09 AM

Thanks SF...........this is frightening. Who determines the magic cut~off age?????? I had a friend die of breast cancer. She was 35.

Jeez.

Vlasta · 11-17-2009, 10:26 AM

yes , this is absolutely crazy !!! I am so mad about it ... I was watching this on CNN and S.Gupta was giving his opinion on this .

I had pt not a long ago, just have a baby age 22 diagnosed with a breast CA with mets after delivery . She was getting Hickman for a chemo and have at home a week old baby . I want to cry for her , I spend time with her just to find out this young lady didn't even realized how serious were her conditions .

This is so scary for all the women out there . Where we are heading to with the healthcare ?

robbrt · 11-17-2009, 10:55 AM

What a load of

MizzSabra · 11-17-2009, 12:08 PM

I watched this story on the news last night and thought to myself....these people are freaking crazy! Two women on my mother's side (Aunt and Grandmother) both had breast cancer, both survived. This puts me in a "special" group of women who are to be tested at the age of 40 and every year there after. I love being special! NOT.

It's truly sickening that Viagra is available to men who can't get a hard on, but women now might have to WAIT to get a mammogram that will save their lives?

Selenay · 11-17-2009, 12:15 PM

It also says women age 50 to 74 should have mammograms less frequently — every two years, rather than every year. And it said doctors should stop teaching women to examine their breasts on a regular basis.

Just seven years ago, the same group, the United States Preventive Services Task Force, with different members, recommended that women have mammograms every one to two years starting at age 40. . .

Congress requires Medicare to pay for annual mammograms. Medicare can change its rules to pay for less frequent tests if federal officials direct it to.

Private insurers are required by law in every state except Utah to pay for mammograms for women in their 40s.

Source

Arwen · 11-17-2009, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperFemme

It was all over the news this morning that a "panel" has decided that mammograms are kind of useless and are recommending that we don't have them now until AFTER 50. The frightening part of this is that now insurances are probably not going to pay for them at 40 (which is late IMO).

This makes me very angry. I'm willing to bet that panel gets shot down for stupidity though.

Bootboi · 11-17-2009, 10:15 AM

Not a bunch of bright light bulbs on that panel. Just goes to show you we will have to be even more vigilant and proactive about our own health care. Also, any good Dr. will know its a suggested *cough* guideline and not the "rule".

SuperFemme · 11-17-2009, 10:26 AM

Watching two *experts* on GMA right now. One is for the new policy with the ridiculous claim that "there are no proven cases of mammograms detecting cancer in anyone under 50" while plugging her org. that concentrates on a cure. See her on the second video and pls share your thoughts.
WTH?

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEANaWBUt1Y"]YouTube- Breast Cancer Screening and Mammography Expert,Constance Lehman, MD,[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSZi1U6AxaU"]YouTube- New Mammogram Advice[/ame]

DamSkippy · 05-05-2010, 12:28 AM

If i had to wait till i was 50 to get checked i would be dead. Found my lump 20 days after i turned 40, i'm 44 now and in remission. I had stage 2, Invaisive Ductal Carsinoma, Her2 -, ER/PR+, Braca Gene 1 and 2 (negative), partial hystro due to grapefruit sized cycst on ovaries at 42.

Toughy · 05-05-2010, 08:01 AM

look people..........

No matter what your age if you find a lump you will get a mammogram and appropriate follow-up testing (ultra sound, biopsy). It is ludicrous to suggest otherwise and nothing in any recommendations I have ever read suggest anything else.

I am talking about routine yearly screening mammograms for low risk women.

Concerning BSE, let me see if I can explain my position a bit better. I don't like the ritualized search and destroy mindset of standing in front of the mirror, looking for visual defects in my breasts and then feeling around each breast looking for cancer. Just doesn't work for me.

That being said, over the years I have had two lumps in my breasts that required mammogram follow-up. Neither of them was found by doing the BSE. One I found while taking a shower....you know soap and water on the breast... and the other was found by a sexual partner.

The point is........know what your breasts feel like. If it works for you to do BSE, then by all means.....however I can't go with that looking for cancer mindset on a monthly basis. There are other far more positive ways to know your breasts.

Andrew, Jr. · 05-05-2010, 09:46 AM

Cancer sucks.

11-17-2009, 09:59 AM	#1
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11-17-2009, 12:15 PM	#6
Selenay Member How Do You Identify?: A soul for a compass and a heart for a pair of wings. Preferred Pronoun?: All I ask of living is to have no chains on me. Relationship Status: All I own are the strides I spend to the finish line. Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Somewhere in between here and gone. Posts: 662 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 110 Thanked 1,449 Times in 369 Posts Rep Power: 6344714	The Real Reason This Is So Troubling... It also says women age 50 to 74 should have mammograms less frequently — every two years, rather than every year. And it said doctors should stop teaching women to examine their breasts on a regular basis. Just seven years ago, the same group, the United States Preventive Services Task Force, with different members, recommended that women have mammograms every one to two years starting at age 40. . . Congress requires Medicare to pay for annual mammograms. Medicare can change its rules to pay for less frequent tests if federal officials direct it to. Private insurers are required by law in every state except Utah to pay for mammograms for women in their 40s. Source __________________ Two or three things I know for sure, And one is that I would rather go naked Than wear the coat the world has made for me.

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MizzSabra Member How Do You Identify?: N/a Relationship Status: N/A Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 107 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 16 Thanked 109 Times in 40 Posts Rep Power: 60797	I watched this story on the news last night and thought to myself....these people are freaking crazy! Two women on my mother's side (Aunt and Grandmother) both had breast cancer, both survived. This puts me in a "special" group of women who are to be tested at the age of 40 and every year there after. I love being special! NOT. It's truly sickening that Viagra is available to men who can't get a hard on, but women now might have to WAIT to get a mammogram that will save their lives?

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05-05-2010, 12:28 AM	#10
DamSkippy Junior Member How Do You Identify?: Femme Preferred Pronoun?: aka: ThinkPink9 Relationship Status: Sky's the limit Join Date: May 2010 Location: Northern Califonia Posts: 2 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts Rep Power: 0	If i had to wait till i was 50 to get checked i would be dead. Found my lump 20 days after i turned 40, i'm 44 now and in remission. I had stage 2, Invaisive Ductal Carsinoma, Her2 -, ER/PR+, Braca Gene 1 and 2 (negative), partial hystro due to grapefruit sized cycst on ovaries at 42.

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