Pillow Princess

[Kal-el Trail]

Originally Posted by MsTinkerbelly

Ah, you are correct, "most" straight people, especially men have (in the past) either come to judge us, get a little (or a lot) iky, or study us for a paper they are writing. While i understand that this is a "public website" (although privately owned) and anyone can read what is written here, i personally am not comfortable with hetrosexual men being in what should be "safe" space.

To be honest, I came here looking for people who could relate. But if straight men make people here nervous, I can respect that and respectfully leave. Unfortunately, there aren't (or doesn't seem to be) any other groups out there that seem to relate.

[Jet]

Originally Posted by Kal-el Trail

To be honest, I came here looking for people who could relate. But if straight men make people here nervous, I can respect that and respectfully leave. Unfortunately, there aren't (or doesn't seem to be) any other groups out there that seem to relate.

Relate to what?

[Kal-el Trail]

Originally Posted by MsTinkerbelly

I do not understand why you would want to be here; i mean, there wouldn't be much of a dating pool here, and we're not here (well most of us) to educate the general population about queer sex practices, and you (general you) can find a whole bunch of other sites dediated to golf or travel or yada yada yada.

Any way...i am going to get my ass handed to me for being unwelcoming, but i gotta tell you my truth so you will understand how a few others are going to feel, although i am not speaking for anyone but me. We are not here to educate you about women, and wevare not here to educate you about being queer...we are part of a community that deals with men thinking they can go anywhere they want, simply because they are men.

I'm done. Sorry Medusa and Jack

Ummm...I'm not here to be educated. I am no stranger to people who are queer, bisexual or any other form of sexual preference. I have many gay female friends, one of which I was simi intimate with. She related to me on a level that no other woman has ever related to me on.

Furthermore, I am not here looking for any hook-ups either. I'm not the traveling type...and besides all the impractical means it would take to meet anyone from this web site, I am not here to try and convince anyone to be with a straight man.

Ugh...I can see joining this site was a bad idea. Sorry for interrupting.

[RockOn]

Pillow Princesses are wonderful. I need their affections, their squeezing my buttocks, up my back and shoulders ... screamers break my concentration ( I'm just not that good ) but soft moans are oh so sweet while it is going on ...

I am totally satisfied in every way and all my needs are met.

Really like reading this topic, h.b.! Thank you and thanking everyone for their participation.

[RockOn]

Kal-el Trail,

Speaking only for myself. You are right, definitely bad idea. Your apology is accepted by me.

Exit to your left.

Good-Bye.

[DapperButch]

Originally Posted by Kal-el Trail

Ummm...I'm not here to be educated. I am no stranger to people who are queer, bisexual or any other form of sexual preference. I have many gay female friends, one of which I was simi intimate with. She related to me on a level that no other woman has ever related to me on.

Furthermore, I am not here looking for any hook-ups either. I'm not the traveling type...and besides all the impractical means it would take to meet anyone from this web site, I am not here to try and convince anyone to be with a straight man.

Ugh...I can see joining this site was a bad idea. Sorry for interrupting.

I think a little clarity would be helpful here.

Were you born a biological male (meaning, assigned male at birth)?

Or are you a person who was born biologically female (meaning, assigned female at birth), who identifies as a straight male?

Thanks.

[Jet]

Originally Posted by RockOn

Kal-el Trail,

Speaking only for myself. You are right, definitely bad idea. Your apology is accepted by me.

Exit to your left.

Good-Bye.

Geezus RockOn, don't sugar coat it. LOL

[The_Lady_Snow]

Originally Posted by DapperButch

I think a little clarity would be helpful here.

Were you born a biological male (meaning, assigned male at birth)?

Or are you a person who was born biologically female (meaning, assigned female at birth), who identifies as a straight male?

Thanks.

Well fuck, I never thought to ask, I just assumed he was not a cisgender dude

[nycfem]

Just to be clear, this site is not for cis gender males. I have PM-ed him but have not yet heard back (sent message same time as Dapper). I think what he is saying is that he is a cis gender male who has queer friends and has liked being intimate with a queer woman, he thought this site might be a cool place to chill with people on. Unfortunately this is not the right site for him if he is a cis gender male. Just to be extra clear some trans men id as het males / straight males and are welcome on the site... but this site is not for cis gender males whether straight or homosexual!

[RockOn]

I "read" him to be a bio straight male. If wrong, I have to apologize.

Anyway, that is the reason why I (as Jet noticed )sugar-coated my response.

[RockOn]

Thank you, nycfemm!

Now, can someone please come and talk more hot about Pillow Princesses?

[nycfem]

So it's been clarified that this is a cis gender bio-born male (I should have added bio-born in my own previous post), and I have explained that this site is just not the right place for bio born cis gendered males. He's taking a gracious exit.

[nycfem]

BTW, pardon my struggle with the vocab soup. Just trying to handle this quickly due to many reports. Hopefully it's clear what I am trying to get across.

[DapperButch]

Originally Posted by nycfem

Just to be clear, this site is not for cis gender males. I have PM-ed him but have not yet heard back (sent message same time as Dapper). I think what he is saying is that he is a cis gender male who has queer friends and has liked being intimate with a queer woman, he thought this site might be a cool place to chill with people on. Unfortunately this is not the right site for him if he is a cis gender male. Just to be extra clear some trans men id as het males / straight males and are welcome on the site... but this site is not for cis gender males whether straight or homosexual!

Right. I used the terms biological and assigned male/female at birth, as there are a lot of people out there who do not know what the term cis means.

Yes, we have more than one FTM "straight" person here, so that is why I thought it was important to ask the question. Also, some people stop identifying as "trans*", if they view their transition as "complete" (which is why I specifically asked what sex they were assigned at birth).

Glad you stepped in and PMmed him, NYC.

EDIT: posted this prior to seeing NYC's latest posts

[The_Lady_Snow]

Well that was certainly interesting for a Monday!

[DapperButch]

Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow

Well that was certainly interesting for a Monday!

Truly laughed out loud.

[nycfem]

Originally Posted by DapperButch

Also, some people stop identifying as "trans*", if they view their transition as "complete" (which is why I specifically asked what sex they were assigned at birth).

Thanks, Dapper, yes, thanks for articulating.

[Jet]

Kal-El Trail, you know, this is in the forum OTHER SEXUALITIES AND IDENTITIES. That includes Straight. It's easy to stumble upon and post just because you see this as an open forum. But it would serve you well to do your homework and read up before you come on strong after, let's say "a hard day's work as workin' man tough guy which you claim to be. Bad move.

So, Kal-El Trail before you hit the trail, know this...

One, you're not the only man here. The men here are just as valid as you as FtMs and TGs and stone TGs. Some guys here may indeed be biologically straight. Who knows. But there are guys here who could kick your face off your head. So never come on like a tough guy because you're asking for it. If you don't believe me, bring 'er on down to jo-juh.

Two, do your homework. People join sites because they feel safe and they want to express themselves in a space that accomodates their views. Knowledge would serve you well, sir.

Three, don't fuck this up for yourself. Be considerate of other people. This is NOT adultfinder.com or Facebook or the like where there is only one way to think—you're way. The lady (Ms. Tinkerbelly) didn't like your post, much less your presence, but she might have had you been sensitive and considerate had you looked before you leaped. Good luck.

[nycfem]

Let's move on.

[fatallyblonde]

JFC another good topic derailed by a bro coming in and chucking his weight all around. vomit.

ANYWAY. back to the topic at hand!

"pillow princess" is definitely a derogatory term but lots of us princesses have reclaimed it XD cos as others have pointed out the perception is that we 'just lay there and do nothing' but actually we are certainly active, passionate participants... just the nature of our participation looks different to the 'you fuck me then I fuck you' style... some people can't understand it... well honeys... you're not fucking us so you don't fucking have to lol!
Those who love the pillow princesses know and appreciate and respect our own style of participation and love us for it! Just as we love them for what they give us.

I personally never switch... it feels unnatural and inauthentic to me... just not how I get down. I can't relax in that role. It feels false. That's not how sex should feel! So I don't switch but certainly I know many, many people who do and love it.

I'm all about do what is right for you with partners who have complementary desire...

if pillow princesses are not your thing then fine... but don't make the mistake of thinking there aren't plenty of people for whom pillow princesses are exactly right! and most of all don't diss the way other consenting adults enjoy having sex with each other... just because it isn't your thing.