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05-08-2011, 05:13 PM | #1 |
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Clothes do not Maketh the butch ....
Or do they ?
How important is clothing to you ?
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clothes do not make the femme
or do they it matters to some it doesn't matter to some it is individual i am to busy worrying about being me to worry about what others think about me
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Butch is a gender no? The shell does not represent gender, that's just me
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People argue with me here butch is a look not a gender, I also get told I chose to be this way ..
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Merlin, clothes don't make anyone any gender, one is who one is and those who can't or wont accept you for you need a checklist for their own BS. K?
We all are who we are and those who matter could give a rats ass, and those who don't, you don't give a second thought to. SSWA (so say we all). You be the best HUMAN you can and to hockey pucks what anyone else thinks.
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I'd be very surprised if anyone in the bf community over on this side of the pond have said that butch is not a gender! People in mainstream lezzer-land would possibly say such a thing though.
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They have to me doc.
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In my experience over on this side of the pond, people have said such things--or the equivalent: that a femme cannot wear men's clothing without magically turning herself into a butch--because they have rigid ideas about the meaning of "butch" and "femme." Some people have been open to a discussion and to broadening that definition; some people have used it as a wall of defense to avoid talking about it, a way to categorize and dismiss me. Mostly these days I don't run into such nonsense anymore. Hope it gets better for you, too. |
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People sometimes give way too much of their opinion! So sorry people tell you you should dress this way or that. It happened to me too in my younger days, now I just refuse to engage.
Do clothes make the Butch? no. Do I love to be out with a well dressed Butch? Hell yes!
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These people have obviously NEVER seen me in men's clothing. I have a sexy as Hell, black on black suit that I wear when I want to attract extra attention and I can assure you that I have never been mistaken for a butch woman. Ideas should be flexible, and minds open.
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I prefer to be wearing some.
Bending minds ~ Shapeshifting theories. It's up to all of us to bury those rusty ways of thinking. I mean, unless I am walking around covered in a box, I prefer not to be placed in one either; so actively challenging the antiquated theories that have managed to spill over into this day and age is surely one way to keep things interesting. My attire and general appearance is a style all it's own. Makes me shudder to think that the way a shirt buttons up the front, left or right...can pull the weight of judgement from society. Lots of thoughts on this, but it'll have to wait...as mah schedule is full of today.
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Clothes don't make you a butch...plenty that defy that based on their own personal style (or lack of style <g>), or their gender bending wearing both male and female clothes, or however it works for them, etc. Not all butches want to wear ties or boxer briefs or whatever you might use as the barometer to measure "butchness".
In the leather community we can spot s/m folks---yeah, in this case stands for stand and model s/m rather than actual leather folk. Leather folks don't all own leather clothing and leather clothing certainly does not make you a leather community person or someone that understands what earning one's leathers means. Rope-- |
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I have never passed up a gift because of the gift wrap. If my S/O treats me well. they can certainly dress as they desire. Now, if they specifically ask me to shop for them/dress them, I will certainly do so. I have dated a few women who prefer that I do the shopping simply because I liked to do it and they would rather not.
As a femme, I have had plenty of times that I was judged because of my appearance. I would not, have not and refuse to do the same.
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