FTM C*ck - Page 2

pinkajl · 09-12-2011, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by EnderD_503

I'm a bit confused about what you mean by emotional safety. . . For me, the reason is not because I find the idea of femme cock offensive, I just know what freaks me out and triggers my dysphoria...which isn't limited to femme cock, but any cock or object attempting to enter any part of my body.

EnderD,

I think in this case emotional safety = trigger for dysphoria, which is probably a better term for what I was asking about.

I do hear what you're saying and agree with you that there is quite a bit of diversity and no one single way to define the butch femme dynamic.

Thanks for sharing.
Pink.

kannon · 09-12-2011, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pinkajl

Oh my, at the risk of derailing this thread before it even truly begins, some of the posts remind me of a comment made during a workshop I facilitated this weekend at a women's festival.

The workshop: Butches and the Femmes Who Love Them

The question: What do you call a femme who straps on?
The answer (provided by a stone butch attendee): A lesbian

Seriously, would an FTM or a butch truly embrace femme cock? I'm not talking about competition or size. I'm not even talking about Dom/sub roles. I'm talking about identity, emotional safety, and the whole dynamic.

Pink

Femme cock has never been part of my sexual proclivities. I think I would have to feel secure and safe to freely experience something so foreign. So, I understand the emotional safety thing.

apretty · 09-13-2011, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by kannon

...I think I would have to feel secure and safe to freely experience...

Me too. I don't think safe feelings are gender specific, is the point I was trying to make earlier.

kannon · 09-13-2011, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by apretty

Me too. I don't think safe feelings are gender specific, is the point I was trying to make earlier.

True. I guess I've always assumed it's more emotionally stressful for the FTM, butch or male ID individual.

EnderD_503 · 09-14-2011, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by kannon

True. I guess I've always assumed it's more emotionally stressful for the FTM, butch or male ID individual.

I agree with what apretty said on this one, as far as it not being gender-specific.

I don't think its always more emotionally stressful for certain identities than others. Even if many non-feminine identities suffer from dysphoria or are stone and don't feel connected with their physical anatomy that way, there are trans and other male, masculine or neutral identities who aren't dysphoric or have minimal dysphoria. I also think in these convos we tend to forget about pre-op transwomen (whether butch or femme) who are also a part of the b/f dynamic, and the dysphoria they might feel. Or stone femmes, not here meaning stone femmes who id as such because they prefer to be with stone butches, but stone femmes who don't like being touched/penetrated.

I don't think that it's because these women or feminine identities are more "rare" than non-feminine counterparts, but because sometimes, as a community, we focus too much on the struggles of non-feminine (here meaning gender neutral, gender fluid, third gender or male identities) identities. Not even as a community here, but as a greater lgbtq community. Like why aren't there as many books written on that form of female/woman/feminine sexuality as there are about male/masculine/gender neutral/fluid?

I'm also not sure these perspectives are easy to change. I've definitely heard what I'm saying here brought up many times before in this community and elsewhere, but it doesn't seem to change the subject of the majority of the discussions. So how do we change that?

chefhmboyrd · 05-23-2012, 07:15 PM

i think the discussion about safety can cover so many difference perspectives. whether you are butch, femme, stone, ftm, mtf, genderqueer, intersexed, cis, or gender fluid.
It boils down to trust.
do i trust this person with my most vulnerable moments, to completely submit to them and open myself to them?
are you going to allow them to penetrate you physically, mentally, spiritually, metaphorically, partially, or completely?
can you count on this person to use discretion, and not tell your innermost passions to others, or use them against you in the future?
do i feel safe with this person?

@

Nadeest · 05-23-2012, 10:07 PM

I can say, as a preop tranwoman, that we vary, just as much as any other group does. Some do enjoy using their 'Original Equipment' while they have it, and for others, it is a complete turnoff. I have heard of some that prefer using a strapon, though I am certainly not one of them.
For me, using my 'original equipment' or a strapon triggers my dysphoria, and would be very uncomfortable. Others, however, are different.

Ginger · 06-03-2012, 01:42 PM

So far, from reading these posts, I'm understanding that the difference between FTM and butch cock is that one is a response to gender dysphoria and one is a response to female-bodied sexual expression—or maybe that's a misread or incomplete reading.

(And so far, no one is talking about surgically constructed FTM cock, so that's not in the analysis; I'm just mentioning that to be clear that when I say FTM cock I'm talking about strapped on cock.)

My question is, what is different, and what is the same, in the relationship an FTM or butch might have with his/her/hyr cock?

Thank you, anyone who responds. I think you're all great, btw.

TenderKnight · 06-03-2012, 07:16 PM

mmm.. Not that I don't love getting into long winded debates about intimacy issues and security issues and what the difference between butch and FTM cock..

BUT..

I was kinda just hoping to talk about my cock and how much I enjoy it.. When I say my cock I am talking about the equipment I was born with and that I am slowly starting to love again. I love it so much that I posted a picture of it on another adult themed site.. It is getting bigger now that I am on T and is actually starting to stick out a lil more.. I look down sometimes and say, "go lil guy, GO!".. well not out loud.. but yeah..

Maybe that is what one could say along the topic of security.. I feel secure enough in my manhood not to be defined by how big it is.. I don't pack unless requested to. I prefer to feel my cock rub against whatever garment I'm wearing. I dislike having the lil guy all mashed up against a piece of silicone.. That is *MY* relationship with my cock.

I am no less and no better then anyone else on this site. This is my FTM cock and I am proud of it.

Now, did I derail the thread? I hope not.. Discussion is always good. People need it. For me, I needed to post about my cock. The end and thankyouverymuch.

-Tony and his oh so awesome FTM cock.

DMW · 06-04-2012, 11:36 AM

Hear Hear...Tender Knight...Bravo...I am proud of my little pecker too.
It works for me and for my partner. I never heard any complaints.
Oh but, maybe some women weren't honest or worried about my ego.
Fortunately, my pecker doesn't rule my ego

and it is really...hear him...hear him

shiagirl · 06-04-2012, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TenderKnight

mmm.. Not that I don't love getting into long winded debates about intimacy issues and security issues and what the difference between butch and FTM cock..

BUT..

I was kinda just hoping to talk about my cock and how much I enjoy it.. When I say my cock I am talking about the equipment I was born with and that I am slowly starting to love again. I love it so much that I posted a picture of it on another adult themed site.. It is getting bigger now that I am on T and is actually starting to stick out a lil more.. I look down sometimes and say, "go lil guy, GO!".. well not out loud.. but yeah..

Maybe that is what one could say along the topic of security.. I feel secure enough in my manhood not to be defined by how big it is.. I don't pack unless requested to. I prefer to feel my cock rub against whatever garment I'm wearing. I dislike having the lil guy all mashed up against a piece of silicone.. That is *MY* relationship with my cock.

I am no less and no better then anyone else on this site. This is my FTM cock and I am proud of it.

Now, did I derail the thread? I hope not.. Discussion is always good. People need it. For me, I needed to post about my cock. The end and thankyouverymuch.

-Tony and his oh so awesome FTM cock.

girls mouth drops open!!!! I just love reading this thread.......tee hee.

Leigh · 06-04-2012, 02:10 PM

Both c*ck threads are awesome to read, and hazardous to the health

Maverick · 06-06-2012, 08:35 AM

Clay, I got your message and will get back to you later today with the details. Have to go to work right now and don't know all the answers at the moment. Have a great day.
Mav

TenderKnight · 06-07-2012, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Maverick

Clay, I got your message and will get back to you later today with the details. Have to go to work right now and don't know all the answers at the moment. Have a great day.
Mav

Hmmm. me thinks that Mav didn't really mean to post this here..

Maverick · 06-07-2012, 02:31 PM

Well not exactly no I didn't. Sorry about that. I need a gps for this planet.

TenderKnight · 06-12-2012, 12:39 PM

OK, so what about guys that have had bottom surgery?

Would love to hear from you guys too..

Julien · 06-14-2012, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kannon

In the end though, it's not really about the cock at all. It's about the person behind the cock.

I'm responding to this earlier quote because I think it is true and relevant to the discussion of the FTM C*ck. I am not taking T at this point in my life because of financial reasons. I pack and have a cock for sex (making love, fucking, intercourse what ever you feel comfortable with). It is an important aspect to who I am, but not so important that having a cock undercuts who I am as a person. It is my hope that the woman I'm with would want me because of who I am and not the cock I have. When we are intimate, it is with the entire being of who we are, I make love with my entire body, mind and spirit. Yes I am a romantic and yes I also believe in fucking, but I want that committed relationship and what that has to offer. I see my cock as an aspect of me the total person, not as a separate item. I don't know if that would change if I was taking T, since I've not had the experience. I would feel strange if the core of my relationship with someone was "cock centered" and not person centered. I think it devalues the person who wears it and the woman who is penetrated by it. I hope that I've not stepped on anyone's toes, it just my thoughts on the subject.

Kent · 09-08-2012, 09:54 PM

Hangs right.. Right where I want it...

lusciouskiwi · 09-08-2012, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kent

Hangs right.. Right where I want it...

Kent, shouldn't that be where your darling wants it?

Leigh · 09-08-2012, 10:33 PM

Glad the thread is still alive & well

05-23-2012, 07:15 PM	#26
chefhmboyrd Senior Member How Do You Identify?: man Preferred Pronoun?: beef Relationship Status: Uncle Daddy Snap Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: nashvegas Posts: 1,606 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 2,411 Thanked 2,845 Times in 898 Posts Rep Power: 14057154	BUMP!!! i think the discussion about safety can cover so many difference perspectives. whether you are butch, femme, stone, ftm, mtf, genderqueer, intersexed, cis, or gender fluid. It boils down to trust. do i trust this person with my most vulnerable moments, to completely submit to them and open myself to them? are you going to allow them to penetrate you physically, mentally, spiritually, metaphorically, partially, or completely? can you count on this person to use discretion, and not tell your innermost passions to others, or use them against you in the future? do i feel safe with this person? @ __________________ what's a cowboy got to do to get a drink around here?

06-03-2012, 07:16 PM	#29
TenderKnight Member How Do You Identify?: Kinky Poly Transman Preferred Pronoun?: He Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Monroe, NC Posts: 551 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 773 Thanked 822 Times in 256 Posts Rep Power: 2402407	mmm.. Not that I don't love getting into long winded debates about intimacy issues and security issues and what the difference between butch and FTM cock.. BUT.. I was kinda just hoping to talk about my cock and how much I enjoy it.. When I say my cock I am talking about the equipment I was born with and that I am slowly starting to love again. I love it so much that I posted a picture of it on another adult themed site.. It is getting bigger now that I am on T and is actually starting to stick out a lil more.. I look down sometimes and say, "go lil guy, GO!".. well not out loud.. but yeah.. Maybe that is what one could say along the topic of security.. I feel secure enough in my manhood not to be defined by how big it is.. I don't pack unless requested to. I prefer to feel my cock rub against whatever garment I'm wearing. I dislike having the lil guy all mashed up against a piece of silicone.. That is MY relationship with my cock. I am no less and no better then anyone else on this site. This is my FTM cock and I am proud of it. Now, did I derail the thread? I hope not.. Discussion is always good. People need it. For me, I needed to post about my cock. The end and thankyouverymuch. -Tony and his oh so awesome FTM cock. __________________ The beatings shall continue.. until moral improves..

06-04-2012, 11:36 AM	#30
DMW Member How Do You Identify?: FTM/Male (Will 14) Relationship Status: Caught An Angel and she doesn't lie! Join Date: May 2012 Location: @ Posts: 784 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 2,256 Thanked 1,861 Times in 614 Posts Rep Power: 21474848	Hear Hear...Tender Knight...Bravo...I am proud of my little pecker too. It works for me and for my partner. I never heard any complaints. Oh but, maybe some women weren't honest or worried about my ego. Fortunately, my pecker doesn't rule my ego and it is really...hear him...hear him Last edited by DMW; 06-04-2012 at 11:45 AM. Reason: my misspelling

06-04-2012, 02:10 PM	#32
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06-12-2012, 12:39 PM	#36
TenderKnight Member How Do You Identify?: Kinky Poly Transman Preferred Pronoun?: He Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Monroe, NC Posts: 551 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 773 Thanked 822 Times in 256 Posts Rep Power: 2402407	OK, so what about guys that have had bottom surgery? Would love to hear from you guys too.. __________________ The beatings shall continue.. until moral improves..

05-23-2012, 10:07 PM	#27
Nadeest Member How Do You Identify?: as myself Preferred Pronoun?: She Relationship Status: Single Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Leesburg, FL Posts: 595 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 2,876 Thanked 2,118 Times in 501 Posts Rep Power: 17077996	I can say, as a preop tranwoman, that we vary, just as much as any other group does. Some do enjoy using their 'Original Equipment' while they have it, and for others, it is a complete turnoff. I have heard of some that prefer using a strapon, though I am certainly not one of them. For me, using my 'original equipment' or a strapon triggers my dysphoria, and would be very uncomfortable. Others, however, are different.

06-03-2012, 01:42 PM	#28
Ginger Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Femme lesbian Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: East coast Posts: 2,416 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 5,829 Thanked 12,309 Times in 2,057 Posts Rep Power: 21474851	So far, from reading these posts, I'm understanding that the difference between FTM and butch cock is that one is a response to gender dysphoria and one is a response to female-bodied sexual expression—or maybe that's a misread or incomplete reading. (And so far, no one is talking about surgically constructed FTM cock, so that's not in the analysis; I'm just mentioning that to be clear that when I say FTM cock I'm talking about strapped on cock.) My question is, what is different, and what is the same, in the relationship an FTM or butch might have with his/her/hyr cock? Thank you, anyone who responds. I think you're all great, btw.

06-06-2012, 08:35 AM	#33
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06-07-2012, 02:31 PM	#35
Maverick Junior Member How Do You Identify?: Transman Preferred Pronoun?: they/them Relationship Status: encumbered Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: eastern US Posts: 48 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 361 Thanked 179 Times in 34 Posts Rep Power: 1216947	Well not exactly no I didn't. Sorry about that. I need a gps for this planet.

09-08-2012, 09:54 PM	#38
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09-08-2012, 10:33 PM	#40
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