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[Apocalipstic]

Originally Posted by cinderella

correction - my post #194
I confused Northside 777 with The Front Page, my apologies.

In Northside 777 the magnification and enhancement of the front page of a newspaper to reveal a date (instrumental in proving the defendant's innocense, and thereby acquiting him), was such a major and important aspect of this film, that I always confuse the title and think of it as The Front Page, which is another movie entirely.

I actually saw The Front Page at the theatre in Buenos Aires when it came out. I really enjoy Billy Wilder films too.

Opposite of Altman, very controlled.

[cinderella]

HEADS UP ALL WWII AFFICIONADOS!!

Starting on Sunday, March 27 (not sure of the time, check your local schedules), HBO will present a 10-part mini-series: The Pacific. It is all about the Pacific theatre, and all the incidents pertaining to it.
It is a joint-production effort between Tom Hanks and Steven Spielberg. Those of you who are fans of WWII history, will love this. Just thought you might want to know.

[Apocalipstic]

Originally Posted by cinderella

HEADS UP ALL WWII AFFICIONADOS!!

Starting on Sunday, March 27 (not sure of the time, check your local schedules), HBO will present a 10-part mini-series: The Pacific. It is all about the Pacific theatre, and all the incidents pertaining to it.
It is a joint-production effort between Tom Hanks and Steven Spielberg. Those of you who are fans of WWII history, will love this. Just thought you might want to know.

Thank you! That's so cool! Can't wait.

[cinderella]

I don't know why I used to term 'Gothic' because it really isn't. And only 'Noirish' in the black & white cinematography...but as you said, if plot isn't a primary concern, you will love this film for the atmospheric ambiance, the sets and the costumes. I too love and appreciate all these things about film - I am always checking out who the set and costume designers are in a film. However, unlike you, I want a good plot as well - it has to hold my interest, otherwise all the other accoutrements are not enough to satisfy me. But when a film has all these aspects - wow!! what an experience to engage most of the senses!!

I'm curious...why does Louis Jordan crack you up? He has never done anything comedic to my knowledge, unless I've missed some of his movies. He was more the leading man - he was extremely handsome. Did you see him in his debut film 'The Paradine Case' (1947)? An Alfred Hitchcock film, starring Gregogy Peck, Ann Todd, Charles Laughton, Ethel Barrymore, Leo G. Carroll, Louis Jordan, and as Mrs. Paradine - the elusive Italian beauty Alida Valli - better known as just 'Alida'. Great film. If you haven't seen it, try and do. As usual, if it's a Hitchcock film, you can't go wrong.

Originally Posted by apocalipstic

Will have to check it out! Thank you! I usually don't do chick flicks, but if its Gothic and Noirish count me in!

I care more about the cinematography, sets, acting than I do the actual plot. The plot is secondary for me. Probably why I like Altman so much.

Louis Jordan cracks me UP!

[Jet]

Originally Posted by cinderella

I don't know why I used to term 'Gothic' because it really isn't. And only 'Noirish' in the black & white cinematography...but as you said, if plot isn't a primary concern, you will love this film for the atmospheric ambiance, the sets and the costumes. I too love and appreciate all these things about film - I am always checking out who the set and costume designers are in a film. However, unlike you, I want a good plot as well - it has to hold my interest, otherwise all the other accoutrements are not enough to satisfy me. But when a film has all these aspects - wow!! what an experience to engage most of the senses!!

I'm curious...why does Louis Jordan crack you up? He has never done anything comedic to my knowledge, unless I've missed some of his movies. He was more the leading man - he was extremely handsome. Did you see him in his debut film 'The Paradine Case' (1947)? An Alfred Hitchcock film, starring Gregogy Peck, Ann Todd, Charles Laughton, Ethel Barrymore, Leo G. Carroll, Louis Jordan, and as Mrs. Paradine - the elusive Italian beauty Alida Valli - better known as just 'Alida'. Great film. If you haven't seen it, try and do. As usual, if it's a Hitchcock film, you can't go wrong.

No honey, she's known as just Valli She didn't do a lot i know. Paradine Case is one of my favorites, too. I guess you know that.

Robert Altman did different things. I'm not really a fan, sort of like Stanley Kramer. They both did good things, I'm just not a real big fan of most of their things. See ya at the movies, comrades...

[Apocalipstic]

Originally Posted by cinderella

I don't know why I used to term 'Gothic' because it really isn't. And only 'Noirish' in the black & white cinematography...but as you said, if plot isn't a primary concern, you will love this film for the atmospheric ambiance, the sets and the costumes. I too love and appreciate all these things about film - I am always checking out who the set and costume designers are in a film. However, unlike you, I want a good plot as well - it has to hold my interest, otherwise all the other accoutrements are not enough to satisfy me. But when a film has all these aspects - wow!! what an experience to engage most of the senses!!

I'm curious...why does Louis Jordan crack you up? He has never done anything comedic to my knowledge, unless I've missed some of his movies. He was more the leading man - he was extremely handsome. Did you see him in his debut film 'The Paradine Case' (1947)? An Alfred Hitchcock film, starring Gregogy Peck, Ann Todd, Charles Laughton, Ethel Barrymore, Leo G. Carroll, Louis Jordan, and as Mrs. Paradine - the elusive Italian beauty Alida Valli - better known as just 'Alida'. Great film. If you haven't seen it, try and do. As usual, if it's a Hitchcock film, you can't go wrong.

Atmospheric ambiance! I am there.

I do care about the plot, but it is not my main thing. I look at it from more of a Director and sometimes Producer angle....or as art.

I'm a huge Hitchcock fan, I studied him in college too.

Jordan? I don't know, maybe his facial expressions seem exagerated for me. When I see him, I can't help but giggle.

Originally Posted by Ol' Jet

No honey, she's known as just Valli She didn't do a lot i know. Paradine Case is one of my favorites, too. I guess you know that.

Robert Altman did different things. I'm not really a fan, sort of like Stanley Kramer. They both did good things, I'm just not a real big fan of most of their things. See ya at the movies, comrades...

I like how Altman controlled every detail of the set, but let the actors do whatever...exactly the opposite of Hitchcock or Billy Wilder.

and...

Comrades makes me smile.

[Jet]

Originally Posted by apocalipstic

Atmospheric ambiance! I am there.

I do care about the plot, but it is not my main thing. I look at it from more of a Director and sometimes Producer angle....or as art.

I'm a huge Hitchcock fan, I studied him in college too.

Jordan? I don't know, maybe his facial expressions seem exagerated for me. When I see him, I can't help but giggle.




I like how Altman controlled every detail of the set, but let the actors do whatever...exactly the opposite of Hitchcock or Billy Wilder.

and...

Comrades makes me smile.

You know, actually Cecile DeMille was the same way. He was known for epics and controlled his story. But he expected actors to know what they were doing, so he was known not to really direct the acting.

[Apocalipstic]

Originally Posted by Ol' Jet

You know, actually Cecile DeMille was the same way. He was known for epics and controlled his story. But he expected actors to know what they were doing, so he was known not to really direct the acting.

I have not watched anything of his since college and I did not really study him. Perhaps this Spring.

[cinderella]

You're absolutely right, snookums!! It was 'Valli' - my thinking is getting dyslexic in my old age! Thanks for correcting me. I also love The Paradine Case - there's just something about that film...can't put my finger on it - the music, the sets, Peck's facination with Valli...I don't know, but I always watch it when it's on. I have a copy of it on tape, but it's not a very good one. If it's on dvd, I may just buy it. I'll check Amazon.com, I get most of my dvd 'deals' on there. I've got to re-purchase Brief Encounter (you know that's my favorite film, Ol' Jet). The copy I had cracked.

I'm with you on Kubric - I always disliked 2001: A Space Odyssy, and never understood what all the hoopla was about...I quite never 'got it'.

As for Altman, I'm not sure I know his films...

Originally Posted by Ol' Jet

No honey, she's known as just Valli She didn't do a lot i know. Paradine Case is one of my favorites, too. I guess you know that.

Robert Altman did different things. I'm not really a fan, sort of like Stanley Kramer. They both did good things, I'm just not a real big fan of most of their things. See ya at the movies, comrades...

[cinderella]

Giggle? That's so odd...oh well. Whenever I see him, I swoon!
John Saxon had the same affect on me, tho he never did anything of great importance that I can remember. Oh, and Hawaiian-born James Shigeta - of Japanese ancestry - (Bride to the Sun - 1961) what a beautiful man! I guess I lean toward the 'dark & handsome' types, huh? Ok, now I'm rambling, lol

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Jordan? I don't know, maybe his facial expressions seem exagerated for me. When I see him, I can't help but giggle.
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[cinderella]

Has anyone read The Alienist by Caleb Carr? What a fabulous movie that would make, and I'm wondering why someone hasn't 'jumped' on that one!! It's the story of an 'alienist' (old term for psychiatrist/psychoanalyst), and how he forms a band of 'sleuths' to investigate, track down, and capture the first known serial killer in old circa 1880's New York City. It is a facsinating and riviting tale, and if well executed, I think would be a block-buster. I am tempted to write Scorsese - it's just his kind of story!! He has the finnese (see The Age of Innocence), and the violent grittiness (see Raging Bull) to pull it off magnificently!!!

I would love to hear your comments/impressions of this story if you've read the book, and if you were casting it, who you'd pick - I personally see Daniel Day Lewis, or perhaps Jerramy Irons as Lazslo Krietzler (the alienist). If you haven't read this, you should - you will never forget it. It is a grizly and gritty tale that is a sure page-turner - you won't be able to put it down!! Young boy prostitute's dismembered bodies are turning up all over the city, and the police don't have a clue as to how to start solving these crimes. Steps in Dr. Krietzler and his unorthodox methods of solving the crimes - first indication of forensic science and it's methodology.

[cinderella]

On TCM Tonight - all times EST

5:30pm - On the Beach: Gregory Peck, Ava Gardner, Fred Astair, Anthony Perkins

8:00pm - A Streetcar Named Desire

10:15: Somebody Up There Likes Me

For the Nightowls

12:15am - Saturday Night Fever (yet again!! *groan*)

2:30am - Blackboard Jungle

4:15am - The Killers: Burt Lancaster, Ava Gardner

[Martina]

Originally Posted by cinderella

HEADS UP ALL WWII AFFICIONADOS!!

Starting on Sunday, March 27 (not sure of the time, check your local schedules), HBO will present a 10-part mini-series: The Pacific. It is all about the Pacific theatre, and all the incidents pertaining to it.
It is a joint-production effort between Tom Hanks and Steven Spielberg. Those of you who are fans of WWII history, will love this. Just thought you might want to know.

Thanks!! i didn't know that. i will check it out. i just read an article in The New Yorker about a journalist who covered the B-29 firebombing raids of Japan that preceded the nuclear strike. i had never heard about them. It was fascinating stuff. It also makes you think that the nuclear strike was not necessary if these runs could wreak this much damage.

[Jet]

[quote=cinderella;61708]Giggle? That's so odd...oh well. Whenever I see him, I swoon!
John Saxon had the same affect on me, tho he never did anything of great importance that I can remember. Oh, and Hawaiian-born James Shigeta - of Japanese ancestry - (Bride to the Sun - 1961) what a beautiful man! I guess I lean toward the 'dark & handsome' types, huh? Ok, now I'm rambling, lol

Originally Posted by apocalipstic

Jordan? I don't know, maybe his facial expressions seem exagerated for me. When I see him, I can't help but giggle.
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they have the same effect on me being the gay man that i am, giggle. maybe we can talk shoes sometime, carmen. we'll do lunch. my pic is john gavin out of those hunky 50s types.

[Martina]

Originally Posted by cinderella

I'm curious...why does Louis Jordan crack you up? He has never done anything comedic to my knowledge, unless I've missed some of his movies. He was more the leading man - he was extremely handsome.

Louis Jordan actually cracks me up. He reminds me of Pepe LePew.

i am just catching up on this thread. But i am not a noir fan. i love the melodramas. Some of them are NOT good films, but i love them all.

Giant -- it really is a melodrama
All That Heaven Allows
Written on the Wind
Magnificent Obsession
All About Eve
The Best Years of Our Lives
Black Narcissus
The Long, Hot Summer

[Jet]

Originally Posted by Martina

Louis Jordan actually cracks me up. He reminds me of Pepe LePew.

i am just catching up on this thread. But i am not a noir fan. i love the melodramas. Some of them are NOT good films, but i love them all.

Giant -- it really is a melodrama
All That Heaven Allows
Written on the Wind
Magnificent Obsession
All About Eve
The Best Years of Our Lives
Black Narcissus
The Long, Hot Summer

the best years of our lives in NOT a melodrama. it's a post war docu-drama by Wyler who did it as an account of the plight of returning servicemen and a changing America at the time. there's nothig melodramatic about it. it's also my favorite movie of all time and one of the best ever made IMO with 9 Oscars in 1946.

[Julien]

Originally Posted by Ol' Jet

the best years of our lives in NOT a melodrama. it's a post war docu-drama by Wyler who did it as an account of the plight of returning servicemen and a changing America at the time. there's nothig melodramatic about it. it's also my favorite movie of all time and one of the best ever made IMO with 9 Oscars in 1946.

I agree, The Best Years of Our Lives is an excellent film. I use it in my Film Studies classes for a discussion of women's lives during WWII.

[Jet]

Originally Posted by Graphiteta2s

I agree, The Best Years of Our Lives is an excellent film. I use it in my Film Studies classes for a discussion of women's lives during WWII.

I have always loved its unpretentiousness in its characters and story. It's an honest account of the times and a no frills approach to the subject matter. To me, it's about men, soldiers and their point of view. As a transgendered man, I get that and I like that a lot.

[Martina]

Originally Posted by Ol' Jet

the best years of our lives in NOT a melodrama. it's a post war docu-drama by Wyler who did it as an account of the plight of returning servicemen and a changing America at the time. there's nothig melodramatic about it. it's also my favorite movie of all time and one of the best ever made IMO with 9 Oscars in 1946.

google melodrama and the title. You'll see a lot of people refer to it this way. Melodramas don't have to be weepies or have to portray exaggerated emotion or be full of stereotyped characters. They usually are sentimental. They are about relationships and emotions generally. They often focus on domestic life or work relationships. And there is often a social critique element. They CAN be realistic.

[Julien]

Originally Posted by cinderella

Has anyone read The Alienist by Caleb Carr? What a fabulous movie that would make, and I'm wondering why someone hasn't 'jumped' on that one!! It's the story of an 'alienist' (old term for psychiatrist/psychoanalyst), and how he forms a band of 'sleuths' to investigate, track down, and capture the first known serial killer in old circa 1880's New York City. It is a facsinating and riviting tale, and if well executed, I think would be a block-buster. I am tempted to write Scorsese - it's just his kind of story!! He has the finnese (see The Age of Innocence), and the violent grittiness (see Raging Bull) to pull it off magnificently!!!

I would love to hear your comments/impressions of this story if you've read the book, and if you were casting it, who you'd pick - I personally see Daniel Day Lewis, or perhaps Jerramy Irons as Lazslo Krietzler (the alienist). If you haven't read this, you should - you will never forget it. It is a grizly and gritty tale that is a sure page-turner - you won't be able to put it down!! Young boy prostitute's dismembered bodies are turning up all over the city, and the police don't have a clue as to how to start solving these crimes. Steps in Dr. Krietzler and his unorthodox methods of solving the crimes - first indication of forensic science and it's methodology.

The Alienist good book. Although I read it years ago, I still remember the storyline and great writing. I think it would be a good film. As for the leads, I'd have to reread it to get a sense of who could be in it. Thanks for reminding me of the book, I'll have to pick it up again.