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Old 02-22-2017, 07:34 PM   #601
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I just received a notice. It was rescinded. First Jeff Sessiona said he would just not push back if any state had a problem with the Obamas "order", but now it has been rescinded.

Our trans kids will be going back to getting bladder infections because they have no where to use the bathroom all day.

Yes, we have done studies on this kind of thing.... higher incidence of bladder infections in trans people, especially trans kids. Nice, huh?

Well, some school administrations, teachers, and parents will be pleased as punch to hear the news.
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I just received a notice. It was rescinded. First Jeff Sessiona said he would just not push back if any state had a problem with the Obamas "order", but now it has been rescinded.

Our trans kids will be going back to getting bladder infections because they have no where to use the bathroom all day.

Yes, we have done studies on this kind of thing.... higher incidence of bladder infections in trans people, especially trans kids. Nice, huh?

Well, some school administrations, teachers, and parents will be pleased as punch to hear the news.
Well, today she did. Just now she talked about them rolling back protections for trans youth in schools. I am very happy that she highlighted this. She pointed out that President Trump said he would not do anything against LGBT folks and said that this was a sign of him starting. She made some reference to it being lovely (but that isn't the word she used), that he "started with kids'.
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There is no way around the fact that the trans boy has an advantage because he is taking testosterone. If he was not taking testosterone, than he would not have an advantage.

The issue is hormones, not how one identifies when it comes to fair competition.

The positive about this happening, is that when the parents become upset that their daughters' competitor has an unfair advantage, the rule will change in Texas and transitioning boys will wrestle on the male team (and hopefully, trans girls who are taking testosterone blockers will play on the girls teams). When this happens it will be fair for all the kids.

I think it is nice that a "resident of Austin" and one of the cis girls said they welcoming of him playing with the girls, but it just simply isn't fair. It isn't good for anyone.

Thanks for posting this.
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He won the girls state title by the way.
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He won the girls state title by the way.
So, you posted it, but you didn't share your opinion on the article/situation. What is your opinion?
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Sorry I came home kinda tipsy from the bar, when I posted. I think it's an unfair advantage for him to wrestle against girls, but I'm glad to see a trans kid win state titles yet it should have been against his fellow guys.

Only thing that can happen now is that he can change the stigma about trans people and possibly change the law.
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A school board outside of Wichita, Kansas, voted this week to ban transgender students from bathrooms that match their gender identity, saying they took license for the new rule from the Trump administration. “Trump was basically leaving it up to us,” Tina Prunier, a member of the Derby Board of Education, told BuzzFeed News in explaining her vote in favor of the rule. “I thought it would be best for the district overall.”

But lawyers for progressive LGBT groups countered that regardless of the federal government’s position, private citizens can still sue the district if a transgender student comes forward with a complaint. “We are standing ready to file lawsuits against school districts like this one that are discriminating against transgender students,” Demoya Gordon, a staff attorney for Lambda Legal, told BuzzFeed News. “There is no staying out of this issue. This is a federal civil-rights issue. This district has exposed itself to a lawsuit.”

To get context for the school board’s vote on Monday, you must rewind to last year. At the time, the district had the same ban on transgender student restroom access it adopted this week — for example, transgender girls couldn’t use the girls restroom.

But in May 2016, the Obama administration announced that all federally funded schools must accommodate transgender students in facilities that match their gender identity. That guidance was based on an interpretation of Title IX, a civil rights law that bans sex discrimination in schools. The Derby Board of Education, in turn, voted to conform to that federal policy — leading some parents to complain.

Cut to 2017: The Trump administration last week withdrew the Obama-era rule, saying that states and local jurisdictions could decide for themselves.
Many states and district decided to keep their trangender-friendly rules in place. But the Derby Board of Education voted 5-2 this week to go back to their original procedure for transgender students. They voted on how they would handle the matter — to ban transgender students from restrooms that match their gender and attempt to offer them other accommodations — even though it was not codified in a written document.

In an interview, Prunier had a hard time explaining her vote to block transgender students from certain restrooms, other than saying that Trump allowed the district to do so, and that it was the district’s best interest.
“To be quite honest, it’s not something I have gone over in my mind,” she replied when asked why she said it was best for her district. “It’s not something I feel strongly one way or another about — their personal rights or how they wish to be.”con't...
https://www.buzzfeed.com/dominichold...epY#.syX1b5KNE

I truly hope that Prunier reads this article she is quoted in, especially the part I bolded, and does some serious thinking/soul searching. I also hope that one of the students does come forth and sue in order to have their rights reestablished. It sucks big time that we are still having to fight tooth and nail to be granted simple human dignities that most others take for granted! I'm so pissed right now!
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Supreme Court sends Grimm transgender case back to lower court in light of new federal guidance

The U.S. Supreme Court is sending the case of 17-year-old Gavin Grimm back to the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals after President Donald Trump overturned a federal policy on transgender students' access to school restrooms.

The high court announced its decision to vacate the case and remand it back to the lower court on Monday along with several other orders from its Friday conference last week, according to the SCOTUS blog, a law blog written by attorneys who follow the Supreme Court closely.

The U.S. Supreme Court was scheduled to hear oral arguments in the case on March 28.

“Nothing about today’s action changes the meaning of the law. Title IX and the Constitution protect Gavin and other transgender students from discrimination,” said attorney Joshuan Block with the American Civil Liberties Union, which represents Grimm in the case against the Gloucester County School Board.

“While we’re disappointed that the Supreme Court will not be hearing Gavin’s case this term, the overwhelming level of support shown for Gavin and trans students by people across the country throughout this process shows that the American people have already moved in the right direction and that the rights of trans people cannot be ignored,” Block said in a news release from the ACLU. “This is a detour, not the end of the road, and we’ll continue to fight for Gavin and other transgender people to ensure that they are treated with the dignity and respect they deserve.”

On Feb. 22 the Trump Administration withdrew previous federal guidance that said school divisions must allow transgender students to use the bathroom matching their gender identity.

The court requested letters from both sides of the case in light of the Trump administration’s new guidance, which now leaves it up to states and local school divisions to establish policies regarding transgender restroom use.

The ACLU and the Gloucester County School Board asked the court to let the case proceed. The School Board also asked that the case be postponed to allow the federal government to file a brief.

The 4th Circuit Court of Appeals in Richmond relied on the previous guidance from the Obama administration when it voted 2-1 in 2016 in Grimm’s favor to send the case back to federal Judge Robert Doumar with the U.S. Eastern District Court, telling him to reconsider the case.

In fall 2015, Doumar dismissed the claim in the suit that the school division’s restroom-use policy passed in December 2014 that requires students to use the restroom associated with their physical sex or single-stall private unisex restrooms violated Title IX. Doumar did not rule on the 14th Amendment claim in the lawsuit.

In a statement on Monday the Gloucester County School Board said, “the Board looks forward to explaining why its commonsense restroom and locker room policy is legal under the Constitution and federal law.”

Gloucester schools filed a petition last August asking the Supreme Court to determine if it is violating federal law by refusing to allow Grimm access to the boys’ restrooms. In addition to the question about the Title IX interpretation, the petition also questioned the previous guidance issued under the Obama administration.

Grimm, a senior at Gloucester High School, was born female but identifies as male. The lawsuit, filed on his behalf by the ACLU, would have been the first transgender restroom rights case to reach the U.S. Supreme Court.

http://www.dailypress.com/news/glouc...306-story.html
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You know, Jesse, it is now something every day. Every few days there is a new reversal of state policy or new state discrimination policy. It doesn't even feel like news anymore.

Sad.

I am lucky as hell to live in the Northeast.

I knew they would come after us trans folks, first, and fast. We are the easiest to pick on. Easier than any other minority group.



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The U.S. Supreme Court is sending the case of 17-year-old Gavin Grimm back to the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals after President Donald Trump overturned a federal policy on transgender students' access to school restrooms.

The high court announced its decision to vacate the case and remand it back to the lower court on Monday along with several other orders from its Friday conference last week, according to the SCOTUS blog, a law blog written by attorneys who follow the Supreme Court closely.

The U.S. Supreme Court was scheduled to hear oral arguments in the case on March 28.

“Nothing about today’s action changes the meaning of the law. Title IX and the Constitution protect Gavin and other transgender students from discrimination,” said attorney Joshuan Block with the American Civil Liberties Union, which represents Grimm in the case against the Gloucester County School Board.

“While we’re disappointed that the Supreme Court will not be hearing Gavin’s case this term, the overwhelming level of support shown for Gavin and trans students by people across the country throughout this process shows that the American people have already moved in the right direction and that the rights of trans people cannot be ignored,” Block said in a news release from the ACLU. “This is a detour, not the end of the road, and we’ll continue to fight for Gavin and other transgender people to ensure that they are treated with the dignity and respect they deserve.”

On Feb. 22 the Trump Administration withdrew previous federal guidance that said school divisions must allow transgender students to use the bathroom matching their gender identity.

The court requested letters from both sides of the case in light of the Trump administration’s new guidance, which now leaves it up to states and local school divisions to establish policies regarding transgender restroom use.

The ACLU and the Gloucester County School Board asked the court to let the case proceed. The School Board also asked that the case be postponed to allow the federal government to file a brief.

The 4th Circuit Court of Appeals in Richmond relied on the previous guidance from the Obama administration when it voted 2-1 in 2016 in Grimm’s favor to send the case back to federal Judge Robert Doumar with the U.S. Eastern District Court, telling him to reconsider the case.

In fall 2015, Doumar dismissed the claim in the suit that the school division’s restroom-use policy passed in December 2014 that requires students to use the restroom associated with their physical sex or single-stall private unisex restrooms violated Title IX. Doumar did not rule on the 14th Amendment claim in the lawsuit.

In a statement on Monday the Gloucester County School Board said, “the Board looks forward to explaining why its commonsense restroom and locker room policy is legal under the Constitution and federal law.”

Gloucester schools filed a petition last August asking the Supreme Court to determine if it is violating federal law by refusing to allow Grimm access to the boys’ restrooms. In addition to the question about the Title IX interpretation, the petition also questioned the previous guidance issued under the Obama administration.

Grimm, a senior at Gloucester High School, was born female but identifies as male. The lawsuit, filed on his behalf by the ACLU, would have been the first transgender restroom rights case to reach the U.S. Supreme Court.

http://www.dailypress.com/news/glouc...306-story.html
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Right they want people to use the bathroom that matches their birth certificate. Their assumption is that our birth certificates always match our genitals.

But, since Texas doesn't allow new birth certificates after gender reassignment surgery, if the "rules" are followed, a trans man with a penis will still have to use the women's room. A trans woman with a vagina will have to use the men's room. So guess what? People's genitals do not always match their birth cert (and of course intersex individuals are completely ignored in this).
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Yeah, what are intersex folks to do...just hold it? Maybe protest by "going" in the hallway between the doors!

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Dem Senators (including Franken and Warren), write Devos asking for an explanation as to why she said states no longer had to allow students to use the bathroom consistent with their gender identity.

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Caitlin Jenner gets gender reassignment surgery.

http://www.washingtonblade.com/2017/...nment-surgery/

It annoys me that she says that "part of her decision to undergo surgery was due to probing questions from the public about her genitals." Give me a fucking break. Internalized transphobia at it's best. Nobody get GRS because they don't want to be asked a question anymore.

Maybe I shouldn't say "like we didn't know this would happen", because certainly there are some trans women who actually like their penises, but it was pretty obvious to me that Caitlin wasn't one of them (even though she said she wasn't going to get surgery).

Of course, I am curious as to who her surgeon was, just like I am about her facial feminization surgery. She really does a good job sneaking around to offices and hospitals. You have to be in the hospital for 4-5 days after vaginoplasty and then stay very close by to your surgeon's office for the next 7 days. Maybe she got some surgical set up at home afterwards.
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MAY 21 2017, 6:14 PM ET

Colorado Man Arrested After Botching Unlicensed Surgery on Transgender Woman

by PHIL MCCAUSLAND


A Colorado man faces felony assault charges for using an Army surgical kit to remove a transgender woman's testicles without a medical license, according to police records.

Members of the Denver Police Department arrested James Lowell Pennington on Thursday, a day after the botched surgery, after he confessed to the incident.

Pennington admitted to investigators that he performed the procedure using an Army medical kit that contained a scalpel, lidocaine, medical dressings as well as other minor medical equipment, according to the police report.

He used the scalpel "and surgically disconnected and removed the victim's [two] testicles and then sutured the opening back up," the report said.

James Lowell Pennington was arrested May 18, 2017, on suspicion of first-degree assault causing serious bodily injury for using an Army medical kit to castrate a transgender woman without a medical license in a 90-minute procedure performed at the woman's apartment. Denver Police via AP

The report says that the entire surgery took 90 minutes and Pennington told the transgender woman to call 911 if any complications developed.

A few hours later the victim's wife attempted to change the dressing on the suture and "a large amount of blood poured out of the incision." They then called 911.

According to the report, "the testicles could not be re-attached due to time delay of procedure to 911 call."

In a letter obtained by NBC News affiliate KUSA, the unidentified transgender woman wrote that she did not consider herself a victim of Pennington.

"I am not a victim of 57 year old James Lowell Pennington who is the suspect in this case," the woman wrote, identifying herself as Jane Doe. "I am a victim of a society and healthcare system that focuses on trying to demonize transgender people and prevent us from getting the medical transition we need instead of trying to do what is best for us. Arranging a back-alley surgery was out of pure desperation due to a system that failed me."

According to the Transgender Law Center, private health insurance companies do not cover these types of procedures, which can cost between $7,000 and $50,000. The center also notes that many transgender people do not have any form of health insurance anyway. It points to San Francisco as its example, a transgender-friendly city in which 51 percent of its transgender residents don't have health coverage.

At the end of her letter, the transgender woman warned that she may not be the last example of this kind of botched procedure.

"As long as this system continues in its present form there will continue to be events like this," Doe said at the end of her letter. "Until this system is fixed and transgender people are encouraged and able to get the care we need, there will always be cases like me."

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Caitlin Jenner gets gender reassignment surgery.

http://www.washingtonblade.com/2017/...nment-surgery/

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It annoys me that she says that "part of her decision to undergo surgery was due to probing questions from the public about her genitals." Give me a fucking break. Internalized transphobia at it's best. Nobody get GRS because they don't want to be asked a question anymore.

Of course, I am curious as to who her surgeon was, just like I am about her facial feminization surgery. She really does a good job sneaking around to offices and hospitals. You have to be in the hospital for 4-5 days after vaginoplasty and then stay very close by to your surgeon's office for the next 7 days. Maybe she got some surgical set up at home afterwards.

I liked the questions you posed around GRS because the article I found about what happened to the Transgender Woman in Colorado (Jane Doe) clearly presented the argument on the way a person either has to have access to the best insurance in the world and access to proportionate income in order to hurdle the process of getting competent licensed medical care for gender reassignment surgery. Jane Doe stated that lack of money and qualified health insurance coverage is probably the number one reason why GRS is so hard to obtain, for members who need it but can't get it.
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I liked the questions you posed around GRS because the article I found about what happened to the Transgender Woman in Colorado (Jane Doe) clearly presented the argument on the way a person either has to have access to the best insurance in the world and access to proportionate income in order to hurdle the process of getting competent licensed medical care for gender reassignment surgery. Jane Doe stated that lack of money and qualified health insurance coverage is probably the number one reason why GRS is so hard to obtain, for members who need it but can't get it.
Yes, trans men and trans women will do a number of unsafe things in an attempt to get relief. There is a lot of purchasing of illegal hormones, for example. This is because they can't get care due to lack of insurance. Plus, of course, bigotry. 41% of trans people attempt suicide.
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The country’s largest medical organization is protecting transgender people from ‘bathroom bills’

The American Medical Association supports trans people being themselves throughout society.

The 2017 AMA House of Delegates meeting.

This week, the American Medical Association (AMA), the country’s largest medical organization, took several actions to solidify their defense of transgender people. This included a resolution opposing any policy or legislation — like “bathroom bills” put forth in North Carolina and Texas — that prohibits transgender people from living according to their gender identity throughout society.

During its annual meeting in Chicago this week, the AMA House of Delegates approved a resolution favoring “Access to Basic Human Services for Transgender Individuals.” As drafted, the resolution notes that laws that restrict which facilities transgender people can use “place undue harm on the physical and social well-being and safety of transgender individuals.” It also highlights the way that transgender minors “are at particular risk of social, mental, and physical detriment by being forced to disregard their gender identity or to publicly identify as transgender due to these policies.”

Thus, the AMA officially opposes “policies preventing transgender individuals from accessing basic human services and public facilities in line with one’s gender identity, including, but not limited to, the use of restrooms.”

The resolution also calls for the creation of additional policies that “promote social equality and safe access to basic human services and public facilities for transgender individuals according to one’s gender identity.”

The AMA has publicly supported trans-affirming medical care for nearly a decade, and in 2015, it also called for allowing transgender people to serve in the military.

Last week, Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) called a special session of the legislature for July, ordering lawmakers to take up legislation that failed to pass during the regular session that would mandate discrimination against transgender people.

Such legislation now flies in the face of the country’s largest organization of medical professionals.

Inside the rotten repeal of HB2

HB2 is dead, but its anti-LGBT legacy lives on in North Carolina.

The resolution opposing “bathroom bills” was one of only several actions the AMA took to support transgender people.

Another resolution passed by the AMA’s House of Delegates called on the organization to improve public education about the “medical spectrum of gender identity.” According to an AMA News post, this resolution was necessary because gender is “incompletely understood as a binary selection.”

In other words, the medical community will do more to support people who identify as genderqueer or gender nonbinary and to raise awareness that a person’s gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, and sex can all vary from each other.

A third resolution called upon the Food & Drug Administration to develop a gender-neutral patient categorization to protect transgender people from being discriminated against when it comes to reproductive care. This would ensure, for example, that transgender men who have retained their ability to have children aren’t denied care (or insurance coverage for that care) because of their gender identity.

The Trump administration has rolled back guidance protecting transgender people from health care discrimination, suggesting it’s unlikely to support such an expansion. This will likely have the effect of recreating barriers for trans people to access sex-specific procedures like mammograms, prostate exams, and cervical Pap tests.

What The Nation’s Doctors Say About Transgender Rights And Marriage Equality

To cement their commitment to honoring and protecting transgender people from discrimination, the AMA delegates also “called for future AMA meetings to take place, whenever possible, only in those counties, cities and states that have nondiscriminatory policies.”

Groups like the Human Rights Campaign (HRC) and GLMA (Health Professionals Advancing LGBT Equality) applauded the resolutions. HRC’s Mary Beth Maxwell noted in a statement that the AMA “knows better than most the harmful consequences of ill-conceived anti-transgender actions.” GLMA, which helped draft the resolutions, praised the new polices as being “extremely beneficial to LGBT individuals and the care they receive.”

Representing well over 200,000 physicians, medical students, and residents, the American Medical Association is the largest medical professional organization in the United States.

https://thinkprogress.org/ama-transg...s-ee58e8cb7ecc
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There is no way around the fact that the trans boy has an advantage because he is taking testosterone. If he was not taking testosterone, than he would not have an advantage.

The issue is hormones, not how one identifies when it comes to fair competition.

The positive about this happening, is that when the parents become upset that their daughters' competitor has an unfair advantage, the rule will change in Texas and transitioning boys will wrestle on the male team (and hopefully, trans girls who are taking testosterone blockers will play on the girls teams). When this happens it will be fair for all the kids.

I think it is nice that a "resident of Austin" and one of the cis girls said they welcoming of him playing with the girls, but it just simply isn't fair. It isn't good for anyone.

Thanks for posting this.
Please forgive my ignorance on the subject of hormone therapy, but I fail to see how testosterone in and of itself would give someone an unfair advantage. I am old and there was no girls wrestling team when I went to high school, but if there were at 5' 11" and 180 lbs I could have easily beaten most girls and boys in my weight class, as I had a very muscular upper torso ,without testosterone therapy.
Greco Roman wrestling is more about upper body strength and center of gravity. (I am assuming that anyone wrestling is being aggressive, it is not a passive sport.)
Please enlighten me as to how the testosterone gave an advantage.

That being said I do believe that transgendered youth should be participating on the teams of their gender identity, not the gender on their birth certificates.
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