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My personal pontification is that (as with many previous posts of a similar nature where man/woman was exchanged with butch/femme) it would be about 50/50. Welllll, wait, because about 4ish years ago, it would have been about 50/50. I'm gonna hazard a guess that it would be more 70ish against the article and 30ish in favor of the article. I'm changing that from 50-50, because in recent years, we really haven't seen as many of these articles popping up, and I don't know if that's because people's minds have changed, of if it's because the people who find it humorous have decided to shut up about it. But based on previous threads a few years ago, it used to be about 50-50. Thank you for explaining the integrity part. That does make it more clear. Much Appreciated, Dylan |
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From a personal place, I don't necessarily agree with the article...but then, I'm also wondering if that's not for me to say, since it was written by a women about women. Where's that line? I mean, if I were to read an article written by, say, a person from a culture that's not mine, is it then my place to say the article is offensive to that group? Example: Is it my place to say, Chris Rock's humor is racist? I'm being serious...I wonder. Dylan...I also find the article cis-sexist, and I wonder if applying it to trans people perpetuates cissexist attitudes. But again...I wonder many things. I'm not cis-sexed, and expecting One to conform to (or get 'the humor' of) cis-sexed society seems a little like...perpetuating cissexist views and mentalities. Does that makes sense? |
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As is expecting the oppressed group to 'act' the same way as the dominant/oppressing group. Sorry For Continuing To Add And Clarify, But The Phone Rang And I Got Sidetracked, Dylan |
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Now, as to whether I can speak for women, true. I may not being a position to speak on behalf of women but I can certainly speak on behalf of myself, as a man, how it bothers me and how I feel it's inaccurate and full of stereotypes.
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I did wonder whether, being in the Trans zone, I really should reply. But that's kinda why I didn't concentrate on the "Trans" aspect, more on the "people" and "society" aspect - and just hoped it was still useful to Linus. |
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Again, I'm not cis-sexed, nor do I date many straight women (for whom this article speaks), so, eh...who knows. I think it definitely promotes heterosexist and cis sexist norms and standards, and I choose not to participate in perpetuating those standards. I'm not arguing with you...just conversing. Dylan |
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Oh I know. And I like the conversation. Makes my mind work and understand better.
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I really do wonder at what point a man is 'allowed' to call out a woman (again, assuming it's a woman author) for saying something sexist.
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