I am a Lesbian/Man/Tman and I like Lesbians/Men/Transmen because....

[bonne-maman]

This thread is a response to the "misogyny/sexism in BF community" thread that is currently struggling with hurt. I know there are other variations of struggle between other subsets of us...but today I want to say nice things about Tmen and Men....so that's what I am doin!

If you identify as a:

1) Lesbian (butch or femme)
And you have something great to say about the Transmen or Men in your life,

OR

if you identify as a
2) Transman
3) Man

And you have something you love about the Lesbians you know.....

Say it here!

I am putting this in the "Gender" umbrella as I didn't want to pick either the Lesbian zone or the Transgender zone.

[bonne-maman]

their testosterone (if they have/take it) gives them big arm muscles and I have no qualms about needing big-arm-muscle people in my life.

And Kudos to the big muscles of non-testosterone taking Tmen, and butches (who almost all have bigger muscles than me).

[bonne-maman]

they use fewer words to get their point across and that is the most giant relief when one hangs out with a buncha lesbians a lot of the time.

[bonne-maman]

(this one is about Tmen)

they are COMPLICATED, complex, an amalgem, they intrigue me greatly.

[Corkey]

I am Transgendered Male Butch and I like lesbians, I love my wife who is Lesbian.

[bonne-maman]

Originally Posted by Corkey

I am Transgendered Male Butch and I like lesbians, I love my wife who is Lesbian.

Thanks Corkey! Can you express something about what you love about her being a Lesbian? Something you like that is just...so, so....lesbian about her?

[Corkey]

Originally Posted by bonne-maman

Thanks Corkey! Can you express something about what you love about her being a Lesbian? Something you like that is just...so, so....lesbian about her?

The way she loves me up, she's a giver.

[bonne-maman]

I love it when Tmen go to lesbian-focused events and bravely and politely assert their right to be there.

[bonne-maman]

they amuse me because they are so different from me.


[bonne --> --> "WTF are you up to anyway?"] [ Tman/Man/boy/boi ---> "Whee!"]

[bonne-maman]

Now I am editing my edits and don't have room.

I was saying that butches amuse me too, but I am trying here to make up for being a Y-chromosome hater in my distant past.

[bonne-maman]

I was right. Waiting is hard.

[Corkey]

Give it time folks are working.

[bonne-maman]

Originally Posted by Corkey

Give it time folks are working.

Thank you Corkey. Must take my own advice.


and

[Liam]

I am a man, and I love my best friend, who is a lesbian; she can organise a large group of people quickly, and get the show on the road, so the fun (fishing, hiking, party, pretty near anything,) can commence that much sooner.

[Liam]

Originally Posted by bonne-maman

Now I am editing my edits and don't have room.

I was saying that butches amuse me too, but I am trying here to make up for being a Y-chromosome hater in my distant past.

You've already made up for it, Bonne—you of the beautiful countenance and heart.

[SuperFemme]

I am a femme, a lesbian and I love other humans.

I happen to be in love with and married to a trans man, but not because he is a transman. It just happened that the human I fell for is a transman.

It's hard for me to couch an answer in what it is I love about a specific label, because no two transpeople that I know are exactly the same.

I will say that I appreciate it when a trans person wants to keep their Queer/Butch/Femme/Whatever roots and remain a part of the community.

I don't want to lose all the history and amazing people we have because they chose to transition, and I am incredibly grateful when people do not leave the community because of transition.

I know it's not easy sometimes.

I am also grateful when others make room for each other and change is accepted. Again, it's not always easy, but the pay off is immense.

[Gemme]

Originally Posted by SuperFemme

I will say that I appreciate it when a trans person wants to keep their Queer/Butch/Femme/Whatever roots and remain a part of the community.

I don't want to lose all the history and amazing people we have because they chose to transition, and I am incredibly grateful when people do not leave the community because of transition.

I know it's not easy sometimes.

I am also grateful when others make room for each other and change is accepted. Again, it's not always easy, but the pay off is immense.

Yes! I feel this way too.

[AtLast]

Originally Posted by bonne-maman

This thread is a response to the "misogyny/sexism in BF community" thread that is currently struggling with hurt. I know there are other variations of struggle between other subsets of us...but today I want to say nice things about Tmen and Men....so that's what I am doin!

If you identify as a:

1) Lesbian (butch or femme)
And you have something great to say about the Transmen or Men in your life,


I am a lesbian butch and I am thankful for the Transmen in my life from childhood and presently. One I am very thankful for is a terrific father to my late partner's daughter and was the kind of person that one can have positive interaction with as the non-co-parent, partner of his ex-partner with. (Are you dizzy?)

My intergendered cousin that I have only recently know of is one fine woman and I am always amazed at the shit she had thrown at her in her 76 years of life. Getting a perspective from someone this age is amazing!

I adore my son, a wonderful feminist man that is a very good husband and father. He brings joy to my life as does his daughters and fine wife.

OR

if you identify as a
2) Transman
3) Man

And you have something you love about the Lesbians you know.....

Say it here!

My close lesbian friends share similiar politics and I love it that I can count on them not to perpetuate hatred of all things male! Also, I do love their understanding of my butch persona.
I am putting this in the "Gender" umbrella as I didn't want to pick either the Lesbian zone or the Transgender zone.

Thanks for this thread!!!

[JustLovelyJenn]

I am a lesbian... and like SuperFemme, I have many Trans friends who are each unique and wonderful. I love how one transman friend of mine always has something nice to say about others... how another can get down on the grass with a group of children and completely occupy their attention for an hour. I love that another trans friend of mine tries so hard to please everyone around them AND is learning to do so without compromising hys own happiness.

I guess my point is that everyone I know has some wonderful quality about them.

I love MY trans because Hy is the most loving and caring person I have had in my life in a great many years. I love that Hy notices everything about me, that Hy is a cleaner, which compliments my organizer side. I love that Hy is happy in Hys own skin...

I think that this is what I love most about all my trans friends... that they are happy and content in who they are.

[bonne-maman]

Originally Posted by Liam

I am a man, and I love my best friend, who is a lesbian; she can organise a large group of people quickly, and get the show on the road, so the fun (fishing, hiking, party, pretty near anything,) can commence that much sooner.

Oh yes, many lesbians I know are known for their organizational skills. The non-profit world wouldn't be the same without em.