"Becoming Chaz" - Page 2

EnderD_503 · 05-09-2011, 05:38 PM

Bleargh...apparently it was playing at the Bell Lightbox last night only and I had no fucking idea. Why did they have to make it one night only? I would have gone had I known.

Anyways, now looks like I gotta wait for it to make its way to the internet...

Rockinonahigh · 05-09-2011, 08:30 PM

I herd that Chaz sgoing to be on Piers Morgan tonight,if so it will be on at 11:00pm my time...gonna stay up and check,with the crazyness going on since my son crashed his motorcycle I never thought t check on Oprah thia afternoon.

T D · 05-09-2011, 09:20 PM

As my own mother put it "you were my little girl. I dressed you up and made curls in your hair. You'll always be my little girl", etc. And it sounds too, this is very similar to how Cher feels/felt about Chastity. It's very difficult for a mom to let go of that part of her own self and the bond she has with her daughter, and allow us to be who we are. At nearly 60yo I'm struggling with this with my own mom. People are who they are and feel what they feel, and that's just who they/we are. It is what it is, and that's what we have to deal with, minute by minute, hour by hour, day by day.

Just my opinion of course, and sometimes it's not an easy opinion to live with.

Sachita · 05-10-2011, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Lost_punk_boi

Thank you for sharing this link! I had heard about it, but not much! That is sooo amazing!!! But why the Oprah Network tho?!?!?!

have you ever heard of the Oprah Effect? Millions or middle america and all across the world people watching every single show or taping it. I don't think Chaz could have picked a better venue IMO.

As for Cher's reaction.... as other stated, it an adjustment. I remember talking a friend once who just discovered her son was gay. She was sadden by it and I asked her why, since she was also queer. She wasn't sad over his lifestyle choice but the difficult life he might have in today's world. Even today gays are treated unfairly and let's face it, being queer is not the easiest choice, but we have no choice, right? She was fearful of him getting hurt, killed by ignorant idiots and having to fight so hard for love. Can you imagine how fearful a mother of a transgendered child? OMG I can be the most openminded person in the world, want my child to be happy but I also want them safe. I'm sure the reaction was knee jerk and she learns to love chaz as he is, accepting and even embracing who he is.

Strappie · 05-10-2011, 04:51 PM

HI all,

I really want to see this. If anyone knows of an online channel I can view this please post it.

I tried all my friends and know body has this channel.

Martina · 05-10-2011, 05:22 PM

i get that people react differently but she has all the time in the world -- and the resources. She can find out about T. She doesn't have to "not know."

Corkey · 05-10-2011, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Strappie

HI all,

I really want to see this. If anyone knows of an online channel I can view this please post it.

I tried all my friends and know body has this channel.

Do you have a local gay bar or outreach that does?

DapperButch · 05-10-2011, 09:00 PM

I spent the whole documentary worrying what Jenny was going to do next that would be embarrassing for Chaz to have on film. I think I was projecting my own anxiety onto Chaz...the anxiety I had with my crazy first girlfriend when we were in public (she was QUITE "Jenny like").

princessbelle · 05-10-2011, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DapperButch

I spent the whole documentary worrying what Jenny was going to do next that would be embarrassing for Chaz to have on film. I think I was projecting my own anxiety onto Chaz...the anxiety I had with my crazy first girlfriend when we were in public (she was QUITE "Jenny like").

I have to agree. I hoped to see someone that really supported him in a more positive way. You know...someone like the femmes/partners on BFP...lol. Seriously, I hope they make it. Seems they both need a lot of support. But, for sure it wasn't sugar coated at all.

I wish them both the best.

Still want someone to invite them to the reunion though.

DomnNC · 05-10-2011, 09:09 PM

I would imagine Cher is grieving the loss of her only daughter, even tho she's gained a son (which she always had but never knew). She's also concerned as a parent of all the health ramifications that taking T could potentially have. It's going to take time for her to adjust just as it will for all his family, friends etcetcetc. But I'm sure the more Chazz becomes more comfortable and more happy being his true self and she sees this that she will also become happy for him and more accepting of his decision. Give her time to grieve her loss, she'll come around just as most of his close circle will. He understands that as well, he's handling it quite well.

DomnNC · 05-10-2011, 09:12 PM

If you don't get the OWN network or you missed it you can go to the following link tomorrow and will find a link there to watch it online.

http://www.oprah.com/own

Jesse · 05-10-2011, 09:15 PM

I thought it admirable of both Jen and Chaz that they shared their relationship struggles, as well as Jen's struggles with sobriety.

Camo Eagle · 05-10-2011, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Strappie

HI all,

I really want to see this. If anyone knows of an online channel I can view this please post it.

I tried all my friends and know body has this channel.

Kinda why I miss the old days of VHS. Used to tape stuff, then we could all borrow/lend them around for all to see. Was a GREAT money maker on pay per view events. LOL

I thought the show was wonderful. Brought up a few issues in my own life that I guess I nev realized. The biggie was when Chaz talked about how he hate photos. Im the same way, and just realized it WAS bc I hated the way I looked, and didnt want to be seen/remembered in a female body.
I hav as many pics of me from last 2 yrs as, I hav of my whole life.

I applaud him for allowing us all to share in his journey.

DomnNC · 05-10-2011, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Camo Eagle

Kinda why I miss the old days of VHS. Used to tape stuff, then we could all borrow/lend them around for all to see. Was a GREAT money maker on pay per view events. LOL

I thought the show was wonderful. Brought up a few issues in my own life that I guess I nev realized. The biggie was when Chaz talked about how he hate photos. Im the same way, and just realized it WAS bc I hated the way I looked, and didnt want to be seen/remembered in a female body.
I hav as many pics of me from last 2 yrs as, I hav of my whole life.

Exactly!!!

I applaud him for allowing us all to share in his journey.

Me too, I thought he handled the documentary quite well indeed.

Linus · 05-10-2011, 10:30 PM

I just watched it. Very nice that it was open, honest and wasn't just the positive or fairy tale aspects. Granted, it's still from a public person's view it's still one of the better documentaries on trans guys I've seen.

Tommi · 05-10-2011, 10:32 PM

It's on here now...Awesome

Scuba · 05-11-2011, 07:42 AM

Fantastic documentary!! Thanks to Chaz and Jen for opening up to the public. It took a lot of courage, on both of their parts, to expose themselves as they did in the film AND as they do in the aftermath of the film. Thanks to Oprah for stepping outside of the "mainstream" box and providing a safe, comfortable space for the airing of this film. I laughed, I cried and I celebrated!!

diamondrose · 05-11-2011, 07:45 AM

I really enjoyed the show!!

Liam · 05-11-2011, 07:51 AM

I liked the documentary; while I did not issue press releases or ask that my transition be filmed, I related to Chaz a great deal. I particularly enjoyed the interview with Rosie O'Donnell, which followed "Becoming Chaz."

PinkieLee · 05-11-2011, 08:10 AM

Like Scubadyke said, "I laughed, I cried, I celebrated"!

I applaud Chaz for allowing the mainstream media to follow his transition and being able to show people a transgender familiar face. The documentary was open, honest and well done. I like the way they portrayed not only Chaz's transition, but his loved ones transition, too.

*Ok, I'm gonna go ahead and say it, those damn hairless cats freaked me out!*

05-09-2011, 09:20 PM	#23
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05-09-2011, 08:30 PM	#22
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05-10-2011, 04:51 PM	#25
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05-10-2011, 05:22 PM	#26
Martina Senior Member How Do You Identify?: * Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: * Posts: 4,999 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 13,409 Thanked 18,366 Times in 4,171 Posts Rep Power: 21474854	i get that people react differently but she has all the time in the world -- and the resources. She can find out about T. She doesn't have to "not know."

05-10-2011, 09:09 PM	#30
DomnNC Timed Out How Do You Identify?: Male Preferred Pronoun?: He/Him Relationship Status: Widow Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Permanently Banned 11/15/2011 Posts: 1,223 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 2,618 Thanked 2,582 Times in 837 Posts Rep Power: 0	I would imagine Cher is grieving the loss of her only daughter, even tho she's gained a son (which she always had but never knew). She's also concerned as a parent of all the health ramifications that taking T could potentially have. It's going to take time for her to adjust just as it will for all his family, friends etcetcetc. But I'm sure the more Chazz becomes more comfortable and more happy being his true self and she sees this that she will also become happy for him and more accepting of his decision. Give her time to grieve her loss, she'll come around just as most of his close circle will. He understands that as well, he's handling it quite well.

05-10-2011, 09:12 PM	#31
DomnNC Timed Out How Do You Identify?: Male Preferred Pronoun?: He/Him Relationship Status: Widow Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Permanently Banned 11/15/2011 Posts: 1,223 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 2,618 Thanked 2,582 Times in 837 Posts Rep Power: 0	If you don't get the OWN network or you missed it you can go to the following link tomorrow and will find a link there to watch it online. http://www.oprah.com/own

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Scuba Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Butch Relationship Status: Flying Solo Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: PNW Posts: 2,258 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 6,749 Thanked 8,048 Times in 1,618 Posts Rep Power: 21474852	Fantastic documentary!! Thanks to Chaz and Jen for opening up to the public. It took a lot of courage, on both of their parts, to expose themselves as they did in the film AND as they do in the aftermath of the film. Thanks to Oprah for stepping outside of the "mainstream" box and providing a safe, comfortable space for the airing of this film. I laughed, I cried and I celebrated!!

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05-11-2011, 08:10 AM	#40
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