Neurodiversity

[violaine]

http://www.nas.org.uk/nas/jsp/polopo...d=2427&a=19737

[Kimbo]

Autism and hormones

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/15/AR2010021501984.html

[violaine]

about the spray i heard about it on the news/npr. thank you for posting the article

here are some more really good autism news stories:

http://www.theautismnews.com/

why autism is different for girls = very interesting.

[StoneFinn]

stops in and says hello (and hello again to everyone)

[Andrew, Jr.]

Hiya StoneFinn!

[Jess]

Driving back home a little while ago, I got to catch the Fresh Air interview with Temple Grandin. What an amazing spirit! I recorded the HBO special for Christie and I to watch. I look forward to it even more now.

Hope everyone gets to catch it!

http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2010...bable_jou.html this is the fresh air interview!

[Andrew, Jr.]

Thank you Jess. I don't have HBO, but I will look for it on that youtube.

You are the bomb!

Love,
Andrew

[StoneFinn]

Originally Posted by Andrew, Jr.

Hiya StoneFinn!

Heya Andrew Thank you, and you can call me finn or even han (tattooed_han)....

[Apocalipstic]

Hi there!

I was diagnosed with AS after suspecting it for a while a year or so ago...or maybe two, I am spun and not thinking clearly.

I really enjoyed the thread on the other website and will read all of this one and come back to chat!

Thank you Urs and Belle!

[suebee]

Cross-posting this from the animal rescue thread. It's an interview with Temple Grandin - some of the same quotes have already been posted here. It's a great insight into the different ways we perceive, process and use information. The interview is here.

I know I'm often puzzled by the way people perceive my words. At times I'm much more aware and able to communicate in a way that's easily heard. At other times I'm truly surprised at others' reactions, and the way I perceive others.

Life. It's a learning process. *sigh*

[Apocalipstic]

Originally Posted by cybersuebee

Cross-posting this from the animal rescue thread. It's an interview with Temple Grandin - some of the same quotes have already been posted here. It's a great insight into the different ways we perceive, process and use information. The interview is here.

I know I'm often puzzled by the way people perceive my words. At times I'm much more aware and able to communicate in a way that's easily heard. At other times I'm truly surprised at others' reactions, and the way I perceive others.

Life. It's a learning process. *sigh*

I am very amazed at how people perceive what I say, especially recently.

Life has been in an uproar for the past year or so, and I just can't seem to get calmed down and organized and back in my groove.

I will write or say things, and while it can seem quite clear to me, the opposite of what I am trying to say is perceived.....

I feel pretty lost and overwhelmed and sensitive.

When I am in meltdown, I have to cut the tags out of all my clothes, wear soft things, make sure my hair is not pulling, control sounds and light around me, even the scent.

I am going to order the sensitive book, maybe that will give me more ideas on how to cope.

Loving this thread.

[violaine]

lovely jen,

hallo

one of the most slaying situations ever for me is when i'm feeling open/vulnerable and seeking further clarification, but the response i receive is so over-the-top-over-correcting as if i'm being unkind! [then, to make matters worse, i cannot handle trying to figure out/deal with other possible angry behavioural issues all connected to the perceived need to 'over-correct' me in the first place !]. wears me out! why not just ask for more information before of lashing out?

whatever i said open/vulnerable becomes overlooked, and the person has seen me in a bad light, and is responding in a way that does not compute. sometimes trying to make the situation better for others sure narrows my own freedom to express verbally or emotionally a full range. that gets frustrating.

ps- my close aspie friend andrew just apologies mostly for misunderstandings. i would prefer to have dialogue and understand/be understood whenever possible.

[Apocalipstic]

Originally Posted by violaine

lovely jen,

hallo

one of the most slaying situations ever for me is when i'm feeling open/vulnerable and seeking further clarification, but the response i receive is so over-the-top-over-correcting as if i'm being unkind! [then, to make matters worse, i cannot handle trying to figure out/deal with other possible angry behavioural issues all connected to the perceived need to 'over-correct' me in the first place !]. wears me out! why not just ask for more information before of lashing out?

whatever i said open/vulnerable becomes overlooked, and the person has seen me in a bad light, and is responding in a way that does not compute. sometimes trying to make the situation better for others sure narrows my own freedom to express verbally or emotionally a full range. that gets frustrating.

ps- my close aspie friend andrew just apologies mostly for misunderstandings. i would prefer to have dialogue and understand/be understood whenever possible.

I have been experiencing this lately, being singled out as being unkind or pitting people against each other, when if I read the posts they make logical sense to me and the last think I want is to be unkind.

Am trying to not be so direct and short, but that seems to get me in even more trouble.

Sometimes I just apologize. But my friends all say I apologize way too much and that gets on people's nerves too. The other day, I walked into the kitchen and said to Cynthia "I apologize for anything I may have ever done or may ever do to irritate you".

I don't know.

[Bit]

*waves hello to everyone*

Originally Posted by apocalipstic

The other day, I walked into the kitchen and said to Cynthia "I apologize for anything I may have ever done or may ever do to irritate you".

OMG! I've been apologizing in advance for years!!

{{{{{{{{{{{{{{Jen}}}}}}}}}}}}} Honey, it's been an AWFUL year for you, and the one before it wasn't a whole lot better. Hang in there and give it time--things really will get better.

[Apocalipstic]

really???

I am not the only over-appologizer?

[Andrew, Jr.]

I just apologize to just end it. Otherwise it tends to be like a long, drug out press conference where nothing comes out right for me. In other words, for me it is like this >>>. Sometimes there are some who want to start or instigate a fight and I am so not like that. I walk right away. Too many times I have been in a position of defeat, and coming from a childhood abuse situation...it just stirs up bad feelings for me. So I walk away. I am a practicing Buddist/Christain. I believe in forgiveness, turning the other cheek, and praying for other people.

I am not good with words or reading comprehension. It takes me literally hours to read and reread threads and posts. Some I grasp ok, and some I struggle with. Words tangle me up like fishing line. And some folks think its cute and funny, but really it isn't. It is very frustrating, and very upsetting. If you only could walk a day in my shoes. Just a day. Or go and volunteer at a neuro. rehab. center for a day. See how that is. Then you can criticize me all you want. Until that point, no. Nobody has a right to critize or put down anyone who has any neurolog. disorder or disease.

Love,
Andrew

PS: Belle, you are a doll! Big love to the piggies!

PSS: Apocalipstic, you are a doll too! It is in our DNA that we all share here. You, me, Belle, and I believe Bit is one of us too.

[Apocalipstic]

Andrew, I want to say that I never have a problem reading your posts. I think you are a very good writer.

[violaine]

i would like to touch on why people apologise so often, please- if anyone cares to explore deeper the topic? is it due to [or more/other than] feeling like words will come out all wrong in general [once a certain point in conversation has been reached]- or due to not wanting to take up so much time of another person, upsetting someone or even yourself further, past experiences, et c.

how can there be a happier medium, i wonder? where the communication chasm gets smaller, and frustrations lessen?

ohk. time for me to run some errands, and find out about some animal control related matters. hope you all have a wonderful afternoon. i'm crazy for people in this thread

[Andrew, Jr.]

Apocalipstic,

I actually start working on my writing before I post. I have to look up words. I even have people read what I am going to post beforehand. Unless I am angry. Then I let it rip. Thank you for your kind remarks. I appreciate it.


Belle,

I walk away. I talk to my furkids. I disconnect from here, and go onto my other hobbies. It is only when someone pushes me to the cliff. We all know the experiences. Or someone will say that we are hiding. No, it is a matter of protecting ourselves from jerks.

[Apocalipstic]

Originally Posted by violaine

i would like to touch on why people apologise so often, please- if anyone cares to explore deeper the topic? is it due to [or more/other than] feeling like words will come out all wrong in general [once a certain point in conversation has been reached]- or due to not wanting to take up so much time of another person, upsetting someone or even yourself further, past experiences, et c.

how can there be a happier medium, i wonder? where the communication chasm gets smaller, and frustrations lessen?

ohk. time for me to run some errands, and find out about some animal control related matters. hope you all have a wonderful afternoon. i'm crazy for people in this thread

I think for me it is a combination, but mostly due to past trauma and not wanting to take up anyones time or space or disturb anyone.

I appologize all over myself when frustrated.

Originally Posted by Andrew, Jr.

Apocalipstic,

I actually start working on my writing before I post. I have to look up words. I even have people read what I am going to post beforehand. Unless I am angry. Then I let it rip.


Belle,

I walk away. I talk to my furkids. I disconnect from here, and go onto my other hobbies. It is only when someone pushes me to the cliff. We all know the experiences. Or someone will say that we are hiding. No, it is a matter of protecting ourselves from jerks.

protection is a great thing!