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Originally Posted by SelfMadeMan
I'm not a man because of the clothes I wear, or the way I walk, or the way I wear my hair. I am a man because since I was 4 years old I knew I was, and I did whatever it took to become that legally and to the rest of the world.
I don't even know if I'm making sense or getting my point across - but I am open to discussion and would like to break this down more. Thoughts?
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yes. I know plenty of men of any/all origins or aren't even slightly butch-as-adjective. In fact two of my closest men friends are giant queens. And manly as all get-out. And still very much the male they have always been no matter what their starting point was.
Butch, for many, is a gender - regardless. some people I know that physically transition into their very own gender and sex (not exactly male sex, but something else entirely) still see one of their genders as butch as their sex still encompasses something partially female.
So I can see the crossing of why some still claim the gender.
But I can see/understand the very clear logic of why many do not.
I personally don't tend to see FtM as butch. Unless they tell me they are because of the variety of their sex(transition and head space) (FtQ a term a couple of my friends use and how I separate it in my own head).
again, it's not up to me though. it's where they live. I have no say in that.