[AtLast]

Hummmm.... thinking I don't buy Kleenex/tissue either and live alone, but for the life of me, I just can't see most of this kind of stuff in relationship to my being butch. I might feel badly about not having some real tissue to offer but this has to do with courtesy, not my butchness.

Sure, I have had some only a butch/guy would do that from femmes. My first reaction is correcting the use of guy with me. Secondly, I have no connection to anything around de-masculinization and find it personally insulting. There is nothing to de, or emasculate with me. I am not a man and my masculine traits are just part of the female I am.

And if I had to somehow defend my butch identity based upon stereotypes of men and male behavior, I would be out the door!

No, this butch does not understand much of this. But, some of you do, so all is good. Sometimes when I ask my son (an adult) about some of these kinds of references to men/masculine traits as applied to butches, he just shakes his head..... and says he’s glad I’m the butch woman I am because all that man-crap is so oppressive. And yes, he would most likely go get his wife the box of tissues. It would be about not touching them before she used them (a cleanliness thang and not knowing how many she wants).