Fan Tasered. What do you think?

[SuperFemme]

So they actually attacked the man? That is horrid.
If the young man in this recent incident had seemed to be heading towards a person then yeah. Taze away.

[The_Lady_Snow]

Mortal Combat powers!!!

Ms Potty that is AWESOME!!!

I would so wanna be at THAT game!

[weatherboi]

yeah but i didnt think we were coming from that specific angle...i mean how many off duty taser toting cops go to games with crazy fan streakers??

we will compare it when it finally happens to be a person with a bomb attached to them...i mean i think alot of people never thought 9/11 would happen

anybody that knows me knows i dont live my life in fear
i am well aware randomness happens because i have had my own taste more than twice

Originally Posted by SuperFemme

I am not sure, but wasn't it an off duty cop with a surprise tazer that got the boy?

I don't think a fan on the field is comparative to terrorism. Suspicious packages in the stadium are more scary. Also, I haven't been to any event sports, music or otherwise since 9/11 that doesn't wand and hand search spectators.

Anything can happen anywhere. I don't want to live my life in fear of what *might* happen. Just go ahead and kill me now rather than having me exist in fear.

[SuperFemme]

Originally Posted by weatherboi

yeah but i didnt think we were coming from that specific angle...i mean how many off duty taser toting cops go to games with crazy fan streakers??

we will compare it when it finally happens to be a person with a bomb attached to them...i mean i think alot of people never thought 9/11 would happen

anybody that knows me knows i dont live my life in fear
i am well aware randomness happens because i have had my own taste more than twice

I know you and know you don't live in fear.
I was just saying that if I let my mind wander down that road?
I. am. fucked.

I'd never leave the house.

[The_Lady_Snow]

Originally Posted by SuperFemme

I know you and know you don't live in fear.
I was just saying that if I let my mind wander down that road?
I. am. fucked.

I'd never leave the house.

Pfft

I would taser your ass and roll you out of the house... Each time you protested

ZAP~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Hack]

Monica Seles, the tennis player...attacked by a fan during a match. Seriously wounded physically and scarred emotionally. I don't think she ever played tennis again after that.

I'm not saying this young man at the Phillies game would have attacked anyone. But how do we know? We don't. He exercised poor judgment and lacks personal responsibility -- does he deserve to get tasered for that? I don't think so, because, really, think of the number of people we all know who would qualify for being tasered.

However, if you are going to exercise your poor judgment and put your lack of personal responsibility on display at a major public event where security is instructed -- to the letter -- to protect not only the athletes but the other fans, then yes, I think you should be subdued and removed from the stadium.

And has anyone mentioned that the guy who was tasered was not the only incident at a Phillies game this year? Another fan ran out of in the field recently too. He was subdued without a taser and removed from the stadium.

It could be worse...we could have the crazy UK and European soccer fans. People kill each other at those games sometimes.

Jake

[betenoire]

Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow

Pfft

I would taser your ass and roll you out of the house... Each time you protested

ZAP~~~~~~~~~~~~~

ong you're mad with power!

[SuperFemme]

Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow

Pfft

I would taser your ass and roll you out of the house... Each time you protested

ZAP~~~~~~~~~~~~~

yeah.
so....
this is more for the constant craving thread....

[Mister Bent]

I say trade that thing for an anal probe and the problem will cease.

Except for freaks (like weatherboi)who would be all about it.

[betenoire]

Originally Posted by Mister Bent

I say trade that thing for an anal probe and the problem will cease.

Except for freaks (like weatherboi)who would be all about it.

Wait. So instead of off-duty cops we will have off-duty Aliens wandering around all mad with power?



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[weatherboi]

you brought up the anal probe not me Bent

Originally Posted by Mister Bent

I say trade that thing for an anal probe and the problem will cease.

Except for freaks (like weatherboi)who would be all about it.

[SuperFemme]

Originally Posted by weatherboi

you brought up the anal probe not me Bent

heh. right?

[Mister Bent]

Originally Posted by weatherboi

you brought up the anal probe not me Bent

Those damned subliminal messages!

[christie]

Originally Posted by betenoire

I really don't get why a cop should have to/get to carry his weapons with him when he's off duty. But then, I'm Canadian. We're not all about the running around carrying weapons up here.

As I understand it, the Law Enforcement Safety Act of 2004 (which is Federal) gives off duty law enforcement permission to carry firearms off duty.

The general idea is that law enforcement are not ever really off duty.

I have no knowledge of Canadian laws regarding off duty officers and the ins and outs of what weapons, if any are permitted.

[Toofrufru]

Off duty again refers to a shift that is not their regular duty. example patrol officers not on patrol,or an overtime or extra assignment.

My opinion (and only mine) on the "child" 17 years of age that was handed over the keys to a vehicle to get to the game, maneuvered his way to the "once in a lifetime" experience, has a cellphone to call for the advice of his father and made the adult decision to ignore it, as well as the adult decision to ignore the rules that the other thousands of fans seem to be able to follow them. Yet lives by the NOT ME mentality of "Im just a kid having fun". Which is the same response of every one that had the drink at prom and killed some one, that got the girl pregnant after having sex once, that killed their best friend while texting in a vehicle. Yes I am a hard ass. Realize I sit behind the phone and receive the calls daily from the mothers of these so called "children" who ignore their advice the same way this kid just wanting to have fun does. Only wanting to stay out an hour later or get the cellphones taken away get mad runaway for what they thought was a night come home raped and beaten up. Tase them now tase them twice It may just save them from a worse outcome later on.

[Dean Thoreau]

Originally Posted by Medusa

Um, NO.

I think that tasering a minor for being an asshat is complete overkill. Especially at a sporting event where running onto the field is a time-honored tradition for obnoxious daredevils everywhere.

Don't tase them, bro!

Well actually Philadelphia sports fans and sporting events are a bit ummmm.....crude. The ball park that the phillies play in even has their own branch of court so individuals can be taken right to the judge due to the massive amount of poor behavior known at the games. Am I shocked by a person getting tasered..nope....Actually I am shocked the off duty cop didnt just pull out his 38 and kill the kid.....

Philadelphia................it may have been the birthplace to freedom, but since then.....it kinda sux!

[apretty]

Originally Posted by betenoire

I really don't get why a cop should have to/get to carry his weapons with him when he's off duty. But then, I'm Canadian. We're not all about the running around carrying weapons up here.

it's amerika we've gotta protect our borders, we never leave home without our guns and ammo!

[Dean Thoreau]

not enough choices....................
i vote that people who disrupt an event in which there was an admission charge....be removed placed in a prison cell and left there till the end of the event, afterwhich they be hung so as never to do it again.

perhaps it will take 3 or 4 hangings but eventually people will learn that disrupting an event is not "cute, funny, or a way to get your 15 minutes of fame" this goes for little kids who decide to start screaming in church as well....hang them and their parents.

[Andrew, Jr.]

Hack,

Monica Seles never played after that incident. In fact, she was stabbed by that so-called "fan". She wrote a book afterwards. Now who knows where she is in her life. Very sad.

[Linus]

PHILADELPHIA: Illegal

Philadelphia City Ordinance. Statute 10-825 Stun Guns. (1) Definitions. (a) Stun Gun. Any device which expels or projects a projectile which, upon coming in contact with a person, is capable of inflicting injury or an electric shock to such person. (2) Prohibited conduct. No person shall own, use, possess, sell or otherwise transfer any "stun gun." (3) Penalty. Any person violating any provision of this section shall be subject to a fine or not more than three hundred (300) dollars and /or imprisonment for not more than ninety (90 days.)


Source: http://rkdefense.com/laws.php

Off-duty or not, it's illegal.


Now, the ethics of it... part of me can understand it. The amount of alcohol and other "stuff" that goes on, as well as some of the over zealousness of some fans towards or against sports figures could warrant it. There is another part that wonders how much of a threat he really was and whether it was just frustration on the part of the security guards.



The question that is appropriate is how well trained was the individual in the use of the taser. If trained well, they have saved lives on both sides of the taser. Unfortunately, I have doubts as to how well some are trained. There have been a few too many cases where the use of tasers (stun guns) have resulted in deaths of individuals (some were due to improper training, others due to the health of the individual in question).