Trans or Butch

Clyde · 02-17-2018, 05:14 PM

Hey Ender - Of course, I can only speak for myself, so the usual disclaimers apply. I consider myself a "butch guy" which, to me, equates to a masculine spirit in a female body. If you're asking whether other people choose to present themselves as male or masculine online, you'd get a "yes" from me. That is one of the reasons I come to this site. Given most opportunities, I choose male or gender neutral ("they") pronouns. It usually makes me feel weird to be called by female terms, like "lady" or "dear", even when people don't mean anything by it.

I've considered whether transitioning was something I might do, but for me, for various reasons, I've landed on just being what I am. And again, speaking for me and not anyone else who might decide to get their feathers ruffled by that statement.

Your journey is your own, of course. But I can relate to where you're at, if that helps at all.

Ender · 02-17-2018, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Clyde

Hey Ender - Of course, I can only speak for myself, so the usual disclaimers apply. I consider myself a "butch guy" which, to me, equates to a masculine spirit in a female body. If you're asking whether other people choose to present themselves as male or masculine online, you'd get a "yes" from me. That is one of the reasons I come to this site. Given most opportunities, I choose male or gender neutral ("they") pronouns. It usually makes me feel weird to be called by female terms, like "lady" or "dear", even when people don't mean anything by it.

I've considered whether transitioning was something I might do, but for me, for various reasons, I've landed on just being what I am. And again, speaking for me and not anyone else who might decide to get their feathers ruffled by that statement.

Your journey is your own, of course. But I can relate to where you're at, if that helps at all.

That does help. Thank you.

ardentfemme · 02-18-2018, 01:10 AM

I don't mean to intrude, but I thought maybe I could share some resources that might be helpful.

Ivan Coyote writes a lot about occupying this liminal space between trans and butch. "I had already spent years feeling like I was perched with one foot on a trans-shaped rowboat and the other foot resting on a butch dock, balancing myself and my language and words and work in the space between them," they wrote in "Between the Boat and the Dock." (https://www.facebook.com/ThePrideChr...95113043929997).

Another piece by Coyote that might resonate with you is "Shouldn't I Feel Pretty?" (https://thewalrus.ca/shouldnt-i-feel-pretty/).

Lastly, I'm sure you've heard of (if not already read) the seminal Stone Butch Blues. It can be found here for free: http://www.lesliefeinberg.net/

I hope you get the advice and support you need. Also I hope you know there are many ways to be butch or trans or a combination of both, and they're all valid.

Best of luck to you on your journey.

02-17-2018, 05:14 PM	#1
Clyde Member How Do You Identify?: Mr. Queer Butch. Preferred Pronoun?: He/They. Relationship Status: Butchelor. Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Portland. Posts: 256 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 320 Thanked 700 Times in 195 Posts Rep Power: 11912191	Hey Ender - Of course, I can only speak for myself, so the usual disclaimers apply. I consider myself a "butch guy" which, to me, equates to a masculine spirit in a female body. If you're asking whether other people choose to present themselves as male or masculine online, you'd get a "yes" from me. That is one of the reasons I come to this site. Given most opportunities, I choose male or gender neutral ("they") pronouns. It usually makes me feel weird to be called by female terms, like "lady" or "dear", even when people don't mean anything by it. I've considered whether transitioning was something I might do, but for me, for various reasons, I've landed on just being what I am. And again, speaking for me and not anyone else who might decide to get their feathers ruffled by that statement. Your journey is your own, of course. But I can relate to where you're at, if that helps at all. __________________ Find a reason to be happy right now.

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02-18-2018, 01:10 AM	#3
ardentfemme Junior Member How Do You Identify?: Fierce Femme Preferred Pronoun?: She/Her Relationship Status: ~daydreaming~ Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: West Coast is the Best Coast Posts: 81 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 65 Thanked 304 Times in 74 Posts Rep Power: 6329325	I don't mean to intrude, but I thought maybe I could share some resources that might be helpful. Ivan Coyote writes a lot about occupying this liminal space between trans and butch. "I had already spent years feeling like I was perched with one foot on a trans-shaped rowboat and the other foot resting on a butch dock, balancing myself and my language and words and work in the space between them," they wrote in "Between the Boat and the Dock." (https://www.facebook.com/ThePrideChr...95113043929997). Another piece by Coyote that might resonate with you is "Shouldn't I Feel Pretty?" (https://thewalrus.ca/shouldnt-i-feel-pretty/). Lastly, I'm sure you've heard of (if not already read) the seminal Stone Butch Blues. It can be found here for free: http://www.lesliefeinberg.net/ I hope you get the advice and support you need. Also I hope you know there are many ways to be butch or trans or a combination of both, and they're all valid. Best of luck to you on your journey.