2020 Presidential Election

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Originally Posted by Apocalipstic

I need to read this entire thread...but till I do, a couple of thoughts.

1. A shit house rat would be better than the Cheeto.

2. My current favorite is Elizabeth Warren

3. All of the Democratic Presidents I remember were centrist. I dream of a Socialist Utopia, or at least the programs that LBJ put in place, healthcare and education for everyone and no children in cages.

4. I will vote for whomever the Dems run for President

5. I think Kamala Harris is very elegant and poised...don't see the classless/unstatespersonish angle

6. What the hell is it going to take to get Trump out of there, though, I am not sure Pence would be any better

7. I have heard whisperings that Trump is going to drop Pence for 2020 and run ....Ivanka as VP...

Pence is as much of a right-wing zealot as Trump, maybe worse. Ivanka for VP, unbelievable?! Though, not much can shock me now. Maybe the secret meetings Trump had with Putin were about how to turn a regime into a Plutocracy or Aristocracy. Just kidding roflol.

Socialist utopia? Socialism is no utopia, no government is. They all need much work to succeed, yes?