2020 Presidential Election

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Originally Posted by Apocalipstic

If Bidien has committed crimes, I want to know the truth.
and if ideed he has committed crimes, the stakes were different in the 80s and 90s.....but if with no provocation he was fingering his emoployees, we need another plan.

I read 8 or 9 women. Did he do it, or is this Russing Troll info. I honesly dont know, or believe anything anyone says.

Would President Obama support him? Biden has run for President before...why now? No its not easy to accuse someone of sexual assault. To win a case.

Thats a sad place to be.

I heard yesterday that Biden would appear on "Morning Joe", so I watched this morning. Mika was the one who grilled (to put it mildly) Biden. He categorically denied the assault.

Apart from "he said, she said", my "takeaway" from listening attentively to the above was the hypocrisy of Biden who really pushed for a stance to "believe" a priori Christine Blasey Ford's testimony accusing Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh. I call it hypocrisy because he hedged Mika's grilling on his previous comments during Kavanaugh's nomination. It was, to my mind, an unsurprising double standard response on Biden's part. Biden is a politician, eh? (lol, smh)

part of transcript:

MB: ..."You said if someone like Dr. Ford were to come out, the essence of what she is saying has to be believed, has to be real. Why, why, why, why is it real for Dr. Ford but not for Tara Reade?"
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JB: ..."And if there’s anything that makes it — that is consistent with what’s being said, and she makes the case or the case is made, then it should be believed"...

What I got from this is that he is saying that he is innocent until he is proven guilty; it's here that I make my little scoffing cough...

MB: "Well, I’m going to try and ask many different ways. Stacey Abrams said during the Kavanaugh hearings: “I believe women. I believe survivors of assault should be supported and their voices heard.” Kirsten Gillibrand tweeted: “Do we believe women? Do we give them the opportunity to tell their story? We must be a country that says yes every time... Are women to be believed — are women to believed unless it pertains to you?"

JB: "Look, women are to be believed, given the benefit of the doubt. If they come forward and say something that is, that they said happened to them, they should start off with the presumption they’re telling the truth. Then you have to look at the circumstances and the facts. And the facts in this case do not exist. They never happened, and there’s so many inconsistencies in what has been said in this case. So yes, look at the facts, and I assure you it did not happen. Period. Period."

Of course, this went on, but the interesting part was when Mika insisted that a search of the name "Tara Reade" in the University of Delaware records be done to find proof/mention of some accusation by her, etc. To which, again, Biden rationalized that such records contained only info that was political in nature and left it at that.

All I can say is that idk what happened, but I was not impressed by Biden's response.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/01/u...ade-msnbc.html