Butch friends

[Merlin]

For me it started off as friendships which progressed.

I have had three serious relationships.

And three liasons,i was a slow starter and missed out on lot's.

[Julie]

Originally Posted by Merlin

For me it started off as friendships which progressed.

I have had three serious relationships.

And three liasons,i was a slow starter and missed out on lot's.

Clearly this statement is different than what you stated above.

Most relationships begin as friendship, well at least in my world. It is how you develop.

I wish you great luck in finding your butch community. It is important to have comraderie - I know for me, developing relationships with other femmes, is like coming home. It's beautiful and I cherish those friendships.

Julie

[Merlin]

What's making it hard is in the uk we are geographically challenged,and compared to the usa it's a far smaller community.

I don't get to see fellow butch/femme folk due to work and sometimes it feels like a real lonely path to walk.

[Massive]

I don't mean to be nasty or step on any toes here, but I have to say, I think it is very different here in the UK as opposed to the US. Yes we have large gay communities in London, Brighton and a few other major cities, but most of us don't live in those places, most of us here are lucky to have one gay pub to go too, and most places do not have exclusively women only bars, I know I certainly don't. Sometimes there may be a bar which is aimed at gay men who 'tolerate' gay women, but nothing more. I may be missing something by having not travelled to the US, but I see it so often that people miss how someone is from the UK, and seem to miss how in a lot of ways, we're pretty far back in the dark ages in some ways when it comes to being queer. Yes, we have 'marriage' but it's not equal with hetero marriage in any way shape or form, it's a totally different culture in the UK, we're pretty old fashioned too, and nothing like the tv portrays either ...
Anyway, sorry for the derail, just wanted to say this.

[Julie]

Now that is a whole different story. I believe my reaction came from the delivery.
Pissing - Cock penning and henning... Sleeping with femme friends (lol).

I know Dreamer who lives in Australia has the same issues. No real B/F community. Makes perfect sense.

[Massive]

I'm with Merlin here, I have no gay community around me at all, I think there may be some lesbians within 30 miles of me, but it's too far for me to travel, it's an hour and a half bus journey to get to the nearest scene for me, and then I have to leave by no later than 7pm because otherwise I can't get back home again. It can be seriously isolated here somedays, which is why I personally rely so heavily on the internet and sites like this, because otherwise I'd never get a chance in hell to interact with other people in the B-F dynamic, which, for me, is a way of life now!

[Merlin]

Yes,i know of some lesbians but they don't like butches as we have a tiny wiff of testosterone . .

[Massive]

Originally Posted by Merlin

Yes,i know of some lesbians but they don't like butches as we have a tiny wiff of testosterone . .

I know exactly what you mean! They seem to run away from me before looking past the exterior, I mean, just cos we're butch doesn't mean we're monsters ...

[Merlin]

Originally Posted by Massive

I don't mean to be nasty or step on any toes here, but I have to say, I think it is very different here in the UK as opposed to the US. Yes we have large gay communities in London, Brighton and a few other major cities, but most of us don't live in those places, most of us here are lucky to have one gay pub to go too, and most places do not have exclusively women only bars, I know I certainly don't. Sometimes there may be a bar which is aimed at gay men who 'tolerate' gay women, but nothing more. I may be missing something by having not travelled to the US, but I see it so often that people miss how someone is from the UK, and seem to miss how in a lot of ways, we're pretty far back in the dark ages in some ways when it comes to being queer. Yes, we have 'marriage' but it's not equal with hetero marriage in any way shape or form, it's a totally different culture in the UK, we're pretty old fashioned too, and nothing like the tv portrays either ...
Anyway, sorry for the derail, just wanted to say this.

Nail on the head.