OCCUPY WALL STREET

Ebon · 10-25-2011, 09:00 PM

The cops adding fuel to the fire again.

greeneyedgrrl · 10-25-2011, 10:22 PM

Thanks for posting Ebon! They have reconvened at OO... anyone know of a live news feed for this? I have a buddy down there and I know they have used tear gas again tonight, and some people have been injured... but can't find a live feed... or even anything from tonight

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Originally Posted by Ebon

The cops adding fuel to the fire again.

Ebon · 10-25-2011, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by greeneyedgrrl

Thanks for posting Ebon! They have reconvened at OO... anyone know of a live news feed for this? I have a buddy down there and I know they have used tear gas again tonight, and some people have been injured... but can't find a live feed... or even anything from tonight

Here you go

live feed occupy oakland

Here is another link as well http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/livenow?id=8405688

greeneyedgrrl · 10-25-2011, 10:31 PM

thank you! you rock! i am going to repost.

Ebon · 10-25-2011, 10:33 PM

This is a video of the actual tear gas....

It's like a war zone. http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/video?id=8405794

greeneyedgrrl · 10-25-2011, 10:43 PM

yeah.. it's scary. it isn't that bad where i'm at... but most of the protesters here are middle aged white folks and i think that makes a big difference in the pd's response.. plus it's much smaller here. we're lucky if we get 100 people.

greeneyedgrrl · 10-25-2011, 11:02 PM

oakland's "finest" gassing a woman in a wheelchair
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

persiphone · 10-26-2011, 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebon

This is a video of the actual tear gas....

It's like a war zone. http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/video?id=8405794

no it IS a war zone. except the people being fired on aren't armed.

AtLast · 10-26-2011, 04:40 AM

What I am not understanding about what is going on in Oakland (a few miles South of me) is that the whole sanitation thing has been handled differently across many of the OWS protest areas across the states. In NYC, those protesting cleaned up the area themselves and all involved (demonstrators, city hall and police & fire) worked through these issues in a peaceful manner. There are usual and customary and scheduled cleaning methods used by towns and cities to keep parks clean and stop the spread of disease. These duties are performed by public employees that need their jobs.

I do just as a citizen have some issues about actual camps being set up in parks without having sanitation facilities also being set up along with people not littering or taking park space from usual visitors. for example, many elderly people gather to play chess and checkers in public parks and socialize on an every day basis. They ought to be able to use a public park in this way without being shoved out due to the protests.

I think that in some cases (not all), that homeless people are joining in because it is a way to set up a tent somewhere and blend in- and actually be in a safer (and warmer at night) environment. And no, I am not saying that all homeless people would not be part of such protests. Hell, there is a rise in homelessness that comes along with such high unemployment rates. Also, there are never enough beds or enough meals for the homeless as it is as provided by organizations that offer help to them.

I have been in many, many protests through the years and organizing sanitation as well as emergency contingency plans ate critical for long term protests. usually, permits are required that call for these kinds of contingencies. The fact is that hundreds of people in one area does pose health issues if things are not done to prevent these problems via public health practices.

There have been many nearby businesses in Oakland that do not want to continue to have non-customers use their restrooms. They have a right to feel this way as they are the ones that clean and maintain their restrooms and also want their restrooms to be used by customers.

I back this movement and want it to grow into something that effects voting and change that reflects the 99%. I don't want violent outbreaks in which people are injured, including police officers.

I don't get why the Oakland demonstrators and all involved couldn't come up with some of the same procedures as the NYC people did that made it so that the park was cleaned and the demonstrations could go on. Why not have an agreed amount of time that demonstrators leave and the cleaning is done- and also demonstrators making sure trash and litter is picked up?

I am also wondering about how at first, OWS participants came to designated areas and protested, then went home.. then came back on a daily basis. people were really rotating in and out of the protests, not living there.

Just seems like there are solutions available so that violence does not break out. I could not have all of the facts about the Oakland situation, however. I do know that if a group took over the dog park I use everyday in a way that I could not use it as a citizen, I wouldn’t like it. I have gone over to SF and participated in OWS, and then came home. I will do this again. Yet, so many people have lost their homes and jobs throughout all that has gone on with the 1% screwing common people, setting up tent cities may be a much more pointed way to draw attention to what has happened to so many… having to live in tents or cars and losing jobs.

ruffryder · 10-25-2011, 10:42 PM

Banks are seeking incentives and money from cities to bring jobs to the area.
In Jacksonville, http://jacksonville.com/business/201...s-jacksonville

On a positive note, perhaps, Mayor Brown went to Brazil to try and open up the ports for trading.

Is either of these good for cities?

Ebon · 10-25-2011, 10:42 PM

Atlanta is about to be raided as well. Here is there live stream. So I've heard. I'm going to keep an eye out.

http://www.livestream.com/occupyatlanta http://www.livestream.com/occupyatlanta

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10-25-2011, 11:02 PM	#7
greeneyedgrrl Member How Do You Identify?: femme/queer Preferred Pronoun?: she/her Join Date: May 2011 Location: cali Posts: 1,484 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 7,932 Thanked 3,268 Times in 835 Posts Rep Power: 21474853	oakland's "finest" gassing a woman in a wheelchair https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

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AtLast Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: Woman Preferred Pronoun?: HER - SHE Relationship Status: Relating Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: CA & AZ I'm a Snowbird Posts: 5,408 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 11,826 Thanked 10,827 Times in 3,199 Posts Rep Power: 21474858	What I am not understanding about what is going on in Oakland (a few miles South of me) is that the whole sanitation thing has been handled differently across many of the OWS protest areas across the states. In NYC, those protesting cleaned up the area themselves and all involved (demonstrators, city hall and police & fire) worked through these issues in a peaceful manner. There are usual and customary and scheduled cleaning methods used by towns and cities to keep parks clean and stop the spread of disease. These duties are performed by public employees that need their jobs. I do just as a citizen have some issues about actual camps being set up in parks without having sanitation facilities also being set up along with people not littering or taking park space from usual visitors. for example, many elderly people gather to play chess and checkers in public parks and socialize on an every day basis. They ought to be able to use a public park in this way without being shoved out due to the protests. I think that in some cases (not all), that homeless people are joining in because it is a way to set up a tent somewhere and blend in- and actually be in a safer (and warmer at night) environment. And no, I am not saying that all homeless people would not be part of such protests. Hell, there is a rise in homelessness that comes along with such high unemployment rates. Also, there are never enough beds or enough meals for the homeless as it is as provided by organizations that offer help to them. I have been in many, many protests through the years and organizing sanitation as well as emergency contingency plans ate critical for long term protests. usually, permits are required that call for these kinds of contingencies. The fact is that hundreds of people in one area does pose health issues if things are not done to prevent these problems via public health practices. There have been many nearby businesses in Oakland that do not want to continue to have non-customers use their restrooms. They have a right to feel this way as they are the ones that clean and maintain their restrooms and also want their restrooms to be used by customers. I back this movement and want it to grow into something that effects voting and change that reflects the 99%. I don't want violent outbreaks in which people are injured, including police officers. I don't get why the Oakland demonstrators and all involved couldn't come up with some of the same procedures as the NYC people did that made it so that the park was cleaned and the demonstrations could go on. Why not have an agreed amount of time that demonstrators leave and the cleaning is done- and also demonstrators making sure trash and litter is picked up? I am also wondering about how at first, OWS participants came to designated areas and protested, then went home.. then came back on a daily basis. people were really rotating in and out of the protests, not living there. Just seems like there are solutions available so that violence does not break out. I could not have all of the facts about the Oakland situation, however. I do know that if a group took over the dog park I use everyday in a way that I could not use it as a citizen, I wouldn’t like it. I have gone over to SF and participated in OWS, and then came home. I will do this again. Yet, so many people have lost their homes and jobs throughout all that has gone on with the 1% screwing common people, setting up tent cities may be a much more pointed way to draw attention to what has happened to so many… having to live in tents or cars and losing jobs.

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