Infidelity - Page 6

Soft*Silver · 03-27-2010, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jet

She's gorgeous; brilliant, level and has million things going for her....any man who's a real man would die for that and he's nothing but a sleaze ass fuckin' baby who was nothing without her. Prick. My .02

I am so appalled by the ideology that comes with the attitude that a man has to be out of his mind to cheat on a pretty woman. A REAL man knows when he has gravy on his taters. A REAL man knows when he cant do better.
A REAL man gets his "dues" regarding women..he gets the cream of the crop and so he would be a mad hatter if he cheated on his "prize" or "trophy wife"...

well, for all us plain girls, us Susan Boyles and Kathy Bates kind of girls, we might not be the Sandra Bullocks of the world but we sure do deserve respect and honesty, fidelity and love in our relationships TOO. And any man who would cheat on us, us salt of the earth kind of gals, then they arent anymore of a REAL man than Jesse is. In fact, REAL isnt the term at all. INGRATE would be more like it. Cuz it doesnt matter if the woman he is with is a beauty queen or a plain gal..what matters is HIS character, not her looks...

(damn..this set me off...and I know Jet doesnt deserve me flooding all over his statement. Sometimes we posters pick our words without knowing people can hear so much more than whats intended by them...)

apretty · 03-27-2010, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by softness

Kathy Bates kind of girls,

i think kathy bates is beautiful--frequently she's un-prettified to portray a strong character but i wouldn't describe her as plain. she definitely has an 'it factor' that radiates and resonates with her fans.

...but she's frequently remembered as her 'misery' character which i think speaks to her broad range (and compelling performance) as an actress, not that she's "plain".

Soft*Silver · 03-27-2010, 04:19 PM

plain, as in not made up, as in simple expression of features and not over glammed. I think she is beautiful, myself. Her beauty is honest. Its why I chose her to play me in a movie, in another thread.

adorable · 03-30-2010, 10:09 AM

I have been cheated on several times. It has never seemed to matter if I was skinny or fat. Rich or poor. If my hair was perfect or if I never complained. It didn't seem to matter how often we had sex or how well I cooked dinner either. It did seem to be a character flaw in each one of them. That flaw that allows you to lie to the person who you claim to love more then any other. IF you are willing to sneak around, lie, lie more to cover up those lies, hide your phone, cover up credit card charges ~ go through all of that trouble to fuck around with someone who you, generally are quick to say doesn't matter ON someone you supposedly love ~ what on earth does that say about your character? Instead of putting all of that effort into fixing whatever is wrong with your relationship - cheating is what? easier? It's easier than just leaving the relationship? Easier for who? It solves what? I don't get it. Really.

I did blame myself. Sometimes it's hard not to. But the truth is that people will do what they're going to do. All anyone has is their word. Having been cheated on so many times still effects me. That fear that you have no control over another person who may not have control over themselves - it causes tapes to play in my head. I hate that. You are forced to trust people, even if you say you "don't trust anyone." When they say they are going to work - you still assume they are actually going to work. Who would lie about that? Well, I've met those fuckers. I know what people are capable of - and that pain isn't anything that I am in any hurry to experience again.

But what can you do? Nothing. No matter how perfect you are. No matter how successful you are. No matter how nice you are. It has nothing to do with YOU. It has everything to do with THEM. People either have character, integrity and respect (for themselves, you and your relationship) or they don't. All you can do is have faith. There are times in my life right now where I start getting consumed with fear. I just stop and try my best to give it to God. That might sound hokey, but I don't know what else to do with it. lol. If there is an alternative, I'd love to know what it is....

Kobi · 03-30-2010, 11:20 AM

adorable,

I hear your pain. I dont know if there is a viable alternative that works for everyone. I know what sometimes works for me and maybe there is something in there that may be of use to you. For me, I try and deal with people and relationships in the following ways:

1. Remember that people come and go in our lives for reasons that are rarely apparent at the time.

2. People being people make all kinds of mistakes and errors in judgement for many reasons. Some of these can be very harmful, some merely an annoyance. It doesnt make them bad people but it does make me think about where, if anywhere, they belong in my life.

3. Trust is something to be earned, not given freely.

4. Actions speak louder than words and the truth lays somewhere in between.

5. Women tend to hold on to relationships long after the positives outweigh the negatives. Letting go is difficult but necessary to growth.

6. If it feels like work, there is a serious problem that needs to be addressed.

7. Always pay attention to your gut and the red flags it sees. We have senses and intuition for a reason.

8. Don't enter into commitments easily. It is easy to get caught up in the heat of the moment or the joy of something new. Take a step back and evaluate more carefully.

9. Choose wisely. Who we are attracted to and who fits in our lives are not necessarily the same person. Reminds me of that Amy Irving movie where she is attracted to the artist but a better fit with the pickle guy. The artist is wild, exciting, unpredictable. The pickle guy is normal, stable, and boring.

10. Always take responsibility. There are no guarantees, no certainties in life. We have control over us and the decisions we make. We shape our lives and the experiences we have. Its a life long growth experience. There will be ups and downs, good times and sucky times, but in the end, what matters is living as the person we want to be. All the experiences we have are merely stepping stones to our developing that person.

11. If 1-10 dont work.....call Uncle Guido....he has a more rudementary sense of justice.

Apocalipstic · 03-30-2010, 12:33 PM

Honesty and RESPECT.

Sachita · 03-30-2010, 12:50 PM

I agree with some here... its not about sex but deception. I can handle just about anything that comes at me. I can even shift my sails and reach great compromise with people but the moment I am deceived I walk away.

In relationships people expect too much from each other or they enter into a relationship 1/2 way never really investing fully. It's all or nothing and no doubt someone will fall short or someone will step away to fulfill a need. Right or wrong its a personal agenda and rarely has anything to do with the one getting hurt.

This is why relationships are hard for me. I'm good, fair, compromising, etc until someone crowds me or tries to forced my nature. Then I shut down.

I think Tiger is emotionally and spiritually immature. It has nothing to do with his wife or sexual addiction. The most pleasure he's ever had, or learned to have is to seek, hunt, conquer, - he just hasn't learn to be a man yet.

The_Lady_Snow · 03-30-2010, 01:14 PM

I am a little perturbed by the plain girls thing... Really? I feel I am plain and know I am the gravy on the taters as you so put it...

We can plainly see these famous women who are being cheated on are what one could label above average in looks..

In reality these dudes have no moral character, no matter how pretty they were it did not keep their dick in their pants and somewhere between the first stroke and 3rd grunt the morals, well those went flying out the window...

Real man my ass, these guys were just looking for another place to bust a nut

UofMfan · 03-30-2010, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow

I am a little perturbed by the plain girls thing... Really? I feel I am plain and know I am the gravy on the taters as you so put it...

...Real man my ass, these guys were just looking for another place to bust a nut

I totally agree.

And excuse me, Kathy Bates plain?

The_Lady_Snow · 03-30-2010, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by UofMfan

I totally agree.

And excuse me, Kathy Bates plain?

Right???

SuperFemme · 03-30-2010, 01:31 PM

plain. real man. real woman. cheaters. sex addicts.

i'm moving to canada. nobody cheats there because they all have medical coverage.

UofMfan · 03-30-2010, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperFemme

plain. real man. real woman. cheaters. sex addicts.

i'm moving to canada. nobody cheats there because they all have medical coverage.

Too funny!

Apocalipstic · 03-30-2010, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperFemme

plain. real man. real woman. cheaters. sex addicts.

i'm moving to canada. nobody cheats there because they all have medical coverage.

I have to admit that the "sex addict" thing makes me laugh.

WILDCAT · 03-30-2010, 05:09 PM

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4P_5EWjVNr4&feature=related"]YouTube- Culture Club live Do you really want to hurt me[/ame]

*Oh... I don't feel Tiger's personal life or "affairs" is any of my business. I wish healing for that family though, however it turns out. And the same for Sandra and all wounded people who have been hurt this way. Very painful, betrayal is...

Wildcat

Sachita · 03-30-2010, 05:30 PM

I'm loving Lady Snow's comment about gravy on taters! great!

I'm easy to a point. If you want someone else then have at it but leave me be.

Martina · 03-30-2010, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew, Jr.

It's funny you ladies both spoke up. From a guys pov, I really thought this was about a guy cheating. I think in society you see more of men cheating than women. And if women stray...it goes un-noticed or isn't focused upon.

You're kidding, right? Let's have a seance and discuss this with all the women killed by their boyfriends or husbands who found out they were cheating or who thought they were.

sweetcali · 03-30-2010, 07:58 PM

plain??????????????? ~~~~~ splain lucy

real man???????? ~~~~~ splain lucy

This seriously befuddles me.

sweetcali

Martina · 03-31-2010, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew, Jr.

It's funny you ladies both spoke up. From a guys pov, I really thought this was about a guy cheating. I think in society you see more of men cheating than women. And if women stray...it goes un-noticed or isn't focused upon.

i am still fuming about this. i mean, do we share the same planet? i don't get it. How many women are killed a YEAR, i wonder, based on accusations of infidelity? i still can't get over it, that i even saw this on this site. It's damaging to ME to hear things like this expressed, things that i thought most people knew better than to say.

Dylan · 03-31-2010, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jet

I have cheated and i have been cheated on, so I don't do relationships anymore. The thing about that scum ass Jesse James is that he was never man enough to handle her success. He's weak enough to act out being shown up by her limelight and tremendous success. She's gorgeous; brilliant, level and has million things going for her....any man who's a real man would die for that and he's nothing but a sleaze ass fuckin' baby who was nothing without her. Prick. My .02

Here's my thing about outsiders pontificating on celebrity relationships

Do you know these people personally? Or are you basing all of your 'knowledge' on what you see in the media?

Who's to say she's not a raging maniac bitch? Who's to say she's not controlling, manipulative evil heinous?

This is something that just always bugs the crap outta me. It started with that whole Hugh Jackman incident (is that the one who hired the hooker a few years back?)

Just because a woman is deemed attractive and successful and "America's Sweetheart" (this year) doesn't mean she's All That.

I mean, I'm not condoning cheating, but for realz, this Poor Sandy crap is just over the top.

And The Poor HughJackman'sWife (whatever the hell her name is) crap was over the top too.

"Oh, my god, how could anyone cheat on Sandy"...well, maybe she's evil. We don't know, we don't have to live with her. We get to see her *acting* face whenever she's filmed or shown walking down the street, or drinking a cup of coffee. She makes her money off of presenting a Fabu Demeanor. For that kind of money, I'd smile at people too. But behind closed doors, we don't know what goes on.

How do you know she's brilliant? Seriously? How do you know she's got a million things going for her? How do you know she's not heinous to live with?

What? Cuz they dress her up all pretty and shit, and make her sparkly?

Does that mean un-gorgeous women *deserve* to get cheated on? I just don't get it.

And On Top Of That...Who The Hell Cares If Jesse Fucked Every Woman In The Country? Who Cares Who Tiger Fucks? WHY Is This Even News?,
Dylan...seriously hates the "How Could Anyone Cheat On Someone I Don't Know" crap

SuperFemme · 03-31-2010, 10:47 AM

I can't believe you just compared the Wolverine with Hugh Grant.

j

Hugh Grant:

Hugh Jackman:

03-27-2010, 04:19 PM	#103
SoftSilver Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: femme Preferred Pronoun?: she Relationship Status: Married Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: rose cottage Posts: 5,592 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 8,948 Thanked 15,908 Times in 4,062 Posts Rep Power*: 21474857	plain, as in not made up, as in simple expression of features and not over glammed. I think she is beautiful, myself. Her beauty is honest. Its why I chose her to play me in a movie, in another thread. __________________ Pole bachit, a lis chuye. The field sees, the forest hears

03-30-2010, 11:20 AM	#105
Kobi Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: Biological female. Lesbian. Relationship Status: Happy Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Hanging out in the Atlantic. Posts: 9,234 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 9,840 Thanked 34,636 Times in 7,642 Posts Rep Power: 21474861	adorable, I hear your pain. I dont know if there is a viable alternative that works for everyone. I know what sometimes works for me and maybe there is something in there that may be of use to you. For me, I try and deal with people and relationships in the following ways: 1. Remember that people come and go in our lives for reasons that are rarely apparent at the time. 2. People being people make all kinds of mistakes and errors in judgement for many reasons. Some of these can be very harmful, some merely an annoyance. It doesnt make them bad people but it does make me think about where, if anywhere, they belong in my life. 3. Trust is something to be earned, not given freely. 4. Actions speak louder than words and the truth lays somewhere in between. 5. Women tend to hold on to relationships long after the positives outweigh the negatives. Letting go is difficult but necessary to growth. 6. If it feels like work, there is a serious problem that needs to be addressed. 7. Always pay attention to your gut and the red flags it sees. We have senses and intuition for a reason. 8. Don't enter into commitments easily. It is easy to get caught up in the heat of the moment or the joy of something new. Take a step back and evaluate more carefully. 9. Choose wisely. Who we are attracted to and who fits in our lives are not necessarily the same person. Reminds me of that Amy Irving movie where she is attracted to the artist but a better fit with the pickle guy. The artist is wild, exciting, unpredictable. The pickle guy is normal, stable, and boring. 10. Always take responsibility. There are no guarantees, no certainties in life. We have control over us and the decisions we make. We shape our lives and the experiences we have. Its a life long growth experience. There will be ups and downs, good times and sucky times, but in the end, what matters is living as the person we want to be. All the experiences we have are merely stepping stones to our developing that person. 11. If 1-10 dont work.....call Uncle Guido....he has a more rudementary sense of justice. __________________

03-30-2010, 12:33 PM	#106
Apocalipstic Pink Confection How Do You Identify?: Femme Preferred Pronoun?: She, Her, Ma'am Relationship Status: Dating Myself Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Nashville Posts: 4,266 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 17,195 Thanked 11,362 Times in 2,838 Posts Rep Power: 21474856	Honesty and RESPECT. __________________

03-30-2010, 12:50 PM	#107
Sachita Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Alpha Femme Preferred Pronoun?: Goddess Relationship Status: Completely in love Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Southern Virginia Posts: 3,225 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 2,564 Thanked 8,994 Times in 2,247 Posts Rep Power: 21474855	I agree with some here... its not about sex but deception. I can handle just about anything that comes at me. I can even shift my sails and reach great compromise with people but the moment I am deceived I walk away. In relationships people expect too much from each other or they enter into a relationship 1/2 way never really investing fully. It's all or nothing and no doubt someone will fall short or someone will step away to fulfill a need. Right or wrong its a personal agenda and rarely has anything to do with the one getting hurt. This is why relationships are hard for me. I'm good, fair, compromising, etc until someone crowds me or tries to forced my nature. Then I shut down. I think Tiger is emotionally and spiritually immature. It has nothing to do with his wife or sexual addiction. The most pleasure he's ever had, or learned to have is to seek, hunt, conquer, - he just hasn't learn to be a man yet. __________________ You either like me or you don't. It took me Twenty-something years to learn how to love myself, I don't have that kinda time to convince somebody else. ~ Daniel Franzese

03-30-2010, 01:14 PM	#108
The_Lady_Snow MILLION $$$ PUSSY How Do You Identify?: Kinky, Raw, Perverted, Uber Queer Alpha Femme Preferred Pronoun?: Iconic Ms. Relationship Status: Keeper of 3, only one has the map to my freckles Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: La Reina del Sur Posts: 22,488 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 32,231 Thanked 80,081 Times in 15,669 Posts Rep Power: 21474874	I am a little perturbed by the plain girls thing... Really? I feel I am plain and know I am the gravy on the taters as you so put it... We can plainly see these famous women who are being cheated on are what one could label above average in looks.. In reality these dudes have no moral character, no matter how pretty they were it did not keep their dick in their pants and somewhere between the first stroke and 3rd grunt the morals, well those went flying out the window... Real man my ass, these guys were just looking for another place to bust a nut __________________ "If you’re going to play these dirty games of ours, then you might as well indulge completely. It’s all about turning back into an animal and that’s the beauty of it. Place your guilt on the sidewalk and take a blow torch to it (guilt is usually worthless anyway). Be perverted, be filthy, do things that mannered people shouldn’t do. If you’re going to be gross then go for it and don’t wimp out."---Master Aiden

03-30-2010, 10:09 AM	#104
adorable Member How Do You Identify?: Sarcastically Preferred Pronoun?: She Relationship Status: Unavailable Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Home of the Yankee's Posts: 752 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 1,708 Thanked 2,644 Times in 590 Posts Rep Power: 12725119	I have been cheated on several times. It has never seemed to matter if I was skinny or fat. Rich or poor. If my hair was perfect or if I never complained. It didn't seem to matter how often we had sex or how well I cooked dinner either. It did seem to be a character flaw in each one of them. That flaw that allows you to lie to the person who you claim to love more then any other. IF you are willing to sneak around, lie, lie more to cover up those lies, hide your phone, cover up credit card charges ~ go through all of that trouble to fuck around with someone who you, generally are quick to say doesn't matter ON someone you supposedly love ~ what on earth does that say about your character? Instead of putting all of that effort into fixing whatever is wrong with your relationship - cheating is what? easier? It's easier than just leaving the relationship? Easier for who? It solves what? I don't get it. Really. I did blame myself. Sometimes it's hard not to. But the truth is that people will do what they're going to do. All anyone has is their word. Having been cheated on so many times still effects me. That fear that you have no control over another person who may not have control over themselves - it causes tapes to play in my head. I hate that. You are forced to trust people, even if you say you "don't trust anyone." When they say they are going to work - you still assume they are actually going to work. Who would lie about that? Well, I've met those fuckers. I know what people are capable of - and that pain isn't anything that I am in any hurry to experience again. But what can you do? Nothing. No matter how perfect you are. No matter how successful you are. No matter how nice you are. It has nothing to do with YOU. It has everything to do with THEM. People either have character, integrity and respect (for themselves, you and your relationship) or they don't. All you can do is have faith. There are times in my life right now where I start getting consumed with fear. I just stop and try my best to give it to God. That might sound hokey, but I don't know what else to do with it. lol. If there is an alternative, I'd love to know what it is....

03-30-2010, 01:31 PM	#111
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03-30-2010, 05:30 PM	#115
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03-30-2010, 07:58 PM	#117
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03-31-2010, 10:47 AM	#120
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