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04-05-2010, 11:13 PM
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So, Snow, if some people LIKE traditional roles of masculinity and femininity in their relationships then they're neanderthals who stifle others, because they haven't evolved yet?
Am I reading you correctly?, Dylan |
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04-06-2010, 09:35 AM
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Well Reverend since you asked so nicely... I have felt this way when attempted to be shoved down my throat, or somehow I am less than femme because I do not accept these roles that are not part of who *I* am.. So yes when it came down to it, I have said hey, knock it out with your caveman ways and stop stifling me... If you don't like how I am and how I like things in my world.. Step off.. That has been my experience and how I deal with it... *I* don't like being confined make sense?
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04-06-2010, 11:11 AM
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But let's say, I'm ovah here livin' Mahhh Life with Mahhh Woman, and we stick to traditional roles of masculine/feminine...and we're both quite happy doin' so...livin' in bliss Does that make me a knuckle-draggin' Neanderthal? Does it make Mahhh Woman an Edith Bunker who "just can't think for herself"? I mean, yeah, I think we've ALL dated that one (or two or three) random person who has some ideas of masculine/feminine that don't jive with our own ideas, and I'm sure we've all felt limited/stifled/put upon in those situations where we're told we're not butch/femme enough for ThatPerson. But in this particular conversation, I didn't see anyone say anything about you (personally) aside from Liam saying something that maybe you don't partner with those people who are into (what's deemed) "traditional" masculinity. I mean, I kinda get the same idea from all of your posts. If it's not your cuppa, then it's not your cuppa. If it is your cuppa, then it is. But based on your posts (throughout the years), I too have gotten the sense that you don't live your life following 'traditional' ideas of masculinity/femininity. I mean, you've said that a number of times in this thread, no? Am I misreading you? I didn't see where anyone said that's a bad thing...it just is what it is. But (again) if me and mine wanna have at all the "traditional" stuff, does that make us cave people who don't have a working neuron in our brains? Dylan |
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04-06-2010, 11:23 AM
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I am not talking about you, or him or ALLLLLLLLLLL peoples.. What I am talking about is the people who do act like this, who do try to girly me up more, who call me a pet name, who are uncomfortable with me and my strength, who super impose their traditional bullshit on me so that *they* can thump their chests....
It's out there it exists... I guess I thought we were discussing in this thread hence my experiences put out there. Maybe I misread....
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04-06-2010, 12:39 PM
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04-06-2010, 01:25 PM
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I'm sure just about anyone would agree with you from a personal perspective that whenver One is subjected to Another's impositions, One is not going to be too happy unless One agrees with Another's stance. I mean, I certainly didn't like the times I've dated someone who had ideas that didn't coincide with my own on "This is what a butch does, This is what a femme does". Honestly (without trying to sound alarmist), I think/wonder if some people sometimes use these statements as 'weapons' (term used loosely). I think they can be used hurtfully. I also think/wonder if some people don't use these ideas as a means to actually break off the relationship without actually having to be adult and just break it off...you know what I'm sayin'? Now, I'm not saying that's an 'all the time/every time' kind of thing, but I am saying, I do think it happens. But then sometimes, "That's why they call it dating", yanno? Dylan |
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Here is the thing Rev... It does not just happen in dating... Some folks throw their masculinity about like it's their job or someone assigned them to this.. Am I making sense? There are guys out there who will not be talked to by an assertive woman or a woman who holds power because they are to masculine to be talked to in that manner or my favorite they will cutesify you and give you a pet name so that they are comfy and can talk to you like a guy talks to a girl... I don't think your woman is anything like Mrs Bunker cause well that woman put up with alot of shit from fucking Archie... I don't think you are anywhere near an Archie and if you were, I see the Mrs wacking you with a shoe... Do you guys have what seems like a traditional exchange when our, yes, but what I see is a guy, treating his woman right as they should, cause if I was a guy and my girl was giving me the allowance to dive into her sugary goodness, fuck yeah I would be all over the place making sure she was comfy and catered to.. That's just me though... 
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Thinking that an asshole is an asshole, no matter the energy or gender. When I look at my relationships and even at my parents, I see a varied constellation with each partner being able to be who they are. Sure, issues/problems existed, but so did the will to overcome them. I am a very fortunate person. This just isn't how many people have experienced relationships. And there is always work to be done on myself. There is a very big difference between integrating what gets put in the traditional pile of roles and how people adapt these to their relationship. I certainly knew in my last relationship that the femme I was with was no door mat! No way! Nor was I (I tend to be a care-taker, which has not always served me well). Sure, we had some of the traditional stuff going on... but there was a clear line with both of us respecting each other and ourselves. Thinking that any of us could end up in an abusive situation no matter how we put this together. |
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Yes, I see what you're saying now. This All Makes Much More Sense Now, Dylan |
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Could that BE more transparent? You are trying to remove any political implications at ALL.
It feels DIFFERENT as a person with gender that includes feminine attributes to be silenced or told how she should BE Or behave in the world. It's not just personal. There is a political history that resonates in our BONES. Telling me how to be a femme is not that different than the stuff i heard as a child -- how to act like a lady or how to be a good girl. The same implicit threats are usually involved too. No one will like you. You won't get attention. Blah blah. i can't speak for Snow, but that's what her posts meant to me. Quote:
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