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Old 05-07-2010, 09:23 AM   #1
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Uh... what obvious?
what is obvious is the pandering to fear via racialization and racist, ignorant posturing and the promise of TERRORIST acts for those who fit the physical (racial) features of their rants.

FYI, I did not comment right away ... I have learned that one can be severely attacked for mentioning the "R" word. As a relative newbie, I believe that it is wiser for me to "listen" to comments before weighing in with my own. Not so much as to be safer, as if comments of this nature can ever be considered "safe", but to flesh out the thinking of those already established here and to find a way to enter the discussion.

Hopefully, this clarifies what I mean by obvious. If not, you (the general "you") can be pissy ... I don't mind, really. Or, you can post something specific that you object to in my natterings.
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what is obvious is the pandering to fear via racialization and racist, ignorant posturing and the promise of TERRORIST acts for those who fit the physical (racial) features of their rants.
I thought you meant something else, as the entire point of the ad is to pander to fear via racism.
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Here's an ad that is running in Arkansas right now against Bill Halter:


[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vdqUPIq9Nk"]YouTube- Racist Anti-Halter Ad[/nomedia]

There have been several uproars about the racism in the ad from multiple groups here and the paper has written several articles about it.
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Here's an ad that is running in Arkansas right now against Bill Halter:


YouTube- Racist Anti-Halter Ad

There have been several uproars about the racism in the ad from multiple groups here and the paper has written several articles about it.
It's not only racist, it's a lie. linkyloo

THE FACTS: The claims center on WebMethods Inc., a company wher e Halter once served on the board of directors. Halter left the WebMethods board in 2006.

Although the company said it saved costs by opening a Bangalore office, it's a stretch to say the firm shipped American jobs overseas. The company said in a 2006 filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission that it had cut costs by increasing the proportion of its product development staff based in Bangalore, India. The company filings cited by Lincoln's campaign, however, do not refer to the loss of any American jobs in connection with opening the Bangalore office.

Cheryl Hawkins, spokeswoman for Software AG, which owns WebMethods, declined to comment directly on Lincoln's claims. Hawkins said the vast majority of its jobs have stayed in the United States and said the Bangalore facility was opened before Software AG acquired WebMethods.
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the name given people of Middle Eastern descent - which somehow became carried over from that of people from South Asia, the Sikhs - were labeled "diaper heads" or "towel heads" by the stupid and ill-informed. I suspect that this ad relates to such derogations of such persons.

Oh totally understand the connection, just never thought I would see something so literaly racist.

Unbelievable!
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The scary part is that people will vote for him....
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My jaw is still dropped!

This is just absurdity on a grand scale! What state is this? (Maybe I missed it...)

EDITED: Florida, District 8


I haven't been in Florida for more than 4 years.

I didn't do it.

Disgusting is right.
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I went threw the 60's with all this crap of asshatism,I had hoped over the years we had evolved into a better world,for some of us .yes we did for others like theis racist pig..no.Far to many will pay the price for his ignorance and bigatry.I hope ppl will come to a right thinking mind when they are ready to vote.
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Oh totally understand the connection, just never thought I would see something so literaly racist.

Unbelievable!
yes, it really is. looks like those white sheets are coming out of the closet and getting dusted off for reappearance. sigh. It is, and it has been building for some time, a very scary time in this country.
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what is obvious is the pandering to fear via racialization and racist, ignorant posturing and the promise of TERRORIST acts for those who fit the physical (racial) features of their rants.

FYI, I did not comment right away ... I have learned that one can be severely attacked for mentioning the "R" word. As a relative newbie, I believe that it is wiser for me to "listen" to comments before weighing in with my own. Not so much as to be safer, as if comments of this nature can ever be considered "safe", but to flesh out the thinking of those already established here and to find a way to enter the discussion.

Hopefully, this clarifies what I mean by obvious. If not, you (the general "you") can be pissy ... I don't mind, really. Or, you can post something specific that you object to in my natterings.

It's OK, It was very racist. A TOWEL?

I know we can be a tough group!
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the name given people of Middle Eastern descent - which somehow became carried over from that of people from South Asia, the Sikhs - were labeled "diaper heads" or "towel heads" by the stupid and ill-informed. I suspect that this ad relates to such derogations of such persons.
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Well I, for one, am very happy about this ad. I now know how to spot a terrorist.....its everyone except the semi-albino old man! AND I also learned that should I ever see a man with a towel on his head, duct tape over his mouth, and a bomb strapped to his chest trying to board a plane, I should alert security IMMEDIATELY. THANKS DAN!!

Unfortunately, I wish I could say I am surprised at this ad, however, the only thing that surprises me is that no one made something similar sooner. Hate and fearmongering are political tools, and always will be. That's why we had GW for four more years, why the Patriot Act was signed, why DADT is still in existence, why Prop 8 passed, what's going on in Arizona....the list goes on and on.
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Well I, for one, am very happy about this ad. I now know how to spot a terrorist.....its everyone except the semi-albino old man! AND I also learned that should I ever see a man with a towel on his head, duct tape over his mouth, and a bomb strapped to his chest trying to board a plane, I should alert security IMMEDIATELY. THANKS DAN!!

Unfortunately, I wish I could say I am surprised at this ad, however, the only thing that surprises me is that no one made something similar sooner. Hate and fearmongering are political tools, and always will be. That's why we had GW for four more years, why the Patriot Act was signed, why DADT is still in existence, why Prop 8 passed, what's going on in Arizona....the list goes on and on.
I better remember not to have tape over my mouth if my hair is wet in the future. Grin! and no bombs in the shower! Check!

I really am surprised its so blatant and literal.

It is the 60's again in so many ways.
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I've been trying to compose a rational, intelligent post on this thread, but I just ... words just escape me. Political consulting and speechwriting is a lucrative freelance sideline for me...but I just shudder to think what Democrats and reasonable Republicans (i.e. my clients) will be facing this fall. Good thing I am limiting myself to 4 candidates and one ballot issue.

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Yeah, I it's a political ad. Just very,very poorly done.
Stereotyping is scary. I think someone named Hitler did it first.
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Wow....disturbed and pissed off. First of all how the hell are they going to sensor the word bitch and fuck on television but show this on a free television...How the heck does that fly. Secondly who is this ignorant ass....this man needs to be taken out back somewhere. Also as mentioned how are these actors even choosing to participate in such a degrading commercial. This is the bottom of the barrel and exactly why there is some much hate and continued racial tension in the world. I expect more from anyone but this is truly uncalled for....Shame on him!
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Now this is a PSA. I have to admit I LOL'd huge at the end.
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Thank you Linus. That was the best friggin PSA EVER!!!!!!
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