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[jewelofnj]

I hope my relationship with someone who has come out trans FTM and dating a transitioned FTM can be supportive to others in the same situations.

[MsTinkerbelly]

Originally Posted by jewelofnj

I hope my relationship with someone who has come out trans FTM and dating a transitioned FTM can be supportive to others in the same situations.

I don't mean to be argumentative, but we have plenty of queer folks here who can help us with this experience. Unless you are a queer woman who has had your lesbian lover transition into a man, you cannot possibly know how we feel.

[jewelofnj]

Although I may call myself heterosexual I went through the transition with my former partner so, yes I am queer. Nothing wrong with that nor being hetero. I have been looking for a place to be a part of and hope to learn from all of you and share what "little" you may think I know.

You aren't being argumentative simply protective and I totally understand and respect your doubt in why I am here. I hope we can be friends and enjoy
time on this site.

Have a day filled with joy!

[MsTinkerbelly]

Originally Posted by jewelofnj

Although I may call myself heterosexual I went through the transition with my former partner so, yes I am queer. Nothing wrong with that nor being hetero. I have been looking for a place to be a part of and hope to learn from all of you and share what "little" you may think I know.

You aren't being argumentative simply protective and I totally understand and respect your doubt in why I am here. I hope we can be friends and enjoy
time on this site.

Have a day filled with joy!

I hope you find the community you are looking for; welcome to the Planet!

[DapperButch]

Originally Posted by MsTinkerbelly

Oh.

So you are a hetrosexual woman, on a queer website, hoping to give us the benefits of your experience?

Ummmm, ok.

Originally Posted by jewelofnj

I hope my relationship with someone who has come out trans FTM and dating a transitioned FTM can be supportive to others in the same situations.

Originally Posted by MsTinkerbelly

I don't mean to be argumentative, but we have plenty of queer folks here who can help us with this experience. Unless you are a queer woman who has had your lesbian lover transition into a man, you cannot possibly know how we feel.

MsTinkerbelly, last I heard women who date FTMs are allowed on this site. Welcomed on this site. I don't remember reading anywhere that the expectation is that people at BFP who date FTMs had to have been with said FTM prior to their transition. Oh, AND that said FTM had to have identified as lesbian PRIOR to their transition. You know that a number of FTMs never identified as "lesbians". Just like many of our butch and femme friends here don't, and never have, identified "lesbians", even though they have loved female bodied people.

People don't need to PROVE that they belong here by talking about their history of sexual partners, either.

I see that you were cordial in the end (I think you were being genuine), but I must admit, I am surprised at you, MsTinkerbelly!

[MsTinkerbelly]

Originally Posted by DapperButch

MsTinkerbelly, last I heard women who date FTMs are allowed on this site. Welcomed on this site. I don't remember reading anywhere that the expectation is that people at BFP who date FTMs had to have been with said FTM prior to their transition. Oh, AND that said FTM had to have identified as lesbian PRIOR to their transition. You know that a number of FTMs never identified as "lesbians". Just like many of our butch and femme friends here don't, and never have, identified "lesbians", even though they have loved female bodied people.

People don't need to PROVE that they belong here by talking about their history of sexual partners, either.

I see that you were cordial in the end (I think you were being genuine), but I must admit, I am surprised at you, MsTinkerbelly!

When did you become a moderator?

I am really offended by this Dapper, really offended. How dare you chastise me, or question my motives? HOW FUCKING DARE YOU!!!!!!!

[DapperButch]

Originally Posted by MsTinkerbelly

When did you become a moderator?

I am really offended by this Dapper, really offended. How dare you chastise me, or question my motives? HOW FUCKING DARE YOU!!!!!!!

Wow.

I was not trying to be a moderator. You were suggesting to her that she did not belong here, and I am suggesting that you are incorrect.

With your logic, anyone who dates ME or any FTM, who hasn't dated a "lesbian" in the past doesn't belong here. Actually, you were suggesting the "rules" are even narrower than that. You were suggesting that the people who belong here that date FTMs have to have dated a lesbian who transitioned to FTM. That is news to me.

Am I incorrect? Is that not what you said? I responded to quotes.

[MsTinkerbelly]

Originally Posted by DapperButch

Wow.

I was not trying to be a moderator. You were suggesting to her that she did not belong here, and I am suggesting that you are incorrect.

With your logic, anyone who dates ME or any FTM, who hasn't dated a "lesbian" in the past doesn't belong here. Actually, you were suggesting the "rules" are even narrower than that. You were suggesting that the people who belong here that date FTMs have to have dated a lesbian who transitioned to FTM. That is news to me.

Am I incorrect? Is that not what you said? I responded to quotes.

I do not owe you or anyone other than jewel an explanation, and she and I are good. Now, if you go back to minding your own business, we will be just fine.

[jewelofnj]

Actually I am out of here.