What are your three non-negotiables (in a relationship)?

storyspinner70 · 01-09-2016, 01:51 AM

1. Must have a good voice: You can look like a supermodel and sound horrible and I'm not having it. No. How things sound matter a lot to me. Just couldn't do it. I got super lucky in that regard.

2. Have to be clever or intelligent: Again, I got lucky and my butch is both.

That's pretty much my two main requirements. The rest will sift out with time and we'll work it out as it comes up.

lucid · 01-30-2016, 06:48 AM

My favorite response to this question is "H.O.T."

H. = Housing
O. = Occupation
T. = Transportation

my response is more nuanced, but hot is a good start!

imperfect_cupcake · 01-30-2016, 01:28 PM

After some rethinking its

1) patience. If you want instant intensity and passion, it's not me. I want to slowly get to know someone before I decide, before you decide, what we want to do. I may feel a deep attraction, but for me that has never proved a good basis for anything. I have felt deep attraction for people who have turned out to be narcissists, or alcoholics, or addicts, or people with untreated BPD co morbid with bipolar.
Just because I feel attraction does not mean I will go forward with it. And many times attraction takes me a a while to feel because I'm emotionally slow and reserved. If I'm poked at, the only emotion I reveal is irritation and anger.

You have to have the patience. It's ok to be unsure yourself. It's ok to take your time to decide if we are good for each other. I get it. And for the love of fuck, we don't have to have a conversation about it every time we get together, or every time we talk.

It's also ok that we don't do everything according to societal dictates in what "couples should do". And that you have the calm patience to allow what we do to evolve slowly, organically and without pushing.

2) humour. Our humour has to match. I can't stress how important that is.

3) confidence. You are confident enough to give me my independance and know that you still take centre stage in a romantic view. Work comes first for me, my career is my meaning, my love and a passion. It keeps me sane and happy. I won't put my career at risk.
so there are things I can't do that other people can because they aren't a Health Worker under scrutiny by a government agency.
This doesn't threaten you.
My independance doesn't threaten you or make you feel small or unimportant. You "get" that about me. You understand how fiercely loyal I am and that it doesn't have to translate into constant attention/reassurance cycles. You don't pick arguments to get my attention, to get me to talk to you when I'm busy or when I need quiet, down time.
Coming up and just laying next to me and reading your own book, watching a movie with headphones on, or writing your own stuff, with an ankle over mine is just fine.
But sometimes I also want alone time.
And not seeing me for a few days, you aren't constantly worried about what I'm up to, what I am doing, why haven't I contacted you in the last five hours.
Confidence.

kittygrrl · 01-30-2016, 03:33 PM

Discover how compatible the two of you are

December 10, 2013
how-secure-do-you-feel

According to the Enneagram, you can find out how compatible you are with your partner quite simply by checking out what they called your “Instincts”

We are each endowed with 3 specific instincts that are necessary for our survival. While we have all 3 instincts in us, one of them is our dominant focus. Then we have a second instinct that is used to support the dominant instinct, as well as a third one, which is least developed – a real blind spot in our personality and our values.

These form what they call our “stack”.

Our instinct priority has a huge impact on how compatible we feel with our partner.

If two people have the same first instinct, they are much more likely to get along easily since their basic values and outlook on life are congruent.

Conversely, if your stack is completely opposite to your partner’s, then you can expect tensions and conflicts. Each of you will usually be trying to convert the other.

Most importantly, a healthy balance of all instincts is important. So, if yours is a different stack to your partners, rather than fight about it, you can seek to understand and acknowledge the wisdom in each, learning from each other, and how compatible are youcreating a better balance for both of you. Here are the 3 Instincts:

1. Self Preservation Instinct.

People of this Instinctual type are focused on enhancing their personal security and physical comfort, and can be preoccupied with the basic survival needs, for example, money, food, housing, health, physical safety and comfort. Being safe and physically comfortable are priorities, and they will often bring their supplies with them.

When entering a room, they will tend to notice lighting, uncomfortable chairs, the room temperature, when the coffee break will be, and whether they will like the food provided.

These people often have issues connected with food and drink, either overdoing it or having strict dietary requirements.

They tend also to be the most practical in the sense of taking care of basic life necessities like paying the bills, maintaining the home and workplace, acquiring useful skills.

If this is an instinct that you have least developed, you may not eat or sleep properly, and can lack the drive to accumulate wealth or property, or even care about such matters. Also time and resource management will typically be neglected, often with seriously detrimental effects to your own careers, social life and material well being.

2. Intimacy / Sexual Instinct.

People of this type have a strong desire for intensity of experience and intimacy. This intensity could be found in great conversation or a great movie. The direct riveting gaze is the dead give- away for people of this type.

When they enter a room they gravitate toward people they feel magnetized to, regardless of the person’s potential for helping them or their social standing. It is as if they are looking for the juice.

These people can be intimacy junkies, and have a strong desire to fuse with someone, often neglecting pressing obligations or even basic maintenance if they are swept up in something that has captivated them. This gives a wide ranging exploratory approach to life, but also a lack of focus on one’s own priorities.

If this is the area that is least developed, you will find you avoid intimacies as much as you can, finding ways to not get up close and personal with people.

3. Social Instinct.

People of this type are focused on their interactions with other people and with the sense of value and esteem they derive from their participation in group activities. These include work, family, hobbies and clubs, or any arena in which you can interact with others for some shared purpose. They understand their own and other peoples sense of place in the hierarchy of groups, and can desire attention, recognition, honor, success, fame, leadership and appreciation, as well as the security of being part of something larger than themselves

On entering a room, these people would immediately be aware of the power structures and subtle politics between the different people and groups. They are subconsciously focused on other’s reaction to them, particularly about whether they are being accepted or not.

They need to know what is going on in their world; they need to touch base with others to feel safe alive and energized.

In general they tend to enjoy interacting with people, but they avoid intimacy. They are the most extroverted of the types.

If you have this as your least developed instinct, you will have a lack of interest socially beyond your immediate needs, with very few friends, and will not be very interested in people. You also disregard the opinions of others very easily. You feel you do not need others and others do not need you, thus there may be frequent misunderstandings with others.

It can be interesting to find out what both your own stack is, and also that of your partners’.

This can give you some great information about whether you feel compatible or not, and what you can do about it. For more help in understanding how these forces work in your relationship, come and discover more in our relationship counselling sessions at the Hart Centre.

Gayandgray · 03-05-2016, 02:21 PM

1) no lying. 2) no cheating. 3) never hit me or you will regret it

MsTinkerbelly · 03-05-2016, 02:37 PM

Loves me
Loves my child
Thinks I rock the world

Does anything else really matter?

I'm kidding, of course there are other things:

Don't hit me
Don't fight dirty
Be kind to strangers

Chad · 03-05-2016, 03:38 PM

Always the same 3

No cheating
No lying
No drugs

I would like to add no stealing and no freeloading but it says 3.

Women are beautiful, sweet, yummy humans and that is who I want in my life.

01-09-2016, 01:51 AM	#1
storyspinner70 Member How Do You Identify?: Femme Preferred Pronoun?: She Relationship Status: Single Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: VA Posts: 355 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 1,366 Thanked 987 Times in 289 Posts Rep Power: 8681947	1. Must have a good voice: You can look like a supermodel and sound horrible and I'm not having it. No. How things sound matter a lot to me. Just couldn't do it. I got super lucky in that regard. 2. Have to be clever or intelligent: Again, I got lucky and my butch is both. That's pretty much my two main requirements. The rest will sift out with time and we'll work it out as it comes up. __________________ So plant your own gardens and decorate your own soul, instead of waiting for someone to bring you flowers. ― Jorge Luis Borges

01-30-2016, 03:33 PM	#4
kittygrrl Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: witchy Preferred Pronoun?: Fae Relationship Status: just for fun Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: near the wild mushrooms Posts: 9,468 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 21,646 Thanked 22,052 Times in 7,141 Posts Rep Power: 21474861	In browsing i found this interesting.. Discover how compatible the two of you are December 10, 2013 how-secure-do-you-feel According to the Enneagram, you can find out how compatible you are with your partner quite simply by checking out what they called your “Instincts” We are each endowed with 3 specific instincts that are necessary for our survival. While we have all 3 instincts in us, one of them is our dominant focus. Then we have a second instinct that is used to support the dominant instinct, as well as a third one, which is least developed – a real blind spot in our personality and our values. These form what they call our “stack”. Our instinct priority has a huge impact on how compatible we feel with our partner. If two people have the same first instinct, they are much more likely to get along easily since their basic values and outlook on life are congruent. Conversely, if your stack is completely opposite to your partner’s, then you can expect tensions and conflicts. Each of you will usually be trying to convert the other. Most importantly, a healthy balance of all instincts is important. So, if yours is a different stack to your partners, rather than fight about it, you can seek to understand and acknowledge the wisdom in each, learning from each other, and how compatible are youcreating a better balance for both of you. Here are the 3 Instincts: 1. Self Preservation Instinct. People of this Instinctual type are focused on enhancing their personal security and physical comfort, and can be preoccupied with the basic survival needs, for example, money, food, housing, health, physical safety and comfort. Being safe and physically comfortable are priorities, and they will often bring their supplies with them. When entering a room, they will tend to notice lighting, uncomfortable chairs, the room temperature, when the coffee break will be, and whether they will like the food provided. These people often have issues connected with food and drink, either overdoing it or having strict dietary requirements. They tend also to be the most practical in the sense of taking care of basic life necessities like paying the bills, maintaining the home and workplace, acquiring useful skills. If this is an instinct that you have least developed, you may not eat or sleep properly, and can lack the drive to accumulate wealth or property, or even care about such matters. Also time and resource management will typically be neglected, often with seriously detrimental effects to your own careers, social life and material well being. 2. Intimacy / Sexual Instinct. People of this type have a strong desire for intensity of experience and intimacy. This intensity could be found in great conversation or a great movie. The direct riveting gaze is the dead give- away for people of this type. When they enter a room they gravitate toward people they feel magnetized to, regardless of the person’s potential for helping them or their social standing. It is as if they are looking for the juice. These people can be intimacy junkies, and have a strong desire to fuse with someone, often neglecting pressing obligations or even basic maintenance if they are swept up in something that has captivated them. This gives a wide ranging exploratory approach to life, but also a lack of focus on one’s own priorities. If this is the area that is least developed, you will find you avoid intimacies as much as you can, finding ways to not get up close and personal with people. 3. Social Instinct. People of this type are focused on their interactions with other people and with the sense of value and esteem they derive from their participation in group activities. These include work, family, hobbies and clubs, or any arena in which you can interact with others for some shared purpose. They understand their own and other peoples sense of place in the hierarchy of groups, and can desire attention, recognition, honor, success, fame, leadership and appreciation, as well as the security of being part of something larger than themselves On entering a room, these people would immediately be aware of the power structures and subtle politics between the different people and groups. They are subconsciously focused on other’s reaction to them, particularly about whether they are being accepted or not. They need to know what is going on in their world; they need to touch base with others to feel safe alive and energized. In general they tend to enjoy interacting with people, but they avoid intimacy. They are the most extroverted of the types. If you have this as your least developed instinct, you will have a lack of interest socially beyond your immediate needs, with very few friends, and will not be very interested in people. You also disregard the opinions of others very easily. You feel you do not need others and others do not need you, thus there may be frequent misunderstandings with others. It can be interesting to find out what both your own stack is, and also that of your partners’. This can give you some great information about whether you feel compatible or not, and what you can do about it. For more help in understanding how these forces work in your relationship, come and discover more in our relationship counselling sessions at the Hart Centre. __________________ "We're nine meals from anarchy"" Lewis

03-05-2016, 02:21 PM	#5
Gayandgray Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Femme-ish, tomboy lesbian Preferred Pronoun?: She Relationship Status: Together a really long time Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: In my mind? On a tropical island Posts: 4,862 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 13,584 Thanked 12,885 Times in 3,081 Posts Rep Power: 21474850	1) no lying. 2) no cheating. 3) never hit me or you will regret it __________________

03-05-2016, 03:38 PM	#7
Chad Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: OFOS Stone butch Preferred Pronoun?: He Relationship Status: Loved Caregiver Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 6,164 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 11,746 Thanked 20,313 Times in 5,677 Posts Rep Power: 21474858	Non-negotiables Always the same 3 No cheating No lying No drugs I would like to add no stealing and no freeloading but it says 3. Women are beautiful, sweet, yummy humans and that is who I want in my life.

01-30-2016, 06:48 AM	#2
lucid Junior Member How Do You Identify?: femme Preferred Pronoun?: she Relationship Status: single Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: California Posts: 1 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 2 Thanked 6 Times in 1 Post Rep Power: 0	My favorite response to this question is "H.O.T." H. = Housing O. = Occupation T. = Transportation my response is more nuanced, but hot is a good start!

01-30-2016, 01:28 PM	#3
imperfect_cupcake Senior Member How Do You Identify?: feminine dolly dyke Preferred Pronoun?: Your Grace Relationship Status: I put my own care first Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: In a gauze of mystery Posts: 1,776 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 2,426 Thanked 9,712 Times in 1,611 Posts Rep Power: 21474853	After some rethinking its 1) patience. If you want instant intensity and passion, it's not me. I want to slowly get to know someone before I decide, before you decide, what we want to do. I may feel a deep attraction, but for me that has never proved a good basis for anything. I have felt deep attraction for people who have turned out to be narcissists, or alcoholics, or addicts, or people with untreated BPD co morbid with bipolar. Just because I feel attraction does not mean I will go forward with it. And many times attraction takes me a a while to feel because I'm emotionally slow and reserved. If I'm poked at, the only emotion I reveal is irritation and anger. You have to have the patience. It's ok to be unsure yourself. It's ok to take your time to decide if we are good for each other. I get it. And for the love of fuck, we don't have to have a conversation about it every time we get together, or every time we talk. It's also ok that we don't do everything according to societal dictates in what "couples should do". And that you have the calm patience to allow what we do to evolve slowly, organically and without pushing. 2) humour. Our humour has to match. I can't stress how important that is. 3) confidence. You are confident enough to give me my independance and know that you still take centre stage in a romantic view. Work comes first for me, my career is my meaning, my love and a passion. It keeps me sane and happy. I won't put my career at risk. so there are things I can't do that other people can because they aren't a Health Worker under scrutiny by a government agency. This doesn't threaten you. My independance doesn't threaten you or make you feel small or unimportant. You "get" that about me. You understand how fiercely loyal I am and that it doesn't have to translate into constant attention/reassurance cycles. You don't pick arguments to get my attention, to get me to talk to you when I'm busy or when I need quiet, down time. Coming up and just laying next to me and reading your own book, watching a movie with headphones on, or writing your own stuff, with an ankle over mine is just fine. But sometimes I also want alone time. And not seeing me for a few days, you aren't constantly worried about what I'm up to, what I am doing, why haven't I contacted you in the last five hours. Confidence.

03-05-2016, 02:37 PM	#6
MsTinkerbelly Timed Out - TOS Drama How Do You Identify?: ... Preferred Pronoun?: ... Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: ... Posts: 6,573 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 30,737 Thanked 22,907 Times in 5,017 Posts Rep Power: 0	Loves me Loves my child Thinks I rock the world Does anything else really matter? I'm kidding, of course there are other things: Don't hit me Don't fight dirty Be kind to strangers