President Obama: Policy, Presidency, and Person

[Toughy]

Re the 2010 Census: White people will no longer be such a minority. They've taken off a place for Hispanics, Latinos etc. completely. We are all supposed to check white. There isn't even an other box. How in the world is that census going to give an accurate reflection?

huh??? http://2010.census.gov/2010census/ho...ctive-form.php

question 8 is specifically about hispanic /latino/spanish identifying folks...

question 9 is about everyone else in terms of race/ethnic identity....

they even changed the order these question were asked from the 2000 Census so they will get higher numbers of hispanic/latino/spanish folks......they found out if you ask question 9 first you get fewer h/l/s folks and more white folks.......

what am I missing here???

[Toughy]

I think the 'average american' is scared shitless about a black man as President. The reason is the lack of exposure and real time frequent interaction with anyone who is not white. (I think the same thing is happening around folks who are followers of Islam but that is another thread...Obama is not Muslim, he is Christian but has a funny ass name.) You fear what you don't know.

And then there are those ignorant fucks who are just flat bigots and racists.

[SuperFemme]

Originally Posted by Toughy

huh??? http://2010.census.gov/2010census/ho...ctive-form.php

question 8 is specifically about hispanic /latino/spanish identifying folks...

question 9 is about everyone else in terms of race/ethnic identity....

they even changed the order these question were asked from the 2000 Census so they will get higher numbers of hispanic/latino/spanish folks......they found out if you ask question 9 first you get fewer h/l/s folks and more white folks.......

what am I missing here???

I didn't know that there was no form of Hispanic Race. At all. I still find it troubling.

[Martina]

This has nothing to do with the race issue.

He is the first Democrat i have voted for since Clinton (the first time). The next three elections, i voted Nader.

i will be voting third party next time. Obama's education policies are elitist, ill-considered, herd-following, cruelly Capitalist, and just plain doomed to fail.

[SuperFemme]

Originally Posted by Martina

This has nothing to do with the race issue.

He is the first Democrat i have voted for since Clinton (the first time). The next three elections, i voted Nader.

i will be voting third party next time. Obama's education policies are elitist, ill-considered, herd-following, cruelly Capitalist, and just plain doomed to fail.

Where can I find his education policies?

[Martina]

Originally Posted by SuperFemme

Where can I find his education policies?

Here's my point of view on it -- Diane Ravitch's critique -- or a short bit of it --
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ans...ry-ed-ref.html


Here's a really long NYTimes Magazine article that supports it -- http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/23/ma...pagewanted=all

[SuperFemme]

Originally Posted by Martina

Here's my point of view on it -- Diane Ravitch's critique -- or a short bit of it --
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ans...ry-ed-ref.html


Here's a really long NYTimes Magazine article that supports it -- http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/23/ma...pagewanted=all

Thank you so much.

[Martina]

Originally Posted by SuperFemme

Thank you so much.

Here's another Diane Ravitch article. i love this quote from the end -- http://www.greenchange.org/article.php?id=5672

No other nation is taking such harsh lessons from the corporate sector and applying them to their schools. No nation with successful schools ignores everything but basic skills and testing. Schools work best when teachers collaborate to help their students and strive together for common goals, not when they compete for higher scores and bonuses.

Having embraced the Republican agenda of choice, competition and accountability, the Obama administration is promoting the privatization of large segments of American education and undermining the profession of teaching. This toxic combination is the latest Big Idea in education reform. Like so many of its predecessors, it is not likely to improve education.