Presidential Slugfest 2016 - Debate Watch Party!

BullDog · 10-19-2016, 08:23 PM

I don't think Trump seems sane at all, and I think Clinton is very strong tonight.

DapperButch · 10-19-2016, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BullDog

I don't think Trump seems sane at all, and I think Clinton is very strong tonight.

I agree she is very strong. I am talking about his presentation, not even anything he is saying. He is not acting like an insane man. Nothing to do with his words. He presents as calm. That is different. That is what people have pointed out as his issue/problem. He isn't doing that this time.

I'm talking about his temperament, which is everyone's concern.

BullDog · 10-19-2016, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DapperButch

I agree she is very strong. I am talking about his presentation, not even anything he is saying. He is not acting like an insane man. Nothing to do with his words. He presents as calm. That is different. That is what people have pointed out as his issue/problem. He isn't doing that this time.

I guess we are seeing him differently then. I don't see him being calm at all. I think he is doing better than 1st debate and he isn't stalking her like at the 2nd debate, so maybe compared to those. But I think this is Clinton's strongest of the 3, even better than the 1st one - which was more Trump being bad than her being great.

Shystonefem · 10-19-2016, 08:43 PM

Tonight, Donald Trump insulted our FBI, our Dept of Justice, our State Dept and so many individuals. He had no answers to the questions, only insults.

Trump did not agree to a peaceful transfer of power. Trump lied about voter fraud. Lied about his support for the invasion of Iraq. Lied through this debate again.

He tried to maintain his cool, he lost it a few times. He did appear more calm yet without substance, how can anyone say that he is fit to be POTUS?

BTW: ISIS leaders are still in Iraq.

MsTinkerbelly · 10-19-2016, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BullDog

I guess we are seeing him differently then. I don't see him being calm at all. I think he is doing better than 1st debate and he isn't stalking her like at the 2nd debate, so maybe compared to those. But I think this is Clinton's strongest of the 3, even better than the 1st one - which was more Trump being bad than her being great.

I think any gains he made by looking sane in the first part of the debate, were thrown out the window when he said he didn't know if he would accept the election results.

Crazy is as crazy does.

Shystonefem · 10-19-2016, 08:49 PM

He said that he would not agree to a peaceful transfer of power. That seems to be what the news outlets are talking about. Many people are shocked and insulted.

EnderD_503 · 10-19-2016, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Shystonefem

He said that he would not agree to a peaceful transfer of power. That seems to be what the news outlets are talking about. Many people are shocked and insulted.

That's the thing. I don't follow American elections as closely as some, but I remember a while back reading he basically didn't care that he had members of the KKK backing him and even invited it. He seems to be moving in that direction again lately with the kind of company he keeps, and even just by saying he won't accept election results if he loses (even if, in the end, he doesn't do anything about his loss) in some ways it provides the catalyst for those American far-right militia types to start lashing out more than they have in years should he lose. Especially with the West on the whole taking a turn toward the far-right. He doesn't have the brains, but he has the fervour and ideology to further radicalise far-right groups that have been more controlled/less violent on a larger scale than a few decades ago.

Medusa · 10-19-2016, 08:49 PM

Wallace has been one of the best moderators I've seen.

Hillary wiped the fucking floor with Trump's inconsistent, lying, racist, sexist, fake ass and I can't wait to say that I was alive with both our first President of Color and our First Female President.

Hillary is not perfect, by far, but she isn't insane or mean-spirited. I think she did an amazing job demonstrating her poise and negotiating ability and, dare I say it, her SUPREME COMPOSURE when that man deserved to have the living shit slapped out of him more than a few times.

DapperButch · 10-19-2016, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BullDog

I guess we are seeing him differently then. I don't see him being calm at all. I think he is doing better than 1st debate and he isn't stalking her like at the 2nd debate, so maybe compared to those. But I think this is Clinton's strongest of the 3, even better than the 1st one - which was more Trump being bad than her being great.

Yes, that is all I am referring to...how he is here in comparison to the first two debates.

BullDog · 10-19-2016, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DapperButch

Yes, that is all I am referring to...how he is here in comparison to the first two debates.

Gotcha. In some ways it was his strongest debate. But wow, yeah the whole talk is how he won't necessarily accept the outcome, so I think that is getting overshadowed.

anotherbutch · 10-19-2016, 08:52 PM

I think Trump might have smoked a blunt before the debate.....

not2shygrrl · 10-19-2016, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by anotherbutch

I think Trump might have smoked a blunt before the debate.....

Hahaha that made me laugh~ It was drump just this week suggesting a drug test prior to the debate!!.....if this would have been the case...oh boy!!

Gemme · 10-19-2016, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by *Anya*

Trump looks medicated to me. 😑

Not much affect considering the last two debates.

Xanax?

WRONG!

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Originally Posted by DapperButch

I agree she is very strong. I am talking about his presentation, not even anything he is saying. He is not acting like an insane man. Nothing to do with his words. He presents as calm. That is different. That is what people have pointed out as his issue/problem. He isn't doing that this time.

I'm talking about his temperament, which is everyone's concern.

For those of you who work in the mental health industry, how would you diagnose a patient that has a history of erratic and aggressive behavior, grandiose and unrealistic delusions, is narcissistic, is threatening towards anyone that confronts him, degrades women, is a xenophobe and likely a pathological liar?

It's not my field so I'm honestly interested. Also, I agree. He's totally been jacked up on something that smoothes his rough edges. It must have taken the dose of an elephant to get that effect.

A. Spectre · 10-19-2016, 08:55 PM

Hillary just won "bigly." Paul Ryan needs to put country before party to denounce trumps position on whether or not trump would agree to the legitimacy of the outcome of the election.

*Anya* · 10-19-2016, 08:55 PM

Off topic but may I say Rachel Maddow looks very handsomely butch tonight.

Trump's words did not match his appearance. I thought he looked half-asleep.

Asshole that he is.

He won't accept the results of the election. What a loser.

Hillary did a fantastic job.

A. Spectre · 10-19-2016, 08:58 PM

"Nobody respects women more than I do."

"What a nasty woman."

All said within a half hour. Holy cow!

Shystonefem · 10-19-2016, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by *Anya*

Off topic but may I say Rachel Maddow looks very handsomely butch tonight.

Trump's words did not match his appearance. I thought he looked half-asleep.

Asshole that he is.

He won't accept the results of the election. What a loser.

Hillary did a fantastic job.

I don't think I have ever seen a time when Rachael didn't look handsomely butch.

Bubala · 10-19-2016, 09:05 PM

Rachel is always handsome

Big numbers coming from the big cities will be clear this year.

Trump said how poll watches should watch Philly and Chicago... Fact Check - Chicago is not up for grabs its With HRC all the way.

I agree with Rachel's assessment of Trump strategy as "weaponizing the racist stereotypes". Trump is wildly outside of the norms of American political rhetoric, such notions, even in their most gentle implications, represent a serious danger to democracy at its core.

Lyte · 10-19-2016, 09:28 PM

He did seem more under control in the beginning and then kinda lost it for a while. Overall this was his best performance.

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Originally Posted by DapperButch

I agree she is very strong. I am talking about his presentation, not even anything he is saying. He is not acting like an insane man. Nothing to do with his words. He presents as calm. That is different. That is what people have pointed out as his issue/problem. He isn't doing that this time.

I'm talking about his temperament, which is everyone's concern.

Medusa · 10-19-2016, 09:57 PM

I feel like his handlers are toning down his "orange-ness". His hair and skin look less "Orange Fanta".

It makes me wonder if they are trying to make him look more Presidential or if it's truly just the effects of the campaign wearing on him.

10-19-2016, 08:23 PM	#1
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Shystonefem Member How Do You Identify?: Stone Femme Preferred Pronoun?: She Relationship Status: Shy for President Join Date: May 2014 Location: NH Posts: 1,105 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 5,475 Thanked 3,674 Times in 897 Posts Rep Power: 21474849	Tonight, Donald Trump insulted our FBI, our Dept of Justice, our State Dept and so many individuals. He had no answers to the questions, only insults. Trump did not agree to a peaceful transfer of power. Trump lied about voter fraud. Lied about his support for the invasion of Iraq. Lied through this debate again. He tried to maintain his cool, he lost it a few times. He did appear more calm yet without substance, how can anyone say that he is fit to be POTUS? BTW: ISIS leaders are still in Iraq. __________________ Life is a series of natural and spontaneous changes. Don't resist them - that only creates sorrow. Let reality be reality. Let things flow naturally forward in whatever way they like. ~Lao Tzu

10-19-2016, 08:49 PM	#6
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10-19-2016, 09:57 PM	#20
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