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Old 04-11-2017, 09:11 PM   #1
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Anya,

I really don't have an investment in what your ex's surgery was called 20 years ago. I even said it was probably called breast reduction even if it more closely resembled "top surgery", as the term "top surgery" wasn't used back then.

What I care about is C+ butches getting excited thinking they can get a plastic surgeon to provide them with a "breast reduction" that will make them a small A, which can be billed under their regular insurance, only to find out that they can't. Many, many butches and trans men have gone this route over the years and were disappointed. I attempted to go this route. It sucked when I was told that a breast reduction could not give me this. It sucked. It sucked BAD. 20 years ago, even 10 years ago, surgeons would provide top surgery, but code it and bill it as a "breast reduction".

I knew I was taking a risk of you pissing you off and others thinking I am an ass (both which have appeared to have happened), but I wasn't going to let another big chested butch get their hopes up based on the experience of one person from 20 years ago. Well, maybe I couldn't impact their hope, but at least I might be able to suggest they shouldn't assume it could be done.

I'm not going to respond any more to this topic of breast reduction. This is a top surgery thread for butches, to talk about their interest in top surgery. I am not going to continue to clog up the thread with a different topic.
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Old 04-11-2017, 10:20 PM   #2
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guys...guys...GUYS!

What's with the animosity? Yes, the thread is entitled "Top Surgery for Butches," but why complain about any information that's available and helpful?

I, for one, am interested in reading about anything useful.
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I have a question...Do they still require those who want this surgery to be on T a full year before they will perform surgery? I was told it had something to do with developing needed muscle mass(as far as I can recall).....it's been a long while since I was involved in this so if this isn't the case anymore I'd love to know! I've been with two pre-op and post-ops and I have to say they turned out magnificent...j/s
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I have a question...Do they still require those who want this surgery to be on T a full year before they will perform surgery? I was told it had something to do with developing needed muscle mass(as far as I can recall).....it's been a long while since I was involved in this so if this isn't the case anymore I'd love to know! I've been with two pre-op and post-ops and I have to say they turned out magnificent...j/s
No, this is no longer required. The reduction of gender dysphoria depends on the person. Not everyone feels they need to take T in order to reduce their gender dysphoria.

The muscle part was a myth....I don't know if surgeons fueled it (because they wanted an excuse to not go against WPATH standards), or where it came from. And then it just continued.
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I have thought about this for a long time... I naturally make so much T that I already only have small size chest mostly resembles a male chest anyways.. My issue is the scars.. for Me I would not like ha omg the large scars... delema
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I have thought about this for a long time... I naturally make so much T that I already only have small size chest mostly resembles a male chest anyways.. My issue is the scars.. for Me I would not like ha omg the large scars... delema
If you have no droop to your breasts, you can get the "keyhole" or peri-areola method. This has no scars. Dr Fischer is regarded as the best at this internationally. She is in Maryland and does take insurance.
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Anya,

I really don't have an investment in what your ex's surgery was called 20 years ago. I even said it was probably called breast reduction even if it more closely resembled "top surgery", as the term "top surgery" wasn't used back then.

What I care about is C+ butches getting excited thinking they can get a plastic surgeon to provide them with a "breast reduction" that will make them a small A, which can be billed under their regular insurance, only to find out that they can't. Many, many butches and trans men have gone this route over the years and were disappointed. I attempted to go this route. It sucked when I was told that a breast reduction could not give me this. It sucked. It sucked BAD. 20 years ago, even 10 years ago, surgeons would provide top surgery, but code it and bill it as a "breast reduction".

I knew I was taking a risk of you pissing you off and others thinking I am an ass (both which have appeared to have happened), but I wasn't going to let another big chested butch get their hopes up based on the experience of one person from 20 years ago. Well, maybe I couldn't impact their hope, but at least I might be able to suggest they shouldn't assume it could be done.

I'm not going to respond any more to this topic of breast reduction. This is a top surgery thread for butches, to talk about their interest in top surgery. I am not going to continue to clog up the thread with a different topic.
Ok, so I just realized where my error may be in explaining things.

I am defining breast reduction vs. top surgery based on the amount of tissue removed and the type of incisions that would have had to be done in order to take someone from that size TO an A. I am not arguing, something like when the surgeon removed your ex's nipple/areola complex and resized it, that they placed it where a female areola complex would be located.
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