Top 10: Things To Have In Your Home That Women Love

[Toughy]

I'm just kind of curious about something. A couple of femmes have used 'he' and 'him' when talking about what they might do for butches who come to visit. Since, at least for the most part, 'he' is not the default pronoun for butch folk on this site, I have a question.

Does the use of 'he' in your posts mean you are talking about a transman and/or a male id'd butch? I have to assume that, because you certainly can't be talking about what you would do for a butch woman while using male pronouns. I must also assume you don't date butch women. If butch women are also in your realm of dating, you might try s/he as an inclusive way to use pronouns.

(and S/He is also a great book by Minnie Bruce Pratt.........a kick ass femme who has written some great stuff)

[JustJo]

My sweetie hasn't yet been to visit me at my home, as much as I would like that. Because of work and child commitments, I'm the one logging the frequent flyer miles.

There are some sweet things she does for me when I'm there....and some I try to do for her...

She always has diet coke and doritos...my two big weaknesses

She is my chauffeur to the beach ...not in the house, but still a biggie

scented candles

and more important than anything else....her attention, affection and love

And for her....I try to make her a home-cooked meal (when she lets me ), bake some brownies or cookies...and give her a massage.

[Ms Vixen]

Originally Posted by Toughy

I'm just kind of curious about something. A couple of femmes have used 'he' and 'him' when talking about what they might do for butches who come to visit. Since, at least for the most part, 'he' is not the default pronoun for butch folk on this site, I have a question.

Does the use of 'he' in your posts mean you are talking about a transman and/or a male id'd butch? I have to assume that, because you certainly can't be talking about what you would do for a butch woman while using male pronouns. I must also assume you don't date butch women. If butch women are also in your realm of dating, you might try s/he as an inclusive way to use pronouns.

...or you might use he... or she... depending on how your own personal construct theory runs.

I certainly use "he" for all butches... if they tell me that they prefer "she" I will use the title out of courtesy, but to me butch is "he", femme "she". This has held true for all of the butches and transguys I've known/dated, including those that identified as women. And in the case of the female identified butches I've known/dated, they understood and were comfortable with the fact that the "he" pronoun to me, and to them themselves in their interactions with me, honoured their butchness rather than their feminity.

Also not sure that we can assume that we know what the default pronoun is for all of the butches on this site.

Each to their own, diversity does make the world go round.

Cheers,


Ms V

[apretty]

and people want to know why the SHE is marginalized.

well here ya go:

Originally Posted by Ms Vixen

I certainly use "he" for all butches... if they tell me that they prefer "she" I will use the title out of courtesy, but to me butch is "he", femme "she". This has held true for all of the butches and transguys I've known/dated, including those that identified as women. And in the case of the female identified butches I've known/dated, they understood and were comfortable with the fact that the "he" pronoun to me, and to them themselves in their interactions with me, honoured their butchness rather than their feminity.

Also not sure that we can assume that we know what the default pronoun is for all of the butches on this site.

Each to their own, diversity does make the world go round.

Cheers,


Ms V

[weatherboi]

ten more things i have for my Ms in the house

really soft blankets
space in closet to hang clothes, floggers and store shoes
a few empty drawers
shelf space in bathroom closet
all the makings for fresh veggie spring rolls
specific items for coffee her way
specific cereals
bananas
pnut butter
honey

[Chancie]

Originally Posted by Ms Vixen

...or you might use he... or she... depending on how your own personal construct theory runs.

I certainly use "he" for all butches... if they tell me that they prefer "she" I will use the title out of courtesy, but to me butch is "he", femme "she". This has held true for all of the butches and transguys I've known/dated, including those that identified as women. And in the case of the female identified butches I've known/dated, they understood and were comfortable with the fact that the "he" pronoun to me, and to them themselves in their interactions with me, honoured their butchness rather than their feminity.

Also not sure that we can assume that we know what the default pronoun is for all of the butches on this site.

Each to their own, diversity does make the world go round.

Cheers,


Ms V

You're joking, right? Just to get a rise out of us?

[SuperFemme]

I want a pet pretentious twat. I shall name her Victor and make her do man jobs. It would be fun.

[Diva]

Originally Posted by Toughy

I'm just kind of curious about something. A couple of femmes have used 'he' and 'him' when talking about what they might do for butches who come to visit. Since, at least for the most part, 'he' is not the default pronoun for butch folk on this site, I have a question.

Does the use of 'he' in your posts mean you are talking about a transman and/or a male id'd butch? I have to assume that, because you certainly can't be talking about what you would do for a butch woman while using male pronouns. I must also assume you don't date butch women. If butch women are also in your realm of dating, you might try s/he as an inclusive way to use pronouns.

(and S/He is also a great book by Minnie Bruce Pratt.........a kick ass femme who has written some great stuff)

Since this thread is in The Trans Zone, and since I am primarily attracted to male~identified butches and/or transmen, I used "guy" (I believe) in my particular post. I did not include 'she' because I didn't feel the need to be inclusive.... as this is The Trans Zone.

[Rook]

• a Grill {the kind u cook on}

• Pepperidge Farms orange Milanos....

• Pepperidge Farms Sausalito Crunchy cookies {getting the message?}

♦ Functional LG front washer/dryer..

♦ Coffee....

♦ Tea

• Jelly Bellies {Mostly Popcorn and Pomegranite}

• Wide variety of CD/DVD

♦ Comfortable Furniture...period.

• Occasional bottle of Wine in a nicely Stocked Fridge.

[Toughy]

Originally Posted by Diva

Since this thread is in The Trans Zone, and since I am primarily attracted to male~identified butches and/or transmen, I used "guy" (I believe) in my particular post. I did not include 'she' because I didn't feel the need to be inclusive.... as this is The Trans Zone.

Diva, you pointed out something I had not even noticed. I rarely ever look at where a thread is located in the forums. I didn't realize this was the 'trans zone'. Point taken.

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MsVixen just makes me mostly disgusted. I'm not at all surprised by her ignorance and lack of respect. However, that is not the first time a femme has said "all butches are he' to me...........the difference with this one is I read the words instead of them being said to my face. And it's not even the first time I have read those words.

Been there done that more than once.......*yawn*