The Female Male ID "Wars"... or Great Divide

[Goofy]

I agree with much of what has already been stated. I don’t feel any animosity towards any one group, nor do I think my ID is “at war” with any other ID, per se.

What I do see is a number of people getting riled up about one thing or another and being very vocal in their opinions. This is sometimes perceived as one ID being pitted against another when, in reality, it’s an individual thing.

I don’t believe in having to be the loudest to make myself heard.

Very rarely will I post in threads that do not pertain to my ID. But I realize that’s my thing. I may read in those threads however, for both knowledge and understanding. Hell, I rarely post much at all these days.

And mostly I’m tired. I’m tired of the circular conversations/arguments that have been going on for years about which ID is being shot down and which one is put on a pedestal; how to be x, y or z, or not; who’s more, or less (___fill in the blank). They go round and round and everyone gets their undergarments of choice in a knot and usually we end up right back where we started from. And I’m not sure how we get past that.

It truly makes me sad.

[AtLast]

Originally Posted by Goofy

I agree with much of what has already been stated. I don’t feel any animosity towards any one group, nor do I think my ID is “at war” with any other ID, per se.

What I do see is a number of people getting riled up about one thing or another and being very vocal in their opinions. This is sometimes perceived as one ID being pitted against another when, in reality, it’s an individual thing.

I don’t believe in having to be the loudest to make myself heard.

Very rarely will I post in threads that do not pertain to my ID. But I realize that’s my thing. I may read in those threads however, for both knowledge and understanding. Hell, I rarely post much at all these days.

And mostly I’m tired. I’m tired of the circular conversations/arguments that have been going on for years about which ID is being shot down and which one is put on a pedestal; how to be x, y or z, or not; who’s more, or less (___fill in the blank). They go round and round and everyone gets their undergarments of choice in a knot and usually we end up right back where we started from. And I’m not sure how we get past that.

It truly makes me sad.

It is so damn hard to hear from many of the long-time members that this has been going on and on and on.... and that they tend to just stop posting much at all. But, this is what I am often told. And I have to say that I know it is only a matter of time until I just give it up! Well, online. There are folks that I have had an opprortunity to get to know offline locally that I know I can talk about this stuff honestly with. And maybe at events like Biutch voices if we can get together there.

Maybe it won't ever end.

Yup, sad. Sux.....

[Gayla]

Originally Posted by AtLastHome

It is so damn hard to hear from many of the long-time members that this has been going on and on and on.... and that they tend to just stop posting much at all. But, this is what I am often told. And I have to say that I know it is only a matter of time until I just give it up! Well, online. There are folks that I have had an opprortunity to get to know offline locally that I know I can talk about this stuff honestly with. And maybe at events like Biutch voices if we can get together there.

Maybe it won't ever end.

Yup, sad. Sux.....

I don't think it will ever end. I also don't think that's a bad thing.

People find us at various stages in their journey and, hopefully, there will always be people here willing to discuss these issues based on where they are along their own path. If/when one of us gets tired of beating our head against the proverbial gender wall, someone else will be there to pick up where we left off.

Yes, we do this a lot. But, I learn something new just about every time we do it.