top surgery

The Oopster · 05-28-2010, 02:35 PM

Did anyone else have binder burns? How long did they take to go away? Have they gone away?

Thinker · 05-30-2010, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by The Oopster

Did anyone else have binder burns? How long did they take to go away? Have they gone away?

None here. Are you talking about your surgical binders?

I didn't have any from regular pre-surgery binding either. Post-surgery, I used Ace bandage/tensors, not any sort of "official" post-surgical binder. Maybe that was the difference.

That sounds pretty severe though. If you're wearing something that is causing burns like that, how about using something different??? Or going without while you're at home lying down?

On a side note, how are you feeling? Healing?

The Oopster · 05-30-2010, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinker

None here. Are you talking about your surgical binders?

I didn't have any from regular pre-surgery binding either. Post-surgery, I used Ace bandage/tensors, not any sort of "official" post-surgical binder. Maybe that was the difference.

That sounds pretty severe though. If you're wearing something that is causing burns like that, how about using something different??? Or going without while you're at home lying down?

On a side note, how are you feeling? Healing?

These are from presurgery, when the binder would roll up and dig into my ribs.

I'm doing pretty good. Amazed at how much the surgery took out of me. I'll feel decent then do stuff and be exhausted. Had to clean the fridge yesterday because a huge ice sculpture had formed in the freezer and it was a bigger process then normal. Had to just do a little bit, rest and do a bit more. The good note is that the more physically i do the less stiff I am both surgically and all over. Hopng to start some work back up next weekend. Will go in and talk to them towards the end of the week, about what will work the best.

My chest looks amazing though.

I haven't had to do any type of binding now for about a week. Just able to wear a normal shirt. He does have me putting tape over the big incisions for a few months though. Part of that is just to keep it from getting irritated.

Maverick · 02-27-2012, 11:42 PM

I have a question for the guys that have had their surgeries a while ago and are healed up. I'm thinking about having top surgery in the future but I'm concerned about losing sensation in the nipples afterwards. What are your experiences with this? Is there good sensation still or is it mostly numb now. I will definitely need double incision as I'm fairly large.

Thanks

The Oopster · 02-28-2012, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Maverick

I have a question for the guys that have had their surgeries a while ago and are healed up. I'm thinking about having top surgery in the future but I'm concerned about losing sensation in the nipples afterwards. What are your experiences with this? Is there good sensation still or is it mostly numb now. I will definitely need double incision as I'm fairly large.

Thanks

i really had no sensation prior and I definitely have sensation now!

Maverick · 02-29-2012, 12:49 PM

that's encouraging to hear.

Nadeest · 03-23-2012, 10:31 AM

I am so glad that I read this thread. Through it, I found out that there is an SRS surgeon right here in Texas, and that they are still operating. Thanks, everyone, for posting here.

SelfMadeMan · 03-23-2012, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick

I have a question for the guys that have had their surgeries a while ago and are healed up. I'm thinking about having top surgery in the future but I'm concerned about losing sensation in the nipples afterwards. What are your experiences with this? Is there good sensation still or is it mostly numb now. I will definitely need double incision as I'm fairly large.

Thanks

I had sensation prior to my top surgery, and retained that, plus! I was also fairly large chested and had the double incision with nipple grafts.

Maverick · 05-15-2012, 10:29 PM

That's great to hear! Thanks.

Soft*Silver · 07-01-2012, 11:57 PM

a dear friend of mine locally is having top surgery and is funding it thru the sale of his tshirts. they run $10 up to size 2x, $15 for larger sizes. All colors available. To buy one, contact him on FB

https://www.facebook.com/kage.j.coven

or PM me here and I will connect you to him.

I have his permission to post this.

Here is what the shirts look like

EnderD_503 · 07-08-2012, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The Oopster

Did anyone else have binder burns? How long did they take to go away? Have they gone away?

I'm (finally! I still am having troubles believing that there's an end in sight) getting surgery at the end of the month and have been wondering this as well. I don't know whether to call them binder burns or what, but basically dark seemingly permanent marks a few centimetres out around the bottom of my arms pits and parts of my chest where the outer edge of the binder cuts in. Also just areas of the skin just roughened by the binder edges from wearing it for so long. I've been wondering if those will eventually go away. I figure they'll probably fade with time.

So yeah, I second this, anyone with experience with this would be interesting to hear.

EnderD_503 · 07-28-2012, 04:52 PM

Ender has now officially had top surgery (yay!!!)!!! *exclamationmarkexclamationmark*

So I'll try to remember to come back here as time goes by to post if the binder burns/scars go away/how long it takes.

P.S. So happy!

DapperButch · 07-28-2012, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by EnderD_503

Ender has now officially had top surgery (yay!!!)!!! *exclamationmarkexclamationmark*

So I'll try to remember to come back here as time goes by to post if the binder burns/scars go away/how long it takes.

P.S. So happy!

Congratulations! I bet you are thrilled! Yes, please keep us updated on your healing process!

EnderD_503 · 07-30-2012, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DapperButch

Congratulations! I bet you are thrilled! Yes, please keep us updated on your healing process!

Thanks! Unbelievably thrilled!

I'm pretty much permanently insanely happy right now, lol!

theoddz · 07-30-2012, 10:10 AM

Ender, I hate to even suppose something like this, but you know what it sounds like you have??

Some kind of similar thing to what they call "venous stasis" markings. When you wear something that's tight, it cuts off circulation, primarily the venous return pathway back to the heart. The blockage in circulation causes the capillary system in the dermis (skin) to be blocked/squeezed off and the resulting swelling causes pooling of blood and pigmentation of the exterior skin. Some large people can get this same thing, including the pigmentation, from wearing socks that are too tight. You end up seeing the discoloration where the elastic was. That's where the blood clots can form, too.

It's too bad that binding is the only way for us guys (XX guys, vs. XY guys) to flatten our chests until we can afford or get chest surgery. Wearing binders/compression devices is so risky, primarily because of the dangers of embolisms (clots). If you have to wear a binder or compression device, please try to not wear them for prolonged periods of time. Loosen or take them off at intervals, if you can. It's not worth throwing a clot and dropping dead of a clot to either your brain or your lungs.

I know that not all of us have health insurance these days, but I'm sure that most, if not all, of us transguys would gladly exchange our policy's "maternity coverage" for trans services!!!! It's just a damned shame that most of us have to save for so long in order to pay for it ourselves. Congrats to you for getting yours soon!! Keep us up on your progress!!

~Theo~

Nadeest · 07-30-2012, 03:19 PM

Thanks, Theoddz for telling us about this. I was not aware of it, though I am at risk for DVT (Deep Vein Thrombosis, i.e. blood clots in the deep veins in my legs, as I understand it.) due to the hormones that I take for my transition.

Congrats, Ender!

07-01-2012, 11:57 PM	#10
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07-30-2012, 10:10 AM	#15
theoddz Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Cranky Old Poop Preferred Pronoun?: Mr. Beast Relationship Status: Married to a beautiful babe whom I don't deserve. Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Central Texas Posts: 3,544 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 11,162 Thanked 9,939 Times in 2,516 Posts Rep Power: 21474855	Ender, I hate to even suppose something like this, but you know what it sounds like you have?? Some kind of similar thing to what they call "venous stasis" markings. When you wear something that's tight, it cuts off circulation, primarily the venous return pathway back to the heart. The blockage in circulation causes the capillary system in the dermis (skin) to be blocked/squeezed off and the resulting swelling causes pooling of blood and pigmentation of the exterior skin. Some large people can get this same thing, including the pigmentation, from wearing socks that are too tight. You end up seeing the discoloration where the elastic was. That's where the blood clots can form, too. It's too bad that binding is the only way for us guys (XX guys, vs. XY guys) to flatten our chests until we can afford or get chest surgery. Wearing binders/compression devices is so risky, primarily because of the dangers of embolisms (clots). If you have to wear a binder or compression device, please try to not wear them for prolonged periods of time. Loosen or take them off at intervals, if you can. It's not worth throwing a clot and dropping dead of a clot to either your brain or your lungs. I know that not all of us have health insurance these days, but I'm sure that most, if not all, of us transguys would gladly exchange our policy's "maternity coverage" for trans services!!!! It's just a damned shame that most of us have to save for so long in order to pay for it ourselves. Congrats to you for getting yours soon!! Keep us up on your progress!! *~Theo~* __________________ *"All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost; The old that is strong does not wither, Deep roots are not reached by the frost."* -- J. R. R. Tolkien

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Maverick Junior Member How Do You Identify?: Transman Preferred Pronoun?: they/them Relationship Status: encumbered Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: eastern US Posts: 48 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 361 Thanked 181 Times in 34 Posts Rep Power: 1216948	I have a question for the guys that have had their surgeries a while ago and are healed up. I'm thinking about having top surgery in the future but I'm concerned about losing sensation in the nipples afterwards. What are your experiences with this? Is there good sensation still or is it mostly numb now. I will definitely need double incision as I'm fairly large. Thanks

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05-15-2012, 10:29 PM	#9
Maverick Junior Member How Do You Identify?: Transman Preferred Pronoun?: they/them Relationship Status: encumbered Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: eastern US Posts: 48 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 361 Thanked 181 Times in 34 Posts Rep Power: 1216948	That's great to hear! Thanks.

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07-30-2012, 03:19 PM	#16
Nadeest Member How Do You Identify?: as myself Preferred Pronoun?: She Relationship Status: Single Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Leesburg, FL Posts: 595 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 2,876 Thanked 2,118 Times in 501 Posts Rep Power: 17077998	Thanks, Theoddz for telling us about this. I was not aware of it, though I am at risk for DVT (Deep Vein Thrombosis, i.e. blood clots in the deep veins in my legs, as I understand it.) due to the hormones that I take for my transition. Congrats, Ender!