Weinstein

[Orema]

Originally Posted by tantalizingfemme

I believe the difference in treatment has to do with the current political climate. Trump being in office who denigrates most women at every turn and sees no accountibity has frustrated everyone who at a loss that his actions are deemed ok. It’s almost feels like since Trump can’t be accountable, Weinstein is the next big thing. I hope that it continues for all abusers. Regardless of position in the world. It should never happen.

I think this is part of it, but I think the big difference is our perception of the women speaking. I think that’s what’s making the difference.

The general public didn’t know Anita Hill, Monica Lewinsky, Juanita Broaddrick, Janice Dickerson, the 14 or so women accusing Trump, Gretchen Carlson, etc. and many people didn’t believe them.

But the actresses telling us what Weinstein put them through are women known by the general public. We know them, we trust them, these are women who have impacted our decisions through their art. I think that, coupled with Weinstien’s initial plea for mercy, has made a difference.

[tantalizingfemme]

Originally Posted by Orema

I think this is part of it, but I think the big difference is our perception of the women speaking. I think that’s what’s making the difference.

The general public didn’t know Anita Hill, Monica Lewinsky, Juanita Broaddrick, Janice Dickerson, the 14 or so women accusing Trump, Gretchen Carlson, etc. and many people didn’t believe them.

But the actresses telling us what Weinstein put them through are women known by the general public. We know them, we trust them, these are women who have impacted our decisions through their art. I think that, coupled with Weinstien’s initial plea for mercy, has made a difference.

I have been thinking about this and I see another reason too. Men (besides Weinstein) in the entertainment industry coming out to say yes, this is true. I hate it but I do think it's getting more legs because of that. And that sucks.

[Orema]

Originally Posted by tantalizingfemme

I have been thinking about this and I see another reason too. Men (besides Weinstein) in the entertainment industry coming out to say yes, this is true. I hate it but I do think it's getting more legs because of that. And that sucks.

I think this has made a difference, too, but I wonder if the men would have spoken up if Weinstein had vehemently denied the claims like Cosby, Ailes, and O'Reilly did. Maybe they would have spoken against him, but I'm not so sure.

[C0LLETTE]

Hello Kevin Spacey....you dumb horrid fuck

[homoe]

It must be so infuriating when a victim is told by the perpetrator they don't even remember committing the assault! You can damn well bet every victim remembers!

[tantalizingfemme]

Originally Posted by C0LLETTE

Hello Kevin Spacey....you dumb horrid fuck

My personal fave was him making sure to say he was drunk because that makes him less responsible, right? Asshole.

[Kobi]

I see positives in growing numbers of women coming forward with their stories. Efforts have been made to downplay the prevalence of these behaviors. The growing numbers of stories begins to attest to the actual extent of the problem.

I am pleased that women are sharing more details as to what they have experienced. Tho difficult to read, the details have huge potential positive benefits to other women. To know you are not alone with this experience can be a relief. To be able give a name to what you experienced is huge. To be able to give it a name and understand what happened in a different way, may help with all the complex feelings that occur, especially things like guilt, embarrassment, self blame, shame.

As for Kevin Spacey....I can understand why there are so many different and negative reactions to his response. I saw something positive in it. He didnt do the knee jerk, outright denial. He doesnt remember the incident, chalked it up to alcohol but he did accept responsibility albeit in a roundabout way.

I was more concerned about Spacey being 26 and Rapp being 14 at the time.

And, I am still scratching my head as to why Spacey, a well known bisexual, decided this was a good time to announce he was a gay man.

The network cancelled House of Cards in response to the allegations.

Mark Halperin, also kinda sorta admitted to the behavior tho he denied some of the details.

NBC cancelled his contact in response.

Some form of admission of the behavior is a positive step. Quick action by employers is a positive step. I just hope these things are being done for the right reasons.

[JDeere]

Originally Posted by C0LLETTE

Hello Kevin Spacey....you dumb horrid fuck

He even had the balls to come out as gay during this, can we say deflecting.

[homoe]

Incidents regarding Spacey are also alleged to have taken place in the UK while the two-time Oscar winner was the artistic director at the Old Vic in London between 2004 and 2015. Mexican actor Roberto Cavazos, who acted in several plays at the theatre, claims Spacey "routinely preyed" on young male actors.He said he fended off two "unpleasant" advances from Spacey that "bordered on harassment," but that others were afraid to do so.

Claims by US filmmaker Tony Montana have surfaced as well.

[JDeere]

I have heard that Dustin Hoffman has been accused as well.

This just makes me sick, I am tired of hearing "that's just how it is in showbiz".