Dykes And Lesbians To Watch Out For

[Sam]

Originally Posted by princessbelle

I honestly try not to use either.

I agree with the ones that say the "straight" world seems to refer to us all (our community) as lesbians or dykes. I however, do not feel i am either.

I identify as a gay femme. That is what I prefer. So many labels ...so little time....

femme

[JustBeingMe]

This is a lesbian owned bed and breakfast located off the San Marcos River, just outside of Austin. www.riverbarnsuites.com. The owner has kayaks for use and takes you on kayak rides down the river if the river is up enough. IT's a really nice place.

[JustJo]

Originally Posted by JustBeingMe

This is a lesbian owned bed and breakfast located off the San Marcos River, just outside of Austin. www.riverbarnsuites.com. The owner has kayaks for use and takes you on kayak rides down the river if the river is up enough. IT's a really nice place.

I love that everyone is posting these things.....maybe we need a Lesbian vacations thread???

[BullDog]

Originally Posted by JustJo

I love that everyone is posting these things.....maybe we need a Lesbian vacations thread???

Well I definitely know there are lots of us lesbians who need a vacation!

[JustJo]

Originally Posted by BullDog

Well I definitely know there are lots of us lesbians who need a vacation!

* raising hand *

I do! I do!

[purepisces]

Oh, I can't believe that I am so late to the thread. Yes, I'm another proud lesbian/dyke!

I love, love, love this thread!!!

[Kobi]

Welcome purepisces. We left the light on for ya

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[BarbaraRyan]

Adding my two cents as a newbie:

When I think of the word Dyke, I think "earthy" or "practical". Both awesome things.

But I have a particular love for the word Lesbian. To me there is something poetic about it. It evokes romantic images of chocolate and wine. (A little cheesy, I know).

[imperfect_cupcake]

Lesbian took me a little while to come to. I vociferously refused to ID as lesbian (though dyke was ever so slightly less offensive) when I came out. Mainly because the vast majority of lesbians I knew were very much anti... me. The *dykes* I knew were more butch-butch leather in seattle; the *lesbians* I knew were... fairly narrow minded, not very well travelled, not exposed to much, didn't like the way I looked (politically and publicialy. they didn't mind trapping me in a dark corner at a party though) and didn't understand my particular tastes, sexually.

So I refused to identify with them if they refused to accept me.

Then I met all of the kick-ass lesbians when I started to travel as a queer - ones who had done all this serious work to be recognised as a lesbian. I met lesbians from all kinds of political/sexual "wars" between groups of feminists.

And I was asked "do you recognise that they are lesbian?" Yes. "do you recognise the work they did for that?" yes. "but you are willing to sit on your ass and sulk about not being accepted by people? do you do that with the rest of your life as well?"

No. I don't. So I reclaimed lesbian, for me. I didn't start at lesbian first. I was queer for a few years while I refused to be associated with "those" lesbians.

I learned I didn't have to be. I don't have to be associated with *ANYONE* just because they have the same sexuality (even if it's expressed differently), or back ground or whatever. People are not the same wherever you go. Lesbian is *NOT* the same where ever you go. Niether is butch or femme.

I learned that the short sighted with little wordly experienced lesbians I come out to were not what all lesbians everywhere were like. And to say they were would be bigoted and short sighted of me to not recognise that humans differ vastly.

When I got to Toronto, I met tons of lesbians who didn't give a shit that a presented very feminine. I found I could be friends with many non-butch, non-femme lesbians - unlike the idiots I had previously known. when I came to London... my world exploded. I walked into my first lesbian bar (Mineries. LMAO. far from classy but I love that place every once in a rare while) and no one asked me if I was straight or bi or a poodle. No one fuckin *cared*.

I walked into the bathroom and it was thronging with girls in feminine little hip dresses, toussled hair, re-applying masses of make up and clicking about in heels.

I remember thinking "oh thank fuck."

I have met the biggest diversity of lesbians ever imaginable in london. Some unimaginable. There are fewer rules and no one gives a shit. It's allowed me to pick exactly what I want to be, how I want to be.

Now I mainly hang in gender-queer clubs with a dyke backbone to it. That's really my favourite comfort zone.

I'm a queer dyke lesbian femme. Or just barb, most of the time.

[free-to-be]

I, too, prefer lesbian over dyke. Dyke is such a harsh-sounding word and is often used harshly. Sapphic, now that's another word I like!

Happy Saturday everyone!

[BullDog]

Free-to-be, welcome to BFP and this thread. Yes, there are some lesbians who don't like the word dyke. I personally like both. It has been used as a slur against me, but I have reclaimed it. I kinda like that it sounds harsh, heh heh.

[morningstar55]

interesting thread.............
i find that no matter how we all identify ...... to the general public be it str8 or gay .... we are al consider'd lesbians...
only thing is ........ in cringe when someone refer's to my dates as ..... a girl.
like as in ...... how are you ladies doing tonight??
or.... how was your date with your gf ???
i really cant seem to think of my stone butch/ or tg dates as ahhhh girl..
i tend to correct the statment when said. heh........

[LipstickLola]

Hey y'all

Imma lesbian, and the princess (old fogey too) LOL