A World Without Hate~LGBT Community

[MsTinkerbelly]

Originally Posted by homoe

It's pretty amazing all the rights us in America have gained since this posting!

But we really haven’t gained more than marriage equality!

People can still refuse services, jobs, housing...children can be thrown out of their homes and no one locks up their parents, our transgender brothers and sisters are being murdered in the streets.

In 8-9 years these things have not changed because of fear; fear of someone different, someone who dares to march to their own drummer. Do you want to know when we will be fully accepted into this world? Ask our citizens of color when they got acceptance, add a hundred years, and maybe we will as well.

Unless people keep waving their bibles at us...and then all bets are off.


***This post is not directed at you homoe, except that it was a starting point for my rant.

[cathexis]

Hate crimes are up and continue to rise further as the "Alt-Right" rears it's ugly reactionary head.

Yes, we can blame Trump, but what was the driving force behind his election? How could the right wing become so powerful without our knowledge?

These thugs aren't some aliens from outer space. They are mostly hometown boys and men who are attempting a push back. I, for one won't go back to the way things were.

[C0LLETTE]

So here's my theory: Want change: breed with a homophobe, an antisemite, a racist...seems to me the only way they get it is when it becomes part of family, their price to pay...and even then it's dicey but better than no chance at all.

Bigots seldom if ever change. Like pigs they just bury their ugly snouts deep into the shit hoping no-one notices.

Almost 80 years later and all that breast beating about the Holocaust, "never again" etc, the antisemitism drum beats are every where, even in leftist, Feminist, anti racist movements begun by Jews and heavily supported by Jews.

Ok, think the Jews owe more than anyone else does to making this world just? WTF were you when 6 million Jews were slaughtered and the remainder still cling (against hope ) to creating a rational, sane, equality of human lives?

I am furious about the fucked up support for AntiSemitism. Y'all so eager to expose Trump's lies and yet so ignorant of centuries of lies that have formed so many of your world views about your fellow humans.

I do not believe we would have reached this point in the development of our credo without the "Judaeo" contribution part of it and I cannot understand why Jews are being blamed for the rest of you fucking that up and shitting on each-other.

If someone wants to take me on on this, I'll be happy to engage but I will no longer accept the response "gee, I never saw any of this here".

[JDeere]

What about the NATIVE Americans that were slaughtered for their land? Because white men are racist?

Stop playing the other cards of one race or religion is worse off, white men commited a gigantic genocide way before any of this other stuff came along. My ancestors were killed off, they were the first to acknowledge and accept trans people aka two spirits, way more accepting than another other race/religion on earth!!!!!!


So yeah the glbt community still has a long way to go but we all know where it starts! Withing ourselves, we have to get along and unite no matter what for the outside world to help us move ahead.



"When you were born, you cried and the world rejoiced. Live your life so that when you die, the world cries and you rejoice"

White Elk

[CherylNYC]

Originally Posted by JDeere

What about the NATIVE Americans that were slaughtered for their land? Because white men are racist?

Stop playing the other cards of one race or religion is worse off, white men commited a gigantic genocide way before any of this other stuff came along. My ancestors were killed off, they were the first to acknowledge and accept trans people aka two spirits, way more accepting than another other race/religion on earth!!!!!!


So yeah the glbt community still has a long way to go but we all know where it starts! Withing ourselves, we have to get along and unite no matter what for the outside world to help us move ahead.



"When you were born, you cried and the world rejoiced. Live your life so that when you die, the world cries and you rejoice"

White Elk

Absolutely. The Native American genocide has never been nearly adequately addressed, and in some ways continues to this day. Why do you blame only white men? Many white women were/are complicit in racist acts and policies against Native peoples.

[JDeere]

Originally Posted by CherylNYC

Absolutely. The Native American genocide has never been nearly adequately addressed, and in some ways continues to this day. Why do you blame only white men? Many white women were/are complicit in racist acts and policies against Native peoples.

Well when I say white men it means men and women. Sorry i was quite upset when posting so I wasn't specific. And you are correct women are just the same as men in being complicit.

[C0LLETTE]

Does not responding to someone indicate you agree with them or simply mean
you don't want to be banned for offending someone with a penchant for reporting people?

[MsTinkerbelly]

Originally Posted by C0LLETTE

Does not responding to someone indicate you agree with them or simply mean
you don't want to be banned for offending someone with a penchant for reporting people?

I’m not sure if this was directed at me or not, but I will only answer for myself. When I do not respond to a post it might mean a couple of things...

1. It was off topic and I just skipped it
2. It was far above my mental level and I cannot intelligently answer it.
3. I am not wanting to get into an arguement and open a can of whipass.

In this case, we were discussing a perfect world where we could all come together and sing kumbyah, and I pointed out how far from THAT ideal we still were.

I agreed with the content of your post, but felt unable to form an intelligent response.

[homoe]

Originally Posted by MsTinkerbelly

But we really haven’t gained more than marriage equality!

People can still refuse services, jobs, housing...children can be thrown out of their homes and no one locks up their parents, our transgender brothers and sisters are being murdered in the streets.

In 8-9 years these things have not changed because of fear; fear of someone different, someone who dares to march to their own drummer. Do you want to know when we will be fully accepted into this world? Ask our citizens of color when they got acceptance, add a hundred years, and maybe we will as well.

Unless people keep waving their bibles at us...and then all bets are off.


***This post is not directed at you homoe, except that it was a starting point for my rant.

No offense taken! I enjoy other points of view..