2020 Presidential Election

[Martina]

Well, Beto has declared. I like this Buttigieg guy. That meme of his reaction to the idea of Pence as President was a riot. And so real. It sounds like Biden's going to announce soon.

Tulsi Gabbard's apology/explanation for her homophobia did not strike me as heart felt. Who knows?

[dark_crystal]

Dear Beto:



signed, someone who voted for you for Senate

[dark_crystal]

Originally Posted by Martina

Well, Beto has declared. I like this Buttigieg guy. That meme of his reaction to the idea of Pence as President was a riot. And so real. It sounds like Biden's going to announce soon.

Tulsi Gabbard's apology/explanation for her homophobia did not strike me as heart felt. Who knows?

I really like Mayor Pete! The CNN Town Hall he did on Sunday was amazing-- so intelligent, thoughtful, and authentic.

He said he has 85% of the donors he needs for the debate stage.

[C0LLETTE]

A Canadian POV: Read at your own risk

Watching Beto in Iowa. Turns every question into a speech full of "anecdotes" of meeting this person or that; uses first name of his son Ulysses repeatedly. Sure is slick.

This Canadian much prefers Mayor Pete...no bombast, no arms waving, just thoughtful intelligent, often charming responses.And no two handed thumping handshakes.

[MsTinkerbelly]

Originally Posted by C0LLETTE

A Canadian POV: Read at your own risk

Watching Beto in Iowa. Turns every question into a speech full of "anecdotes" of meeting this person or that; uses first name of his son Ulysses repeatedly. Sure is slick.

This Canadian much prefers Mayor Pete...no bombast, no arms waving, just thoughtful intelligent, often charming responses.And no two handed thumping handshakes.

I thought i was the only one that doesn’t care for Beto! The disjointed arm waving and spastic movements are unbearable to watch, and he manages to say nothing and still talk ceaselessly.

From what I have seen so far, we don’t have a winner among the bunch of candidates queuing up for the Democratic nomination...i’m starting to feel that beating Trump is going to take a miracle.

[charley]

I wonder whether those (on this site) who would like to see someone beat Trump are aware that the prospective Dem candidate must appeal to the average American (who may have voted for Trump in the past election), and not necessarily appeal to those here who are not at all the same as the average American ... said with the greatest respect, and obviously someone who I myself might not like either as the one who the Dems choose to run against Trump.

In our words, in this small little oasis, our povs may be counterproductive in terms of supporting the Dems winning.

[MsTinkerbelly]

Originally Posted by charley

I wonder whether those (on this site) who would like to see someone beat Trump are aware that the prospective Dem candidate must appeal to the average American (who may have voted for Trump in the past election), and not necessarily appeal to those here who are not at all the same as the average American ... said with the greatest respect, and obviously someone who I myself might not like either as the one who the Dems choose to run against Trump.

In our words, in this small little oasis, our povs may be counterproductive in terms of supporting the Dems winning.

I know we Americans appear to be incredibly stupid about our own political system, but we know that what WE (here on BFP) want is not a true sampling of what the dumbed down American public might vote for...dear God, do you have to be so patronizing?

[charley]

Originally Posted by MsTinkerbelly

I thought i was the only one that doesn’t care for Beto! The disjointed arm waving and spastic movements are unbearable to watch, and he manages to say nothing and still talk ceaselessly.

From what I have seen so far, we don’t have a winner among the bunch of candidates queuing up for the Democratic nomination...i’m starting to feel that beating Trump is going to take a miracle.

Trump made a similar denigrating comment about Beto's arm movements.

I watched the same coffee room intro and Q&A in Iowa as others did earlier today, and he did say something, actually quite a lot - about tariffs, about climate change, about teachers' salaries, even about accepting the "idea" of the new green deal, etc.

[~ocean]

Originally Posted by charley

Trump made a similar denigrating comment about Beto's arm movements.

I watched the same coffee room intro and Q&A in Iowa as others did earlier today, and he did say something, actually quite a lot - about tariffs, about climate change, about teachers' salaries, even about accepting the "idea" of the new green deal, etc.

I have always practiced restraint when discussing another ctry's politics.

[MsTinkerbelly]

Originally Posted by charley

Trump made a similar denigrating comment about Beto's arm movements.

I watched the same coffee room intro and Q&A in Iowa as others did earlier today, and he did say something, actually quite a lot - about tariffs, about climate change, about teachers' salaries, even about accepting the "idea" of the new green deal, etc.

And, we could do this all day. I watched Beto at SXSW, and in speeches prior to that. I think he is disjointed, and spastic, and I don’t give a flying fuck if Trump said anything about anyone.

You are way off in your patronizing comments and lack of understanding of what I AM SAYING. So, go bother someone else with your comments about OUR politics and my opinion.

[Martina]

Originally Posted by dark_crystal

I really like Mayor Pete! The CNN Town Hall he did on Sunday was amazing-- so intelligent, thoughtful, and authentic.

He said he has 85% of the donors he needs for the debate stage.

He got his 65,000. He'll be debating. A historic day.

[Martina]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...political-data

[Martina]

And didn't I read that Jeb Bush is calling for Republicans to run? That would stir things up. I don't think it will happen. The base still really loves Trump.

[Martina]

Biden saying he has the most progressive record of anyone running --

I don't dislike him, but LOL.

Nobody wants the middle. Lol.

[dark_crystal]

Originally Posted by Martina

Biden saying he has the most progressive record of anyone running --

I don't dislike him, but LOL.

Nobody wants the middle. Lol.

He does not seem to have a listening bone in his body. I just don't feel like you can tell him anything. He has that white-dude self-assurance that is completely certain that he has more to tell you than you could possibly tell him.

[dark_crystal]

Originally Posted by Martina

He got his 65,000. He'll be debating. A historic day.

He is getting a lot of attention bc of the story about him learning Norwegian so he could finish a novel series in which only the first book had been translated, and for his response to Christchurch.

Honestly, we could do soooo much worse than nominating Mayor Pete. He's inexperienced, but he also has very little baggage. And they take half of your white card when you come out, so he still ticks the diversity box that so many centrist dems are insisting on.

And he honestly seems very thoughtful and he has that grace that gay people sometimes get when everybody disappoints you, early on, but you decide to love them anyway.