General Political Discussion

[ksrainbow]

Originally Posted by nhplowboi

Pompeo suggests God sent Trump to save Israel. Mike.....please try and find Dorothy so you can find your way back to Kansas.

This comment is offensive to those of us who reside in the state of Kansas.

Appreciation for my state for educating you to what a jack-ass he is would be lovely-

Thank you-
Ks-

[JDeere]

Hmmm so since the report came out I haven't heard much from Democrats!

I wonder if its cuz there was no collusion found or if they are trying to find a way to find something.

[MsTinkerbelly]

Originally Posted by JDeere

Hmmm so since the report came out I haven't heard much from Democrats!

I wonder if its cuz there was no collusion found or if they are trying to find a way to find something.

There is no crime known as collusion; Trump thought it sounded good, so he stuck with it...the actual charge is conspiracy. The Democrats are not privy yet to the content of the Mueller report, which had a very limited scope given to Mueller. The crimes he found along the way that were committed by various other people, were handed off to the appropriate jurisdiction for prosecution...BUT, as a sitting President cannot be indicted, Muellers report will state what he found regarding crimes, conspiracies, and obstruction of justice...it will then be up to Congress to Impeach or bring charges.

Of course he could be innocent, but he himself said he fired Comey to stop the investigation.

[cathexis]

Originally Posted by MsTinkerbelly

There is no crime known as collusion; Trump thought it sounded good, so he stuck with it...the actual charge is conspiracy. The Democrats are not privy yet to the content of the Mueller report, which had a very limited scope given to Mueller. The crimes he found along the way that were committed by various other people, were handed off to the appropriate jurisdiction for prosecution...BUT, as a sitting President cannot be indicted, Muellers report will state what he found regarding crimes, conspiracies, and obstruction of justice...it will then be up to Congress to Impeach or bring charges.

Of course he could be innocent, but he himself said he fired Comey to stop the investigation.

What law can you document the DOJ policy of not indicting a sitting president. There is merely a policy of not indicting, as I am aware of, which is quite different from being in the US Constitution. Having listened and read opinions of contemporary legal scholars on whether or not indictment while in office is being accepted as a remedy. Those read, listened to, run the political gambit.

From Frm. US prosecutors, Ivy League professors, Law students, and US Constitution student discussion groups. Very few have referenced a law and/or Constitutional Sect. permitting the US President to be beyond the ability of indictment, during office. I, also, have read the US Constitution along with cases and independent opinions, and have been unable to locate anything that would exempt the President, either.

Please, help us locate any areas or cases that might prove otherwise.

[MsTinkerbelly]

Originally Posted by cathexis

What law can you document the DOJ policy of not indicting a sitting president. There is merely a policy of not indicting, as I am aware of, which is quite different from being in the US Constitution. Having listened and read opinions of contemporary legal scholars on whether or not indictment while in office is being accepted as a remedy. Those read, listened to, run the political gambit.

From Frm. US prosecutors, Ivy League professors, Law students, and US Constitution student discussion groups. Very few have referenced a law and/or Constitutional Sect. permitting the US President to be beyond the ability of indictment, during office. I, also, have read the US Constitution along with cases and independent opinions, and have been unable to locate anything that would exempt the President, either.

Please, help us locate any areas or cases that might prove otherwise.

Ummm, I never said there is a law regarding being indicted...you must have read something into my post that wasn’t there. It is current policy to not indict a sitting President...although i’m sure if he murdered someone there would be an exception. Maybe?

[nhplowboi]

Originally Posted by MsTinkerbelly

Ummm, I never said there is a law regarding being indicted...you must have read something into my post that wasn’t there. It is current policy to not indict a sitting President...although i’m sure if he murdered someone there would be an exception. Maybe?

Well if Trump does it on Fifth Avenue and he uses a gun.......geeze that sounds a little like a game of Clue.

[ksrainbow]

https://www.cjonline.com/news/201904...migration-czar

Welcome to my world..

Ks-

[C0LLETTE]

The Mueller report hasn't been released to Congress and the public yet and it is so sad ( and disgusting ) to see all those Democratic "talking heads" already backing up and saying "oh well there are still other ongoing investigations" and babbling on about Justice Department policy. "So be prepared to lose, folks." On the other hand, Trump never prepares his base to lose.

If Trump's victory in 2016, and events since, should have taught Democrats anything, it should be: never give up, never back up, and don't think that the voting public understands or cares about details in the weeds.

Demagogues just don't screw around.

So now we'll see which form of victory, Trump chooses. The report isn't out yet but I suspect he is preparing for victory and the Democrats are preparing for loss. We'll see.

[C0LLETTE]

I believe that the USA, Canada, the West, Europe are sliding ever faster into the slime pit of Fascism... the natural comfort zone of the majority of their populations ( possibly all human populations ).

Doesn't mean the minority ( minorities ) have to give up but they sure as Hell better find some better leaders soon...and if those "leaders" can only come from established well-funded political parties you may as well start ironing your brown/black shirts and swastika arm bands now.

The "Fascist Impulse" doesn't play by polite political rules or respond to religious expressions of decency and prayers. It isn't wishy-washy, apologetic or soul-searching. The Fascist heart wants what it wants.

I keep seeing these expressions of appeal to people's "better angels". Ok, take a photo of one and send it to me and I'll send you photos of millions of human beings slaughtered by their fellow human beings.

Humans are not basically "suicidal " creatures. They are, more likely, deep- buried "Me Firsters" that will leave the footprints of their boots on your drowning head as the over-crowded ferry starts to sink.

[Martina]

Mueller said from the beginning that he would not indict Trump. There could easily be criminal offenses committed by Trump documented in the report.

It does seem to let other Trump family members off the hook.

I really don't care. The point is to elect a Democrat as President. People who support Trump are the lowest form of pond scum in America. They have to live with themselves. Again, I just don't give a shit.