GOT fans: Who Will Kill Cercei Lannister? Predictions?

[Martina]

Why does Varys have to die? He so deserves a reward. He's been right a number of times when most of the characters get most things wrong. Plus he's worked so hard for a just Kingdom. If we end up with that, he ought to share in the outcome. I love him. I loved that exchange when he asked Tyrion why he makes eunich jokes when he is offended by dwarf jokes. So anachronistic, but so funny.

[dark_crystal]

Originally Posted by Martina

Why does Varys have to die? He so deserves a reward. He's been right a number of times when most of the characters get most things wrong. Plus he's worked so hard for a just Kingdom. If we end up with that, he ought to share in the outcome. I love him. I loved that exchange when he asked Tyrion why he makes eunich jokes when he is offended by dwarf jokes. So anachronistic, but so funny.

I just think it would be very on-brand for George R.R. Martin.

The thing that makes the series so addictive is that anybody can die. When they killed Sansa's puppy in episode two they sent the message that nobody is safe no matter how innocent or virtuous. I think only the barest handful of "good" characters will survive.

GRRM will only save minimum amount possible, just enough to still have a semi-catharsis at the end, which catharsis will nevertheless be heavily steeped in irony and martyrdom.

[hagster]

I love this thread! I can't be definitive on my Cersei prediction (mostly because I love the uncertainty of all possibilities) but I think it will be Jaime or The Mountain; I'm not ruling out Sansa though. Cersei's ordered Jaime to be killed if he returns and I don't know why Sansa would leave Winterfell to travel south but there has been much in this series I didn't see coming. What the hell is The Mountain now anyway, a zombie? I don't trust his blind allegiance to Cersei's safety.

I think Varys will live to see the final outcome, but I do think Jon will kill Daenarys when she flips into the justice-driven madness that I think is her fate. Will Jon survive? I can see him dying once he's fulfilled his purpose of being brought back to life by saving the kingdoms from Dany. If this were to happen, who would take the throne? I don't know! Tyrion? I don't see Gendry sitting there. Sansa? No idea how!

After the Battle of Winterfell, I question the GoT philosophy that any big name can die. Cersei must and I believe Daenarys will, but to wipe out the majority of the cast with just 3 episodes to go would be overwhelming unimaginable to me. That being said, I've read that there's an episode still to come that's even bigger than the one we just saw. I love this show!!

[Martina]

I heard that George RR Martin's wife threatened to divorce him if Arya dies.

[Martina]

Originally Posted by hagster

What the hell is The Mountain now anyway, a zombie? I don't trust his blind allegiance to Cersei's safety.

There's got to be another throwdown between The Mountain and The Hound. Just has to be.

[Breathless]

After tonight's episode, I believe that this is what the hound is up to heading back to King's Landing. Good has to win, and I think the Hound is deep down, good.
I also think that however Cersei dies, I think it will be an ambush of sorts with multiple hands involved. She is far too wise for anything less, in my opinion. Cijs… I am really kinda pissed at how Brie was treated, my heart shattered for her.

Originally Posted by Martina

There's got to be another throwdown between The Mountain and The Hound. Just has to be.

[Martina]

Yeah, I'm disappointed in Jaime. And in Jon and Sansa and Varys and Bronn. Jon and Sansa both broke their words. And how stupid is Jon?

Also sorta sad to see Arya turn away from happiness in the expectation of dying. I did like the scene with her and the Hound.

Fucking hated to see one of the dragons go.

Sad episode.

[Martina]

Wow. Well, I guess the question now is who will kill Daenerys.

Goodbye, Jaime, Varys, The Hound.

I thought the episode was really well done.

[kittygrrl]

i'm just not sure i liked the episode last night..I thought Daenerys behaved badly..although i loved seeing the dragon, incinerating children was unnecessary cruelty..but that is Daenerys fault not the dragon's. I can see the writing on the wall..the last dragon will probably have to be killed because he does not fit in a tame world..Jamie trying to save Cersei, also disappointing..she did not deserve it..even though they both die in the end but then life is often filled with regret & disappointment so in retrospect chillingly realistic, Jamie's brother..not sure how i feel about him..he seems to be fine betraying Daenerys for his truly evil sister, excusing her behavior because she loved her children? Not good enough. Encouraging Jamie who was trying to redeem his life to run off with the monster behind most of Jamie's evil
/ Bewildering..i can't follow his reasoning. Yes brother, it's because of you i'm alive therefore i want you to run off with my truly evil sister who wanted me dead? Ridiculous, this isn't wise or kind, it's stupid. also...
There is no way Jon didn't know his sisters would ever keep such a secret. Jon always makes a wrong call with faulty reasoning..is this on purpose? He doesn't strike me as being a good leader overall..yes he is honest and brave, but is not wise. Which means if he ascends to the throne, he will not be there long. This is why i think in Daenerys dream long ago the throne room was empty and the roof was caved in...who should sit on the throne? his sister Ayra.

[dark_crystal]

Originally Posted by hagster

After the Battle of Winterfell, I question the GoT philosophy that any big name can die.

Good point. I expected more deaths from Battle of Winterfell, and i expected at least one of the "big eight" (Dany, Jon/Sansa/Arya/Bran, Jaime/Tyrion/Cersei) to die. They did not and this was off-brand IMO

[dark_crystal]

Originally Posted by hagster

I love this thread! I can't be definitive on my Cersei prediction (mostly because I love the uncertainty of all possibilities) but I think it will be Jaime or The Mountain; I'm not ruling out Sansa though. Cersei's ordered Jaime to be killed if he returns and I don't know why Sansa would leave Winterfell to travel south but there has been much in this series I didn't see coming. What the hell is The Mountain now anyway, a zombie? I don't trust his blind allegiance to Cersei's safety.

I think Varys will live to see the final outcome, but I do think Jon will kill Daenarys when she flips into the justice-driven madness that I think is her fate. Will Jon survive? I can see him dying once he's fulfilled his purpose of being brought back to life by saving the kingdoms from Dany. If this were to happen, who would take the throne?

Dany gotta live long enough to birth Jon's baby

[Gemme]

Originally Posted by dark_crystal

I think Tyrion will survive. In the books, there is a sense that he is the main character, in my reading. I think he will be the one we see walking off into the sunset in the last scene, possibly with wife Sansa. Maybe breaking the fourth wall or speaking in voiceover to provide a final frame around everything that has happened

I would not be surprised if Arya dies. She has made her life about vengeance and there would be no place for that spirit in the peacetime world that should be the end result of all this struggle.

Other survival predictions (since we're here)...

Survives:

• Tyrion
• Sansa
• Jon
• Bronn
• Sam

Dies:

• Dany
• Arya
• Jaime
• Cersei
• Brienne
• Bran
• Davos
• The Hound
• Varys

Ohhhh, I hope I hope I hope you are wrong. I adore Arya. She's my favorite character and the one I feel has made the most growth throughout the series.

Originally Posted by Martina

I heard that George RR Martin's wife threatened to divorce him if Arya dies.

If that's true, I like that woman.

[Martina]

Originally Posted by Gemme

If that's true, I like that woman.

http://mentalfloss.com/article/57230...rk-sisters-die

[BullDog]

I have read all 5 of the A Song of Ice and Fire books that Martin has published so far and none of these plot twists sound even remotely familiar to me. Are they based on the next two books that are supposed to come out (which of course have been delayed by many years) or just stuff the tv producers are making up? I haven't seen the TV series at all but I'm just curious how much it is veering away from the books. Sorry if this is a derail to the thread. I'm just curious.

[dark_crystal]

Originally Posted by BullDog

I have read all 5 of the A Song of Ice and Fire books that Martin has published so far and none of these plot twists sound even remotely familiar to me. Are they based on the next two books that are supposed to come out (which of course have been delayed by many years) or just stuff the tv producers are making up? I haven't seen the TV series at all but I'm just curious how much it is veering away from the books. Sorry if this is a derail to the thread. I'm just curious.

They used up all of the material in the novels at least two seasons ago. Since then they have been making stuff up, under the supervision and with the guidance of GRRM.

Theoretically the two upcoming books will follow the series instead of vice-versa. Although i think GRRM has reserved the right to diverge if he wants.

[dark_crystal]

Originally Posted by dark_crystal

Dany gotta live long enough to birth Jon's baby

Dany could survive tomorrow night by announcing her pregnancy

[kittygrrl]

Originally Posted by dark_crystal

Dany could survive tomorrow night by announcing her pregnancy

yes..but this dark tale will not have a happy ending..i think that is the whole point of his books..we are doomed..if not, i would love it however i don't think so..

[Gemme]

Originally Posted by dark_crystal

Dany could survive tomorrow night by announcing her pregnancy

Thanks to her, there's not many people left to hear it.

[charley]

I really liked the ending...

[Gemme]

I think everyone is where they should be. Good job!