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Old 05-14-2019, 06:05 PM   #1
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Cool What a mess

Well, looks like none of the main predictions of witches et al and other theories came true... who knew?

Quite the epic end to Cersei and Jaime, the Hound, and Varys, and King's Landing. (Shame about Varys, considering he was the only one who knew what Danaerys was really like.) Never liked Jaime - not since he pushed the kid out of the tower.

Danaerys destroys all. None of the remaining heroes will be happy about that - quite the wake-up shock for all of them. But, they all hitched their dreams on Danaerys' leadership; of course, sacrificing integrity for power. Gee, it's just like the real world (lol). Oh, well. Am quite speechless. At least, Arya survived. She was always my favourite, and there she goes - riding off into the ... on the white horse.
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The only good reason to have Catelyn Stark back is to kill her again. Maybe Jon will though, poor guy, he has enough kin complications.

I'm trying to think if I care who's on the throne. I'm not sure I do as long as it's not Dany.

Sansa has been presented as a strong administrator who sees through treachery and faces the truth. I think the fact that she never fell for Dany's line makes her the front runner. Sansa is a rock compared to Jon and Tyrion.

I hope all that mystical shit doesn't happen cause I don't care about it. What makes a good ruler interests me. The Lord of Light . . . Yawn.
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I am not so convinced that Cersie is dead. Trapped for a minute, maybe... Jamie dead.. okay, that I can believe since he went in there with possible serious injuries. It just couldn't have been that easy. The Hound-- fantastic!! I applaud him taking his power back.

I see Danaerys, killing or attempting to kill Tyrion. She did say that his next betrayal would be his last, and we all know that the guards had to have told her about Jamie's escape the night before during Tyrion's visit. I think Arya added Danaerys to her list of who must die when she saw the child she was trying to save burned to death in her mothers arms. Arya has murdered people for lesser crimes. I don't see Jon saving Danaerys, aunt or not, his loyalities are still Stark and his love for peace. I still think that Tyrion is going to kill his not really dead sister.
I don't know.. that's my thoughts.
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The only good reason to have Catelyn Stark back is to kill her again. Maybe Jon will though, poor guy, he has enough kin complications.

I'm trying to think if I care who's on the throne. I'm not sure I do as long as it's not Dany.

Sansa has been presented as a strong administrator who sees through treachery and faces the truth. I think the fact that she never fell for Dany's line makes her the front runner. Sansa is a rock compared to Jon and Tyrion.

I hope all that mystical shit doesn't happen cause I don't care about it. What makes a good ruler interests me. The Lord of Light . . . Yawn.
I was reminded yesterday that Catelyn Stark was not resurrected in the TV version? (The question mark is bc i have not confirmed this)
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I was reminded yesterday that Catelyn Stark was not resurrected in the TV version? (The question mark is bc i have not confirmed this)
It's true. It was decided not to include this part of the book..not sure of the reason...she was mean to him..and never fair and took out her disappoint for husband's mistake on an innocent child..albeit she was not told the true story notwithstanding..she was not a good mother, kind of a nightmare really...the red wedding was horrific ..i stopped watching GOT for a while.
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Yeah, she's kind of a classic portrayal of a mother you love to hate. And that's on GRRM. He created some amazing female characters, but there is sexism there as well. That said, I really disliked Catelyn. Not as much as internet boys, but she is good as the over intense joyless but ineffective mother. So long suffering and grit your teeth angry. And of course she fucks up. The mother who fails to protect. She was designed to be hated. Hard not to even when you realize that.
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