2020 Presidential Election

[charley]

Ya know, I have always felt and thought that if you give someone enough rope, they will hang themselves. The Republicans have thought that they could get away with anything and everything, and noone would care or notice. Finally, their corrupt behaviour has become so outrageous... that they have finally been caught in doing something that is so simple for anyone to understand just how wrong it is. And, the most wonderfully intelligent Pelosi has been waiting patiently for Trump and Co. (and Giuliani and even Barr) to put their big smelly feet in their mouths and destroy themselves. I think this will be the beginning of the end for the Trump and those Republicans. Finally, impeachment is coming!! BIG GRIN...

[MsTinkerbelly]

Originally Posted by charley

Ya know, I have always felt and thought that if you give someone enough rope, they will hang themselves. The Republicans have thought that they could get away with anything and everything, and noone would care or notice. Finally, their corrupt behaviour has become so outrageous... that they have finally been caught in doing something that is so simple for anyone to understand just how wrong it is. And, the most wonderfully intelligent Pelosi has been waiting patiently for Trump and Co. (and Giuliani and even Barr) to put their big smelly feet in their mouths and destroy themselves. I think this will be the beginning of the end for the Trump and those Republicans. Finally, impeachment is coming!! BIG GRIN...

Maybe, maybe not.

The outcome of this will be decided by what Trump says going forward, and what the American people will tolerate. What I mean, is if Trump will quit speaking, there is really no case for Impeachment. At this point, with no recordings of the conversations, he can get away with “he said, she said”, and what he feels was his intent.

THEN, we have to get a majority of the population (democrat and republican) to MAKE their representatives and senators vote for impeachment...because right now, they are too worried about losing their cushy jobs then they are about doing the right thing. Trump can be Impeached by the House, but the Senate majority is Republican...that is where the biggest roadblock lies, because like Clinton, if you get impeached in the House but not the Senate, you can continue in office, and even be re-elected.

Soooooo maybe, maybe not.

[dark_crystal]

I love how FOX News keeps trying to make sure Joe Biden gets some mud on him, too. Like, "if you trash our guy, we're going to make sure your guy gets hurt, too, fair warning!"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA like taking Biden out won't be a bonus to me, please proceed

[MsTinkerbelly]

Originally Posted by dark_crystal

I love how FOX News keeps trying to make sure Joe Biden gets some mud on him, too. Like, "if you trash our guy, we're going to make sure your guy gets hurt, too, fair warning!"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA like taking Biden out won't be a bonus to me, please proceed

Biden is almost as scary as Trump as a choice for me.

Every time is see Biden he says something utterly stupid, and grows more and more feeble looking everyday. I am not against older people, but after the age of 65-70 they should run a country? The stress, the energy needed?

I know I am far more conservative than your average Democrat, but the extreme left of Sanders and Warren also freak me out...we are on the edge of a financial collapse in this country, yet they are convinced that we can and should do much more “free stuff” for people unable or unwilling to get off of their lazy asses and work for what they get.

Omg, we are printing money like there is something backing it all up, the Fed is contemplating a NEGATIVE interest rate, and they want free Medicare and College for all?

Sorry for the rant...

[Apocalipstic]

I don't want anything free. I am fine with paying more taxes, if that includes health care and education for all. Not free.

I don't believe this is about people too lazy to work. Its about systemic suppression and exploitation of the poor. Kind of like a feudal system.

We are only as strong as our weakest resident. And right now, with people in cages, we are pretty damn weak.

I will vote against Trump. Period.

I like Joe Biden, but do agree that he is losing weight and it makes him look feeble. I am a huge fan of Elizabeth Warren, but also like her being in the Senate. Bernie? Is consistent. Also fine with him. I am not sure yet who I will support in the primary.

I think if we make corporations and the rich pay taxes in the US, we can afford these things easily. No one child in the US should fall asleep hungry ever. EVER.

Great discussion! Love the different opinions!!

[MsTinkerbelly]

Well, i’m NOT okay with paying more taxes so people get free Medicare and College. The middle class as a whole is not okay with paying more taxes so people get free Medicare and College.

Did you see the story...oh about a week ago where the DEMOCRATS on Wallstreet said they would withdraw all political funding if Warren is the Democratic candidate? The rich will play their tax games, the middle class will foot the bill; do you know that the middle class (if there is such a thing anymore), gets smaller and smaller everyday? There are more poor everyday...people who not only DON’T pay taxes, but get back tax credits aimed at the poor with children?

We are TRILLIONS and TRILLIONS in debt to countries like China, and we blithely go about living above our means (the country, not you) because we WANT, and by God the Government owes us?

You may not want anything for free, I may not want anything for free...but we support 66 MILLION Americans every day with food programs that put us deeper into debt, and that the MIDDLE class pays for because “oh we can’t let our people starve”.

This country has to wake up, get back to States making laws, and get rid the the bloated fat cats in Washington. But, it’s probably too late....

Oh, and as far as people in cages? They are here ILLEGALLY!! Send them all back across the boarder, hunt down the rest here with no legal right and send them back across, and then shoot everyone who tries it again. Poof, no more cages!

*** has no claim to being politically correct***

[Kätzchen]

One of the things I cherish about taking the time to observe and listen, at my own pace and not at the speed of Social Media (ie, Twitter, FB or any other media platform), is that it's possible to ascertain a better 'picture' of the 24/7 emotionally and intellectually taxing responsibility to make sure that our country does not succumb to the chaos driven climate ruining lunacy of the narcissist who occupies the WH and the cronies that person uses to further their agenda.

I am SOOOO impressed with Nancy Pelosi. Wow. I have stood in awe of her ability to not cave and to keep her self positioned accordingly as a stalwart person of integrity; a person who is not easily swept aside by the incessant toxic culture that is pervasive and threatens to destabilize the very existence of the democracy in this country. I can't think of any person who even comes close to her brand or style of leadership. I've often wanted to write a thank you letter to her for the way she has stood by The People and upheld tenets of Democracy, especially with wave after wave and assault after assault by the very person in the WH who does not even care about the well being of people who call America their home.

I read an article on CNN tonight. It was an analysis of sorts. Over 20 seats occupied by the GOP are up for election or re-election and if Democrats can occupy those seats and gain a few more, then the House and the Senate will be occupied and under the control of Democrats. No matter who is elected POTUS. To me, if Democrats maintain control of The House and then gain control of The Senate, then that is the 'light at the end of the tunnel', I think. I can see why Nancy Pelosi is very concerned about both The House of Representatives and gaining control of The Senate. I like her laser focus on this the most.

I am grateful tonight for the laser focus of Democrats who have been staying the course, during these very frightful times. They are the proverbial "Statue of Liberty" to me. They are the beacon of light, during the very dark oppressive political unrest our country is suffering through.

I'm grateful too, for the Obama era judges appointed to Federal Courts, who keep saying "NO" to those who would take away the rights of women, people of color, or members of minority groups who have little to no privilege or social representation in protective ways.

I long for the day when people adopt the principle of … "Do No Harm."

Hate cannot be privileged over kindness.

Was it not the 16th President Abraham Lincoln, who said that "It is a sin to be silent when it's your duty to protest?"

Here's to every single person who will not be silent. Here's to every person who demands Justice for All. Here's to every person who will actively work toward making our country "The Land of The Free".

Right now, America has never been more ugly.

In almost one year from now, I hope our country can once again be....

America, The Beautiful.