2020 Presidential Election

[Martina]

So, if you had to choose between Elizabeth Warren and Pete Buttigieg, which one would get your vote and why?

[Kätzchen]

I am leaving room in my mind so I can make an decision later about who will get my vote. Bottom line: I'm voting for any democrat on the ticket. No matter who is endorsed by the Democrats for President.

Super proud of US Diplomat's overseeing Ukraine affairs, who have spoke out about the latest fiasco caused by you-know-who.

I have no idea how dirty and down right ugly it will get with removing that monster from the WH, but I'm sure it will be as ugly and dirty as it could possibly be because that's how controlling, manipulative, and pathologically disturbed personalities seem to operate. They never leave quietly. They have no conscience and are unable to care about anything. Which is sad and heartbreaking.

All I know is I am so grateful for those who DO have a conscience and remain committed to upholding democracy for the sake of everyone in our country. Their efforts are beyond heroic and I do not take their vigilance and tireless efforts for granted.

[CherylNYC]

Originally Posted by Martina

So, if you had to choose between Elizabeth Warren and Pete Buttigieg, which one would get your vote and why?

I'm for Warren. She worked hard to generate sophisticated, viable plans, and she gets better and better at campaigning. I prefer Buttigeig's health plan- 'Medicare for All Who Want It', to Warren and Sanders's 'Medicare For All', but I doubt any of them will be able to shepherd either of those plans through the legislature. Otherwise I like everything about Warren. I think she's going to win the nomination, too.

That said, I agree with Katzchen. I'm voting for the Democrat, even if it's Biden.

[dark_crystal]

Originally Posted by Martina

So, if you had to choose between Elizabeth Warren and Pete Buttigieg, which one would get your vote and why?

Warren. I started out liking Pete but as a candidate he seems a little Manchurian to me now

[charley]

Originally Posted by Martina

So, if you had to choose between Elizabeth Warren and Pete Buttigieg, which one would get your vote and why?

Warren was the only one who got my attention, and who I actually watched attentively in the debate. I don't trust any of the men (ditto in Canadian politics). [P.S.: Jody Wilson-Raybould - the Canadian Attorney-General and justice minister who lost her job in the majority Liberal govt because of the SNC-Lavalin scandal and Trudeau's lack of integrity, ran as an Independent in B.C., and won! ] As a Canadian, obviously, I can't vote. But as a member of this site, am only throwing in my 2 cents.

[~ocean]

we need to physically remove Trump ~ the republicans looked like school yard fools w/ their activity today ~ desperate actions ~ we are even more divided the longer Trump is left in office ~ now I know why some ctry's throw shoes lol DUCK TRUMP incoming !!!

[cathexis]

Originally Posted by Martina

So, if you had to choose between Elizabeth Warren and Pete Buttigieg, which one would get your vote and why?

Warren has the experience necessary for representing the US in the International arena. Her healthcare model is one of the better among the candidates. Buttigieg may improve with more experience, but he is a little too religious and conservative.
Like many others here, I will vote for any of the Democrats. Would rather vote third party Socialist, but will not waste my vote risking Trump remaining in office. I would vote for a lemur if it would get Trump OUT.

[Martina]

Well, Beto is gone. From The Guardian, discussing reasons the campaign failed:

O’Rourke came up against a younger, smarter version of himself: Pete Buttigieg, the 37-year-old mayor of South Bend, Indiana, a military veteran who spoke more fluently, offered crisper policy prescriptions and stole O’Rourke’s thunder – as well as many of his potential voters.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...2020-democrats

[dark_crystal]

Texas Democratic Primary (3/3/2020) Polling as of 9/15/2019

Biden
28%
O'Rourke
19%
Sanders
17%
Warren
11%
Booker
6%
Harris
6%
Castro
4%
Buttigieg
4%

It will be VERY interesting to see who benefits most from Beto quitting. It could be Buttigieg! He's doing better nationally than he has any right to be

Also I think a whole bunch of them are about to quit.

[Kätzchen]

I rarely watch TV, but I am sitting at a family member's home this morning, watching a GOP controlled local TV station, whose anchor is interviewing someone who the majority of GOP viewers view as a credible source of information. *PUKE*

They're talking about how Walden (R-Oregon) is stepping down from his twenty year tenure of reigning on the Oregon House Committee for Power/Energy/Utilities. I'm glad he is stepping down for a multitude of reasons, one of which he is in cahoots with Berkshire/Hathaway's Warren Buffett who is a gazillionaire of extraordinary means, and most likely has steered policy in favor of Buffett for years and years.

All this to say, is that I am worried sick over who Republicans will help elect another puppet to take Walden's place. It's a complication in Oregon politics because Oregon, with the exception of the 'Pale Blue Dot', is a bonafide "RED" state.

The GOP is not the GOP of the Eisenhower years … or maybe the GOP has been that way all along and it's only now, nearly after 50 years of my life, that I truly am able to see how sick the GOP actually is and has been, all along.

I'm grateful we have Gov Kate Brown (DEM) in office still, but when it's time to elect an governor in two years or so, it's worrisome to me the problematic issues that still dominate Oregon politics (Labor issues, Tax issues, Corporate Raider issues, Toxic members of the GOP who pass policy that is harmful to residents of Oregon, etc).

I actually saw an article online at CNN about how you-know-who is forecast to win the Presidential election in 2020.

I was like: When will people rise to say, NO F^CKING WAY?

Now that I am in a better work situation, I plan to devote as much free time I have on weekends, to help network in face-to-face situations to help people understand how important it is, to not let the GOP or that monster in the WH have any access at all to any seat of power in the US.

We, the general we, in my estimation, are sitting at an all time high of major change that will impact people for generations to come.

Will people elect a dictator to power again, or will people wake the fuck up and elect a person from the Democratic party to help usher in and promote social order, rather than the daily tide of toxic lies and social harm?

I won't stand by and watch our country go down in flames.

12 months from today. Make it count. Vote BLUE.

[Martina]

Everybody's all nervous about the swing states, but this week seems to indicate that Democrats are getting back the suburbs and the Obama/Trump voters. If so, that means Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan return to blue. Trump could still win. And he does have the cheating Republican party and the Kremlin working for him. I've been playing with an electoral college map, and my best predictions make it all come down to Colorado for a seven electoral vote victory for whoever wins it. Our future in the hands of Colorado? Well, they went blue in 2016, so maybe we are ok.

[Martina]

So, Bloomberg. What do you think?