2020 Presidential Election

[Kätzchen]

I rarely watch TV, but I am sitting at a family member's home this morning, watching a GOP controlled local TV station, whose anchor is interviewing someone who the majority of GOP viewers view as a credible source of information. *PUKE*

They're talking about how Walden (R-Oregon) is stepping down from his twenty year tenure of reigning on the Oregon House Committee for Power/Energy/Utilities. I'm glad he is stepping down for a multitude of reasons, one of which he is in cahoots with Berkshire/Hathaway's Warren Buffett who is a gazillionaire of extraordinary means, and most likely has steered policy in favor of Buffett for years and years.

All this to say, is that I am worried sick over who Republicans will help elect another puppet to take Walden's place. It's a complication in Oregon politics because Oregon, with the exception of the 'Pale Blue Dot', is a bonafide "RED" state.

The GOP is not the GOP of the Eisenhower years … or maybe the GOP has been that way all along and it's only now, nearly after 50 years of my life, that I truly am able to see how sick the GOP actually is and has been, all along.

I'm grateful we have Gov Kate Brown (DEM) in office still, but when it's time to elect an governor in two years or so, it's worrisome to me the problematic issues that still dominate Oregon politics (Labor issues, Tax issues, Corporate Raider issues, Toxic members of the GOP who pass policy that is harmful to residents of Oregon, etc).

I actually saw an article online at CNN about how you-know-who is forecast to win the Presidential election in 2020.

I was like: When will people rise to say, NO F^CKING WAY?

Now that I am in a better work situation, I plan to devote as much free time I have on weekends, to help network in face-to-face situations to help people understand how important it is, to not let the GOP or that monster in the WH have any access at all to any seat of power in the US.

We, the general we, in my estimation, are sitting at an all time high of major change that will impact people for generations to come.

Will people elect a dictator to power again, or will people wake the fuck up and elect a person from the Democratic party to help usher in and promote social order, rather than the daily tide of toxic lies and social harm?

I won't stand by and watch our country go down in flames.

12 months from today. Make it count. Vote BLUE.

[Martina]

Everybody's all nervous about the swing states, but this week seems to indicate that Democrats are getting back the suburbs and the Obama/Trump voters. If so, that means Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan return to blue. Trump could still win. And he does have the cheating Republican party and the Kremlin working for him. I've been playing with an electoral college map, and my best predictions make it all come down to Colorado for a seven electoral vote victory for whoever wins it. Our future in the hands of Colorado? Well, they went blue in 2016, so maybe we are ok.

[Martina]

So, Bloomberg. What do you think?

[dark_crystal]

Originally Posted by Martina

So, Bloomberg. What do you think?

I think he saw Biden flailing and decided he needed to put on his capitalist cape and swoop in to save us from Bernie/Warren

[Martina]

Mayor Pete's moving on up.

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/11/12/pol...www.cnn.com%2F

[Martina]

Warren dropped by half. It's either her Medicare plan, which supports those a who think centrist policies will prevail, or just Mayor Pete doing better at her expense. Biden is still on top. Biden looks frail, and Pete is pretty cool. But if it's all about winning the general election, and you had to choose between those two, Biden would be the better bet. But Sanders is still number two, and polls show him doing better against Trump than Biden would. And he held his own in the same poll so I don't think this is a reaction to Medicare for all. Pete's just kicking ass out there.

[charley]

Originally Posted by Martina

Warren dropped by half. It's either her Medicare plan, which supports those a who think centrist policies will prevail, or just Mayor Pete doing better at her expense. Biden is still on top. Biden looks frail, and Pete is pretty cool. But if it's all about winning the general election, and you had to choose between those two, Biden would be the better bet. But Sanders is still number two, and polls show him doing better against Trump than Biden would. And he held his own in the same poll so I don't think this is a reaction to Medicare for all. Pete's just kicking ass out there.

My original thought was that Warren was doing well until she announced her policy - that is, eliminating choice for health care, and how she would finance it. That just won't wash for a large majority of Americans. After keeping an eye on polls and watching news, it still seems that that is the case. I wonder if it is possible now for Warren to backtrack and change her mind on that. It just seems so strange to me that these candidates seem to be entirely locked in their positions. Doesn't anyone talk to them and advise them that they might lose 'cause they won't budge on their positions? I mean, doesn't anyone worry enough that Trump might win a second term, unless some candidate rises to the top against him that is willing to understand that most Americans who vote Democrat have a moderate bent?

Pete is doing well 'cause of his "centrist"/moderate viewpoint and this appeals to many Americans, and this is also why Biden is still ahead in the polls (I still don't trust Pete).