2020 Presidential Election

[C0LLETTE]

Been reading about the DSA, seems it has fewer members than the Rotary Club.
When the shit hits the fan and being a "socialist" in America starts to have zero cachet and can actually get you hung and wont get you invited to a gallery opening...I'd bet on the Rotary.

The only Socialists I respect are the ones that live it and have lived it for years and will still be living it when it's no longer de rigueur to drink Manhattans, , Negronis, and hoist a Mimosa to Marx on Sunday mornings. No fun being a socialist when everyone else can be one. But till then drink beer and hope the poor notice.

[BullDog]

I have no clue who Will Menaker is but no way.

Oh yeah, let the little woman step aside for the great man. I'm sure Elizabeth Warren's supporters who have heard all the Bernie Bros calling her a liar, Pocahontas, etc. will be "all in."

It's a long race. We've gone through 1 small white state that was a caucus and after NH is over, 2 small white states. That's it. Sanders isn't owed anything.

Biden has the most support among black voters, Warren is second and we have much more diverse states coming up. I couldn't find a quick link to the surveys but I saw on AM Joy that a YouGov poll for Democratic Candidate Preference among Registered Black Voters for January 2020 showed Biden 46%, Sanders 17%, and Warren 14%. For February 2020 it was Biden 43%, Warren 14%, Bloomberg 12%, Sanders 8%. Sanders dropped a lot. I'm definitely not ready to crown him king.

I'm not a Pete supporter - it's ridiculous to think you can go from being a mayor of a mid-sized city to President of the United States - but I am definitely seeing plenty of attacks from the Bernie Bros.

If I was someone who begs - which I am not - I'd be begging people to vote for anyone but Sanders so we can avoid a landslide Trump victory and not have the House and Senate dragged down as well.

[Martina]

Every poll for the last month and perhaps before has Sanders beating Trump in the general election.

[C0LLETTE]

"In the general election on November 7, 1972, the McGovern–Shriver ticket suffered a 61 percent to 37 percent defeat to Nixon – at the time, the second biggest landslide in American history, with an Electoral College total of 520 to 17. "

Sad to say, if Sanders becomes the Dem candidate, it's a good bet that the McGovern ticket will move into third place in the landslide sweepstakes.

[Martina]

https://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sand...s-show-1486807

BERNIE SANDERS LEADS ALL DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES IN SUPPORT FROM NON-WHITE VOTERS, NEW POLLS SHOW

[~ocean]

okay wait till u read this !!! Anna Navaro << I think that's how u spell it ~ said that TRUMP likes to be spanked with a rolled up news papers by a stripper !!! I was dusting when I over heard this on CNN ~ I have to say it was btwn. 12:00 and 1:00 pm lolol I was laughing so hard ~ I pictured his bull dog friend BARR and the rest of the TRUMPERS sitting around a card table w/ TRUMP getting spanked by a French poodle dressed like a stripper ~ puts a new twist on a old classic dog picture .

[homoe]

Originally Posted by ~ocean

okay wait till u read this !!! Anna Navaro << I think that's how u spell it ~ said that TRUMP likes to be spanked with a rolled up news papers by a stripper !!! I was dusting when I over heard this on CNN ~ I have to say it was btwn. 12:00 and 1:00 pm lolol I was laughing so hard ~ I pictured his bull dog friend BARR and the rest of the TRUMPERS sitting around a card table w/ TRUMP getting spanked by a French poodle dressed like a stripper ~ puts a new twist on a old classic dog picture .

Well no doubt he'd prohibit any papers rolled from being from the Washington Post and NYTimes....

[homoe]

Originally Posted by ~ocean

okay wait till u read this !!! Anna Navaro << I think that's how u spell it ~ said that TRUMP likes to be spanked with a rolled up news papers by a stripper !!! I was dusting when I over heard this on CNN ~ I have to say it was btwn. 12:00 and 1:00 pm lolol I was laughing so hard ~ I pictured his bull dog friend BARR and the rest of the TRUMPERS sitting around a card table w/ TRUMP getting spanked by a French poodle dressed like a stripper ~ puts a new twist on a old classic dog picture .

I found the following excerpt....

NAVARRO: “Now, on the substance of it, I think it’s downright laughable for somebody to define Donald Trump as the man, the masculine man on the stage. The masculine man on the stage — listen, he’s a draft dodger. This is a guy who wears more pancake makeup than any drag queen I ever saw. This is man whose hair is dyed. This is a man who, you know, allegedly gets spanked with a folded up magazine by a stripper. So I don’t know what the definition is of masculinity or being a man’s man, but I’d much rather a Pete Buttigieg who is loyal and who loves his husband, his one husband, as opposed to a man who cheated on his pregnant wife with a Playboy model and cheated on the Playboy model with a stripper, who then he paid hush money to. So if that’s the definition of masculinity, I will take Pete Buttigieg any day of the week.”

[cathexis]

Originally Posted by C0LLETTE

Been reading about the DSA, seems it has fewer members than the Rotary Club.
When the shit hits the fan and being a "socialist" in America starts to have zero cachet and can actually get you hung and wont get you invited to a gallery opening...I'd bet on the Rotary.

The only Socialists I respect are the ones that live it and have lived it for years and will still be living it when it's no longer de rigueur to drink Manhattans, , Negronis, and hoist a Mimosa to Marx on Sunday mornings. No fun being a socialist when everyone else can be one. But till then drink beer and hope the poor notice.

Had to research DSA (DSA, what?), ok that milk toast group that merged with NAM in the early '80s. Now, I have a handle on what dilute mishmash there're talking about. Yeah, now I recall our Marxist Studies professors discussing NAM (pre-DSA) with disdain. Anti-USSR, Anti-bloc, anti-China, Cuba, and most of the progressive Central and South American movements, and inclusive of most Democratic (big D) issues without any credit to the history where from they sparked. Can't see much difference between them and the DNCC.

How can this group use "Socialist" in their name, even yet their manifesto. So, the word turns off some younger voters. They need to know of the people who fought, were tortured, and were killed paving the way.
The website mentions, "Christian Socialists," as being part of their coalition, a group is either one or the other, but are theoretically opposed. A true socialist or communist doesn't support a position that distracts or soothes people's suffering making them less aware of their plight.

[C0LLETTE]

Seems there are more varieties of "socialists":
Marxism–Leninism.
Mutualism.
Collectivist anarchism.
Anarchist communism.
Anarcho-syndicalism.
Ethical socialism.
Christian socialism.
Christian anarchism.
etc
than there are churches in Oklahoma where every guy with more than 100 sq feet to spare in the back 40 can build his own church and call it whatever he wants as long as it will fit on a billboard right beside the road.

[C0LLETTE]

Quid Pro Quo is Not Dead

gosh what a timing coincidence: baseless case agst McCabe dropped, Mike Flynn ( who pleaded guilty ) case will get a review.

[Martina]

Originally Posted by C0LLETTE

than there are churches in Oklahoma where every guy with more than 100 sq feet to spare in the back 40 can build his own church and call it whatever he wants as long as it will fit on a billboard right beside the road.

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I imagine you can find similar places in Alberta.