2020 Presidential Election

nhplowboi · 02-25-2020, 01:04 PM

Bernie was elected mayor I think at age 40. From what I read he didn't amount to much of anything before that. Maybe he's a late bloomer but I think not.

Martina · 02-25-2020, 04:57 PM

He had a number of jobs. He worked as a carpenter, directed a non-profit which made film strips, wrote freelance, worked as an aide in a psych hospital, did research for the state of Vt, registered people for food stamps for a non profit, worked as a Head Start teacher, and other things. What he was doing was making a living while being an activist. I lived in Ann Arbor back in the day, and there were tons of college educated committed hardworking people doing all kinds of jobs so they could continue their activism. I imagine there were even fewer job opportunities in Vermont. There are lots of politicians who didn't have major careers before politics. I consider his working class roots something to be proud of.

Martina · 02-25-2020, 10:22 PM

Bernie survived the battering he got on the debate stage. A fair number of news organizations, including CNN, listed him as a winner. It helped that the other candidates had Bloomberg to attack, too. I do like Warren. She did really well. I don't know what the people of South Carolina thought, but my guess is the debate may have hurt Bernie a tiny bit. He seems more curmudgeonly in that setting. It was like a brawl, not a good look for anyone really.

BullDog · 02-25-2020, 11:05 PM

I didn't think Sanders had that great of a debate but he wasn't hit hard enough either, so no game-changer - which is good for him.

I thought Biden was strong and he is the only one who looks remotely presidential to me.

Yelling, waving your arms with a red face is not presidential to me. Nor is having hopelessly impractical plans.

Warren is good at attacking Bloomberg but seemed like too much of a repeat to me. I don't mind Bloomberg getting hammered though. She won't go after Bernie so she is pretty much doomed. I agree with her that she is the better progressive to get things done compared to Sanders, but I don't see any Bernie fans switching to her at this point that has not already and many Democrats find her too far left.

Bloomberg was a lot better than last time but still an emotionless robot and hit hard by Warren.

I didn't think the others stood out much.

Martina · 02-26-2020, 04:18 AM

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-super-tuesday

~ocean · 02-26-2020, 05:50 PM

that orange baboon don't even know how many cases their are in the US ~ nor the country's affected by the virus. I'm so embarrassed if anyone see's this from other country's.

Martina · 02-26-2020, 06:28 PM

Well if you trust the polls, Bernie did take a small hit in South Carolina from the drubbing he received last night in the debate although he performed pretty well under the circumstances. Probably, the recent China/Cuba comments didn't help. Strangely, he's polling slightly higher everywhere else there is polling for. Who knows?

02-25-2020, 04:57 PM	#2
Martina Senior Member How Do You Identify?: * Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: * Posts: 4,999 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 13,409 Thanked 18,284 Times in 4,167 Posts Rep Power: 21474854	He had a number of jobs. He worked as a carpenter, directed a non-profit which made film strips, wrote freelance, worked as an aide in a psych hospital, did research for the state of Vt, registered people for food stamps for a non profit, worked as a Head Start teacher, and other things. What he was doing was making a living while being an activist. I lived in Ann Arbor back in the day, and there were tons of college educated committed hardworking people doing all kinds of jobs so they could continue their activism. I imagine there were even fewer job opportunities in Vermont. There are lots of politicians who didn't have major careers before politics. I consider his working class roots something to be proud of. __________________ "No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up" - Lily Tomlin

02-25-2020, 10:22 PM	#3
Martina Senior Member How Do You Identify?: * Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: * Posts: 4,999 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 13,409 Thanked 18,284 Times in 4,167 Posts Rep Power: 21474854	Bernie survived the battering he got on the debate stage. A fair number of news organizations, including CNN, listed him as a winner. It helped that the other candidates had Bloomberg to attack, too. I do like Warren. She did really well. I don't know what the people of South Carolina thought, but my guess is the debate may have hurt Bernie a tiny bit. He seems more curmudgeonly in that setting. It was like a brawl, not a good look for anyone really. __________________ "No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up" - Lily Tomlin

02-25-2020, 11:05 PM	#4
BullDog Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: Dominant Stone Butch Daddy Preferred Pronoun?: She Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: In A Healing Place Posts: 5,371 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 18,160 Thanked 22,640 Times in 4,463 Posts Rep Power: 21474856	I didn't think Sanders had that great of a debate but he wasn't hit hard enough either, so no game-changer - which is good for him. I thought Biden was strong and he is the only one who looks remotely presidential to me. Yelling, waving your arms with a red face is not presidential to me. Nor is having hopelessly impractical plans. Warren is good at attacking Bloomberg but seemed like too much of a repeat to me. I don't mind Bloomberg getting hammered though. She won't go after Bernie so she is pretty much doomed. I agree with her that she is the better progressive to get things done compared to Sanders, but I don't see any Bernie fans switching to her at this point that has not already and many Democrats find her too far left. Bloomberg was a lot better than last time but still an emotionless robot and hit hard by Warren. I didn't think the others stood out much. __________________ Love consists in this, that two solitudes protect and touch and greet each other. - Rainer Maria Rilke

02-26-2020, 04:18 AM	#5
Martina Senior Member How Do You Identify?: * Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: * Posts: 4,999 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 13,409 Thanked 18,284 Times in 4,167 Posts Rep Power: 21474854	https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-super-tuesday __________________ "No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up" - Lily Tomlin

02-26-2020, 05:50 PM	#6
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02-25-2020, 01:04 PM	#1
nhplowboi Member How Do You Identify?: FTM Preferred Pronoun?: male pronouns Relationship Status: Divorcee Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 999 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 5,327 Thanked 3,883 Times in 825 Posts Rep Power: 21474852	*Bernie was elected mayor I think at age 40. From what I read he didn't amount to much of anything before that. Maybe he's a late bloomer but I think not.*

02-26-2020, 06:28 PM	#7
Martina Senior Member How Do You Identify?: * Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: * Posts: 4,999 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 13,409 Thanked 18,284 Times in 4,167 Posts Rep Power: 21474854	Well if you trust the polls, Bernie did take a small hit in South Carolina from the drubbing he received last night in the debate although he performed pretty well under the circumstances. Probably, the recent China/Cuba comments didn't help. Strangely, he's polling slightly higher everywhere else there is polling for. Who knows? __________________ "No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up" - Lily Tomlin