2020 Presidential Election

[GeorgiaMa'am]

Originally Posted by BullDog

The best bet for any change at all is to keep or expand our majority in the House and win back the Senate.

And that is the simple truth. Without a House and Senate to back them up, there is a limited amount that the President can do. The President can pass Executive Orders all he/she wants, but those can easily be overturned as soon as somebody new is in the President's seat.

[charley]

I have just checked Joe Biden's chart, and on the 3rd of November of this year, Biden has Jupiter (luck and prosperity), Pluto (power), and Saturn (responsibility) all trine (the best of good aspects that one can have) his MC (his place in this world), which augurs very well for him winning the presidency. There are other indications which I won't go into, which have much to do with his destiny - and encompass his sense of service, compassion and humanity, traits which mark him and his life.

[BullDog]

Originally Posted by GeorgiaMa'am

And that is the simple truth. Without a House and Senate to back them up, there is a limited amount that the President can do. The President can pass Executive Orders all he/she wants, but those can easily be overturned as soon as somebody new is in the President's seat.

Yes, definitely, and Biden definitely understands this and talks about how important the Senate and House are all the time, so I am confident his campaign in November will focus on this as well as the Presidency if he is the nominee. Maybe if Bloomberg's ego isn't too bruised he will help with that as well.

Well, I am pumped and ready for the Blue Wave! Biden did better than I expected - I never dreamed he would win Massachusetts and Minnesota. I guess Amy Klobuchar knew what she was doing, lol.

I am also ecstatic that Bloomberg did indeed fail bigly! Kudos to the American voters.

Sanders indeed does have a ceiling and still no signs of his huge turnout of youth and new voters. He should go all out to try to win Michigan next week. It was his most impressive win in 2016. I don't think he can overcome Biden overall at this point though.

With all that has happened, I think the bottom line is that most voters are voting strategically and think Biden is the best to beat Trump.

Warren should drop out but hopefully, she doesn't endorse Sanders. After the way he and his followers have treated her, he definitely doesn't deserve it.

[Martina]

Very disappointing day. I don't see a way to the nomination now. Sad day for the planet. I don't see Biden doing a lot about economic inequality. It will be more if the same.

[kittygrrl]

As much as i love that Biden won so many states..i really am worried he will not be strong enough to deal with Trump..he seems tired...I guess we shall see what he will do when he debates Sanders. If he can't defend his policies and deal with his past mistakes, Trump will crush him...and we have to win this time or this country is toast...I have never been a Sanders fan but if he is able to vanquish Biden then it is probably for the best...i hate to admit that..but this is no time to play favorites. I think Sanders will run the country like he has his Senate seat, lots of flailing arms with no good legislation..look at his record...but at least it won't be Trump..I could stand 4 years of normal for a change. So i will hold my nose and vote for Sanders, if it comes to that

[BullDog]

So Rachel Maddow interviewed Sanders tonight and she went over how there has been no significant increase in youth and new voter turn out in the primary so far, including all of the Super Tuesday states, and he just blew off the question and couldn't answer it. He still is claiming he would have record-breaking turnout in the general. Just unreal. His whole premise for being the best candidate to take on Trump is a huge fat lie. It's so irresponsible to make these claims with so much on the line.

[Martina]

I gather young voters did come out in California but not as expected elsewhere. Re Bernie, he did acknowledge that turnout was not what they had hoped though apparently not on Rachel Maddow. I might not admit weakness on her show either if I were Bernie. She would probably do a celebratory dance. She really hates him.

If the DNC and the liberal media help defeat Bernie again, they better follow through and elect their lame ass centrist candidate this time. Last time they couldn't and blamed it on us. Such complete bullshit. But maybe they learned their lesson. Surely no one could be as complacent, arrogant and incompetent as Clinton and her campaign.

[C0LLETTE]

I suppose, we will soon discover whether Warren is a less selfish, self-centred politician ( person ) than Sanders and quits the race. I suspect in all decency and selflessness, she will. Sanders supporters better pray she is, though there is no reason to think it will help them.

Sanders ( and all Americans ) just might reap what he sowed when his intransigence helped get Trump elected with the subsequent result of Gorsuch, Kavanaugh ( and who knows how many more will come ) sitting on the US Supreme Court long after Bernie has moved on to Valhalla.

[~ocean]

Originally Posted by kittygrrl

As much as i love that Biden won so many states..i really am worried he will not be strong enough to deal with Trump..he seems tired...I guess we shall see what he will do when he debates Sanders. If he can't defend his policies and deal with his past mistakes, Trump will crush him...and we have to win this time or this country is toast...I have never been a Sanders fan but if he is able to vanquish Biden then it is probably for the best...i hate to admit that..but this is no time to play favorites. I think Sanders will run the country like he has his Senate seat, lots of flailing arms with no good legislation..look at his record...but at least it won't be Trump..I could stand 4 years of normal for a change. So i will hold my nose and vote for Sanders, if it comes to that

Biden is no one's fool ~ quiet thunder, he can take Trump on ~ w/ class

[C0LLETTE]

If I were an American and had an opportunity to vote for Warren, I'd risk "prison" and vote for her a hundred times over. What an amazing, graceful, decent, human being.

[BullDog]

I see no evidence that Rachel hates Sanders. She was polite and professional as she always is with all of her guests. At one point she talked about being a progressive herself and that a lot of what he said made sense to her - I can't remember exactly what she said but she was empathizing with him.

It's not the DNC and liberal media taking Sanders down - it's the voters. He is losing at the ballot box. Full stop.

Another thing that bugged me about Sanders - talking about Biden taking money from corporate donors blah blah blah. He won many states on Super Tuesday without spending a dime, having field offices, or even visiting the states! He was the one running on a shoestring budget. Yes, it's his name recognition and people knowing him - Sanders has been in politics as long as Joe has.

People aren't just lining up behind Biden because he is "establishment." Joe knows how to connect with people and build teams and build consensus and build up goodwill just from being who he is.

Amy Klobuchar was asked by Lawrence O'Donnell last night whether she had talks with Biden about a position in his administration and she said no. Maybe she will end up there anyway. But she said she had known Biden for a long time. When he was in the Senate still (which would have been when she was a new Senator) she was giving a speech one day basically to an empty floor and felt no one was probably listening. Then she gets a call in her office. It was Joe Biden telling her he had listened to her speech and called to tell her it was good. He does stuff like that all the time and people remember - sometimes many years later.

Sanders is turning real negative on Biden now. His divisiveness and toxicity and negativity need to go. I hope Biden buries him at the ballot box very, very soon.

Elizabeth Warren is proof you can be a progressive without all of the divisiveness and ugliness. I wish her well and hope she doesn't endorse Sanders.

[homoe]

Originally Posted by C0LLETTE

If I were an American and had an opportunity to vote for Warren, I'd risk "prison" and vote for her a hundred times over. What an amazing, graceful, decent, human being.

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