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Old 03-19-2020, 10:31 PM   #1
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I do think that this will be an event like 9/11 or the 2008 recession.

Going forward we will speak of things as either “Before the virus“ or “After the virus“.
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I do think that this will be an event like 9/11 or the 2008 recession.

Going forward we will speak of things as either “Before the virus“ or “After the virus“.
I definitely agree with you, Kelt. Thank you for supplying that gem of an article. It is loaded with lots of perspective that enables a person to readily see exactly what has been on their minds, all along -- at least, that is how I feel about the article you posted. I'm still reading it, lol.

Here is another gem by film maker and author, Astra Taylor. And I quote:

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The rules we’ve lived by won’t all apply.

Astra Taylor is a filmmaker and author of Democracy May Not Exist, but We’ll Miss It When It’s Gone.


America’s response to coronavirus pandemic has revealed a simple truth: So many policies that our elected officials have long told us were impossible and impractical were eminently possible and practical all along. In 2011, when Occupy Wall Street activists demanded debt cancellation for student loans and medical debt, they were laughed at by many in the mainstream media. In the intervening years, we have continued to push the issue and have consistently been told our demands were unrealistic. Now, we know that the “rules” we have lived under were unnecessary, and simply made society more brittle and unequal.


All along, evictions were avoidable; the homeless could’ve been housed and sheltered in government buildings; water and electricity didn’t need to be turned off for people behind on their bills; paid sick leave could‘ve been a right for all workers; paying your mortgage late didn’t need to lead to foreclosure; and debtors could’ve been granted relief. President Donald Trump has already put a freeze on interest for federal student loans, while New York Governor Andrew Cuomo has paused all medical and student debt owed to New York State. Democrats and Republicans are discussing suspending collection on—or outright canceling—student loans as part of a larger economic stimulus package.


It’s clear that in a crisis, the rules don’t apply—which makes you wonder why they are rules in the first place. This is an unprecedented opportunity to not just hit the pause button and temporarily ease the pain, but to permanently change the rules so that untold millions of people aren’t so vulnerable to begin with.
Ms. Taylor is spot on. I totally agree with her line of thought.

Thanks so much for providing a link to that article. So much to appreciate and the message is timely too.
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Old 03-19-2020, 10:53 PM   #3
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On a beautiful sunny day, I took a little walk and... on my way out of the nearby drugstore, I immediately stopped to put some hand sanitizer on when I saw one of the homeless sitting on a bench, perhaps in his 40s, looking like in his 50s. I was about 40' away, he was coughing badly and then started spitting out some awful phlegm. He took out his cigarettes to smoke and then started coughing again, and spitting, and put his cigarettes away - can you imagine being too sick to smoke... I spoke with someone who told me that there are now @ 3 confirmed cases of covid-19 in our immediate area, but the "authorities" won't say exactly where. I have tried online to see where exactly, but the info is mysteriously missing. I'm glad I have stocked up. I hope everyone else has as well. I am cleaning my doorknobs, etc. It will be at least a year before they get a vaccine going, I can't wait. The only one good thing is that all the medical researchers (like that Dr. Ho who I saw on Rachel Maddow) are all working at a mad pace to find a vaccine. My god go with them.

I miss take-out pizza! (My pizza place is now only open in the evenings...)
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Income Tax dead line to file has been moved to July 15, 2020.

Whew..I have way to many forms to file this year!
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Income Tax dead line to file has been moved to July 15, 2020.
Yes, but did they move the deadline to pay? Or is it like when you file for an extension - you get longer to send in the paperwork, but you still have to send them an approximate amount by April 15?
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Glad to hear that USA and Canada are closing their mutual border. USA will be safe from our 600+ cases and Canada will be safe from USA's 15000 + cases.

"I suspect I understand why borders with Mexico and USA are being simultaneously closed. Mexico and countries south of USA would be mighty mighty pissed off if they were unilaterally being excluded but, frankly, I don't see a shit load of Canadians scrambling across the US border to get healthcare help ( well, maybe the MAYO Clinic if you've got huge bucks )."

Now think about that last paragraph:

It's easy to interpret posts like these as being anti-American. That's nonsense. Posts like this are meant to show how easy it is for "leaders" to turn us against each other.
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Glad to hear that USA and Canada are closing their mutual border. USA will be safe from our 600+ cases and Canada will be safe from USA's 15000 + cases.

"I suspect I understand why borders with Mexico and USA are being simultaneously closed. Mexico and countries south of USA would be mighty mighty pissed off if they were unilaterally being excluded but, frankly, I don't see a shit load of Canadians scrambling across the US border to get healthcare help ( well, maybe the MAYO Clinic if you've got huge bucks )."

Now think about that last paragraph:

It's easy to interpret posts like these as being anti-American. That's nonsense. Posts like this are meant to show how easy it is for "leaders" to turn us against each other.
I agree and don’t see your post as anti-American at all. Mexico was looking at the US sideways about a week ago for the same reason, it makes sense. Within the US we are also blocking off chunks right now by states and counties although I tend to think a consistent national plan might make more sense at least for sometime while we play catch-up.

The United States is completely void of leadership at this time unless you count Dr Fauci whom I understand is now being made less visible in the press conferences with the president because the president has realized that the Dr is becoming the bigger star in this crisis. When Trump declared himself to be a wartime president I had about a minute of hope that that would make him a little more serious and responsible. Of course that was immediately supplanted with visions of what kind of uniform he could dream up for himself, I see lots of gold braid and bars filled with metals, no hat, it would muss the hair, or maybe one just tucked under the arm with a riding crop in the other hand, a la Patton. Let the cosplay begin.

Toads? I can only hope the Trump decides to lick one as a further display of his immortality.
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Yes, but did they move the deadline to pay? Or is it like when you file for an extension - you get longer to send in the paperwork, but you still have to send them an approximate amount by April 15?

Looks like the whole enchilada. Very good for me as well.
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I already did my taxes, oh well..got big $37 back.

The State of Tennessee has done zero to help or acknowledge Covid19. There are several cases in the state, but most cases are in Nashville and 1 neighboring county, subburb or Nashville.

My county has shut down restaurants, bars, gyms etc. The numbers of infected seem to double each day.

But still.....

My weirdo across the hall neighbor stopped me this morning to rant about it (Covid) being a hoax blah chemtrails blah blah blah....I said "I think its melting permafrost releasing old diseases", he looked aghast...But hey, my answer seems more likely than his.

I stood in line at Trader Joe's to get more food and wipes. I have a couple of weeks worth of stuff (more than that of rice and beans), but who knows what will happen. Right?

We are working, so for that I am very grateful. All overtime and special projects on hold, so I will be making at least $1,000 less a month, but still enough to be ok. Trying to cut down all my bills for the long haul.

Rambling...sorry!

Bottom line, I am very anxious. I plan to meditate quite a bit this weekend....which, by the way will be my first full weekend off since the holidays. So yay!

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