Coronavirus ~ COVID-19

[~ocean]

Originally Posted by Stone-Butch

ocean, you are one of the most thoughtful, loving and caring women I know. No matter what you might be going through personally I am sure you always find time for others. I think the whole world if they knew you would like to ((((hug)))))))))) you too. This world is a better place because of people like you in it. Bless you Ms ocean and know you are thought about with respect and admiration.

I feel your hug ~ ahh stone you always seem to know what I am going threw thank you ~

[~ocean]

((((((( everyone )))))))) here on the planet I received a lot of feedback on the post from 3/29 ~ it's refreshing to know how many of us are cut from the same cloth of love and faith ~ we will get threw this and when our lives are back in our hands ~ and not in the lost world of despair ~ we have "each other " to thank ~ we are the source of strength and unity ~ I'm not ignoring my faith ~ but the scientist's and doctors , nurses, healthcare , are our savior's many of the people in our community's that are volunteer's , mayor's and governor's ~ and friends whether silent or local. Thank you again for the heartfelt responses we all feel ~

[JDeere]

I no longer have faith nor do I believe anyone anymore.

Noone is trustworthy and this virus has brought out the truth on how people and things really are.

Politics and religion are a farce, things you were taught to believe because it's what you were told.

Wake up people, we aren't gonna be alive much longer, so stop believing in fake things and fake people.

[C0LLETTE]

Originally Posted by JDeere

I no longer have faith nor do I believe anyone anymore.

Noone is trustworthy and this virus has brought out the truth on how people and things really are.

Politics and religion are a farce, things you were taught to believe because it's what you were told.

Wake up people, we aren't gonna be alive much longer, so stop believing in fake things and fake people.

WAKE UP AND DO WHAT?

[~ocean]

North Korea is sending up short ranged missiels a lot since the virus outbreak ~ yet claims he has no cases ~ then u read he's secretly asking for supply's ~ I smell a RAT ~ and it's not Ratatouille

[~ocean]

Originally Posted by JDeere

I no longer have faith nor do I believe anyone anymore.

Noone is trustworthy and this virus has brought out the truth on how people and things really are.

Politics and religion are a farce, things you were taught to believe because it's what you were told.

Wake up people, we aren't gonna be alive much longer, so stop believing in fake things and fake people.

(((( JD ))))) just cause

[Stone-Butch]

It was just on the news that Drs doing research don't think there is going to be any kind of drop from the Virus before the end of April. Well if cabin fever has got you, best you get some antidepressants.

[GeorgiaMa'am]

Originally Posted by Stone-Butch

Well if cabin fever has got you, best you get some antidepressants.

I'm on antidepressants and I don't think they're working as well as they used to.

[C0LLETTE]

Ventilators...

Arthur McDonald, a Queen’s University professor who shared the 2015 Nobel Prize in Physics, is leading an effort by Canadian scientists at two national laboratories to produce a stripped-down, easy-to-manufacture hospital ventilator in time to meet an urgent demand for the machines because of the COVID-19 pandemic.

Researchers at the TRIUMF particle accelerator in Vancouver and the Canadian Nuclear Laboratories at Chalk River, Ont., are now aiming to complete two working prototypes of their ventilator, one at each location, over the coming week.

“We feel that every country is going to have to have its own made-in-country solution for ventilators," said Dr. McDonald, who is best known for his experimental work involving neutrinos, elusive particles produced in the core of the sun. “The idea is that the capability is here in the particle physics community. We’re just trying to exploit it.”

How well Canada comes through the COVID-19 pandemic will depend crucially on its supply of ventilators, the complex medical devices that are used to keep patients’ lungs supplied with oxygen when they are unable to breathe on their own.

Dr. McDonald said he became aware of a potential solution when approached by colleagues working with DarkSide, an international physics project based in Italy whose goal is to snare particles of dark matter. The experiment uses argon as its detection medium and its design requires electronic controllers that can precisely regulate gas flow – a capability that is also required of hospital ventilators.

Prompted by the escalating state of the pandemic in Italy, where it has already claimed more than 10,000 lives, Italian researchers on the experiment designed a ventilator last week that is optimized for mass production with inexpensive off-the-shelf parts. The device requires a source of compressed oxygen and electrical power to operate but little else. Unlike conventional ventilators, it has few mechanical parts. Controls and monitoring are contained within an electronics unit that can be accessed via WiFi.

“We need something simple that can be produced at the rate of thousands of units per day," said Cristiano Galbiati, a Princeton University professor who is currently in Milan leading the Italian design.

A prototype is now undergoing a battery of tests in Italy to assess how well it can maintain a patient’s breathing. Dr. Galbiati added that plans for the device will be available to anyone in the world who wants to build one.

“The only thing that is important, if the machine works, is to have it replicated as fast as possible,” he said.

Support Scientific Research not Churches. Your odds of a healthy outcome are way better.

[GeorgiaMa'am]

I was listening to the BBC World News this weekend, and they had on a show where they interviewed people from around the world about what it was like with COVID-19 in their part of the world. Amazingly, they had a woman on from my hometown in rural Georgia! And what she described reminded me exactly what that town is like and why I left.

No one is following the restrictions. There is a general attitude of "this is a free country and you can't tell me what to do." They think the whole thing is a hoax made up by the media. They don't understand how it spreads and they don't trust science or education. They all went to church on Sunday (except the Unitarian Universalists, of which this interviewee was one.) They all go wherever they want.

The BBC interviewer sounded shocked. She asked, "Have you tried explaining it to anyone?" The woman replied that it was very, very hard, and she was just trying to do the best she could.

Even our governor, when asked why he didn't order a shelter-in-place for the whole state, and not just the metro Atlanta area, said he "looked around" and saw that nobody else was following the recommendations. (Well, idiot, that's your job to make something stronger than a "recommendation".) (We all know that's got to do with re-election, don't we? Tell the people what they want to hear.)

[homoe]

Originally Posted by JDeere

I no longer have faith nor do I believe anyone anymore.

Noone is trustworthy and this virus has brought out the truth on how people and things really are.

Politics and religion are a farce, things you were taught to believe because it's what you were told.

Wake up people, we aren't gonna be alive much longer, so stop believing in fake things and fake people.

I must admit when I first read this, I thought it was pretty pessimistic! After reading several articles lately about price gouging, ministers defying social distancing, etc etc I believe I'm in the same space as JD, well except for the "not gonna be alive much longer"! I don't plan on going anytime soon!

[theoddz]

Dear Wife and I live in central Texas, in an area that is about an hour an and half from any of the sizeable metropolitan cities in Texas. We're not really what you'd call "rural", but we have decent shopping, meaning no Costco nearby, but a couple of Sam's Clubs and the usual chain and Texas grocery stores, like HEB, Aldi's and such. I'm not sure what the population is in this area, but I'm certain that it's much smaller than anywhere else, except Maine and Iowa, that I have ever lived in my life. It's okay. I'm getting used to it!!! LOL

So yesterday, Dear Wife and I had to get out to Jackson Hewitt to sign and file our federal income tax return. The branch where we were going is located right inside the door of a local WalMart supercenter. Now, I have to say that I have not gotten out of the house in the last 2 weeks, except to get the mail at the mailbox cluster in our neighborhood. Dear Wife has made one or two trips to the grocery store to do curbside pickups for our groceries. What I saw on our local roads and in the parking lot of that WalMart supercenter literally floored me!!! It's like frippin' CHRISTMAS at WalMart and on the roads!!!! I mean CROWDS!!! We circled the parking lot and front door area of that WalMart and there were people flooding in and out with their shopping buggies, families, including small children and BABIES!! One guy had a McDonald's fast food bag in his hand, eating hand to mouth!!! No one was wearing a mask, or gloves or practicing social distancing!!! Here we were, she and I, with our industrial sized bottle of hand sanitizer, our boxes of nitrile gloves and our Lysol spray, being so careful to watch everything we touched, and then clean it right away, and these fools were just out there like it was Christmas!! Dear Wife nearly went into a full fledged panic attack and I had to calm her down and assure her that we were NOT NOT NOT going "in there" or anywhere near those dumbass people. I didn't care if our tax returns took until perdition to be signed and filed.

All I could think was........we're fucked. This is exactly how this disease is going to spread and, eventually, consume this nation, I'm sure. Why and how people can possibly be this stupid is just beyond the beyonds to me.

When our nation entered the War on Terrorism, back in the early 2000's (2003), my Pop, who was part of the Greatest Generation, and who lived through both the Great Depression and the bombing of Pearl Harbor, made a very profound observation. He said that he couldn't believe the way that this country, the USA, was acting, and that to a casual observer, it was impossible to tell that we were a "nation at war". He said that there was absolutely no evidence that the average American citizen was "sacrificing" anything.....except the military communities. We are, apparently, now a nation of people who, by and large, refuse to make any kind of sacrifice for our common good, even when it involves our very lives. We won't be inconvenienced, go out of our way or think of anyone but ourselves and our own wants, desires and goals. If it's not in our direct "bubble", it doesn't affect us and does not warrant any direct regard or action on our part. So much for "pulling together", which I'm not so sure that this country remembers how to do.

This is dangerous, folks. I think we're fucked, if this keeps up.

I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think so.

~Theo~

[GeorgiaMa'am]

Originally Posted by theoddz

Dear Wife and I live in central Texas, in an area that is about an hour an and half from any of the sizeable metropolitan cities in Texas. We're not really what you'd call "rural", but we have decent shopping, meaning no Costco nearby, but a couple of Sam's Clubs and the usual chain and Texas grocery stores, like HEB, Aldi's and such. I'm not sure what the population is in this area, but I'm certain that it's much smaller than anywhere else, except Maine and Iowa, that I have ever lived in my life. It's okay. I'm getting used to it!!! LOL

So yesterday, Dear Wife and I had to get out to Jackson Hewitt to sign and file our federal income tax return. The branch where we were going is located right inside the door of a local WalMart supercenter. Now, I have to say that I have not gotten out of the house in the last 2 weeks, except to get the mail at the mailbox cluster in our neighborhood. Dear Wife has made one or two trips to the grocery store to do curbside pickups for our groceries. What I saw on our local roads and in the parking lot of that WalMart supercenter literally floored me!!! It's like frippin' CHRISTMAS at WalMart and on the roads!!!! I mean CROWDS!!! We circled the parking lot and front door area of that WalMart and there were people flooding in and out with their shopping buggies, families, including small children and BABIES!! One guy had a McDonald's fast food bag in his hand, eating hand to mouth!!! No one was wearing a mask, or gloves or practicing social distancing!!! Here we were, she and I, with our industrial sized bottle of hand sanitizer, our boxes of nitrile gloves and our Lysol spray, being so careful to watch everything we touched, and then clean it right away, and these fools were just out there like it was Christmas!! Dear Wife nearly went into a full fledged panic attack and I had to calm her down and assure her that we were NOT NOT NOT going "in there" or anywhere near those dumbass people. I didn't care if our tax returns took until perdition to be signed and filed.

All I could think was........we're fucked. This is exactly how this disease is going to spread and, eventually, consume this nation, I'm sure. Why and how people can possibly be this stupid is just beyond the beyonds to me.

When our nation entered the War on Terrorism, back in the early 2000's (2003), my Pop, who was part of the Greatest Generation, and who lived through both the Great Depression and the bombing of Pearl Harbor, made a very profound observation. He said that he couldn't believe the way that this country, the USA, was acting, and that to a casual observer, it was impossible to tell that we were a "nation at war". He said that there was absolutely no evidence that the average American citizen was "sacrificing" anything.....except the military communities. We are, apparently, now a nation of people who, by and large, refuse to make any kind of sacrifice for our common good, even when it involves our very lives. We won't be inconvenienced, go out of our way or think of anyone but ourselves and our own wants, desires and goals. If it's not in our direct "bubble", it doesn't affect us and does not warrant any direct regard or action on our part. So much for "pulling together", which I'm not so sure that this country remembers how to do.

This is dangerous, folks. I think we're fucked, if this keeps up.

I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think so.

~Theo~

I think you're right, we're fucked. This is how 100,000-200,000 Americans are going to die. Many others will show symptoms and be sick. And many others, who are a big part of the problem, will be asymptomatic carriers.

I live in a fairly urban area where people are _mostly_ sticking to the guidelines - not all, for sure. But in the rural area where my sister and mom live, there's such an entitled attitude of "America's a free country, you can't tell me what to do!" When did we stop teaching kids that with great freedom comes great responsibility?

I don't know what to do about it except try not to panic too much, and keep washing my hands and using sanitizer.

[charley]

Originally Posted by theoddz

Dear Wife and I live in central Texas, in an area that is about an hour an and half from any of the sizeable metropolitan cities in Texas. We're not really what you'd call "rural", but we have decent shopping, meaning no Costco nearby, but a couple of Sam's Clubs and the usual chain and Texas grocery stores, like HEB, Aldi's and such. I'm not sure what the population is in this area, but I'm certain that it's much smaller than anywhere else, except Maine and Iowa, that I have ever lived in my life. It's okay. I'm getting used to it!!! LOL

So yesterday, Dear Wife and I had to get out to Jackson Hewitt to sign and file our federal income tax return. The branch where we were going is located right inside the door of a local WalMart supercenter. Now, I have to say that I have not gotten out of the house in the last 2 weeks, except to get the mail at the mailbox cluster in our neighborhood. Dear Wife has made one or two trips to the grocery store to do curbside pickups for our groceries. What I saw on our local roads and in the parking lot of that WalMart supercenter literally floored me!!! It's like frippin' CHRISTMAS at WalMart and on the roads!!!! I mean CROWDS!!! We circled the parking lot and front door area of that WalMart and there were people flooding in and out with their shopping buggies, families, including small children and BABIES!! One guy had a McDonald's fast food bag in his hand, eating hand to mouth!!! No one was wearing a mask, or gloves or practicing social distancing!!! Here we were, she and I, with our industrial sized bottle of hand sanitizer, our boxes of nitrile gloves and our Lysol spray, being so careful to watch everything we touched, and then clean it right away, and these fools were just out there like it was Christmas!! Dear Wife nearly went into a full fledged panic attack and I had to calm her down and assure her that we were NOT NOT NOT going "in there" or anywhere near those dumbass people. I didn't care if our tax returns took until perdition to be signed and filed.

All I could think was........we're fucked. This is exactly how this disease is going to spread and, eventually, consume this nation, I'm sure. Why and how people can possibly be this stupid is just beyond the beyonds to me.

When our nation entered the War on Terrorism, back in the early 2000's (2003), my Pop, who was part of the Greatest Generation, and who lived through both the Great Depression and the bombing of Pearl Harbor, made a very profound observation. He said that he couldn't believe the way that this country, the USA, was acting, and that to a casual observer, it was impossible to tell that we were a "nation at war". He said that there was absolutely no evidence that the average American citizen was "sacrificing" anything.....except the military communities. We are, apparently, now a nation of people who, by and large, refuse to make any kind of sacrifice for our common good, even when it involves our very lives. We won't be inconvenienced, go out of our way or think of anyone but ourselves and our own wants, desires and goals. If it's not in our direct "bubble", it doesn't affect us and does not warrant any direct regard or action on our part. So much for "pulling together", which I'm not so sure that this country remembers how to do.

This is dangerous, folks. I think we're fucked, if this keeps up.

I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think so.

~Theo~

How true - this = on a smaller level (we have less population) = has happened here in Canada as well. Premiers here have gotten angry with their citizens in their news TV briefs about how people are ignoring stay-at-home (at the time) requests), but now have had to institute orders (backed up by criminal fines/penalties).

For example, even though people knew about the pandemic, 99 of the 135 people who had been diagnosed with COVID-19 in St. John's, Newfoundland contracted COVID-19 out of attending wakes at Caul’s Funeral Home, March 15-17.

Unfortunately, this has all turned quite ugly, because:

"The fallout for family and friends who attended the wakes and funerals, including the more than 150 who reportedly packed into a chapel at Caul’s to say goodbye to Ms. Fleming, has been swift and, at times, ugly. They say they’re getting death threats, online harassment and have become scapegoats in a province where little more than two weeks ago there were no cases of COVID-19."

[GeorgiaMa'am]

Originally Posted by charley

Premiers here have gotten angry with their citizens in their news TV briefs about how people are ignoring stay-at-home (at the time) requests), but now have had to institute orders (backed up by criminal fines/penalties).

. . .

They say they’re getting death threats, online harassment and have become scapegoats in a province where little more than two weeks ago there were no cases of COVID-19."

And they're surprised now that they've got COVID-19. I really think the general public is not getting the message that they can carry the disease even if they don't show symptoms of being sick. My sister's family is supposedly sheltering in place and doing all the right things, _except_ my niece and her fiancé went to visit his grandmother the other day. I don't think he would risk his grandmother's life on purpose, I think he just doesn't get it.

I also think a large proportion of the population is purposely ignoring the directives, because (1) an attitude of entitlement ('you can't tell me what to do!') (2) they don't believe there's really a crisis and that the whole thing is a hoax made up by the media.

More information needs to get out to the public from _doctors_ and _health professionals_, not just from politicians, and not just "wash your hands and stay home." It won't solve the problem, but it might make it better.

[easygoingfemme]

Originally Posted by theoddz

Dear Wife and I live in central Texas, in an area that is about an hour an and half from any of the sizeable metropolitan cities in Texas. We're not really what you'd call "rural", but we have decent shopping, meaning no Costco nearby, but a couple of Sam's Clubs and the usual chain and Texas grocery stores, like HEB, Aldi's and such. I'm not sure what the population is in this area, but I'm certain that it's much smaller than anywhere else, except Maine and Iowa, that I have ever lived in my life. It's okay. I'm getting used to it!!! LOL

So yesterday, Dear Wife and I had to get out to Jackson Hewitt to sign and file our federal income tax return. The branch where we were going is located right inside the door of a local WalMart supercenter. Now, I have to say that I have not gotten out of the house in the last 2 weeks, except to get the mail at the mailbox cluster in our neighborhood. Dear Wife has made one or two trips to the grocery store to do curbside pickups for our groceries. What I saw on our local roads and in the parking lot of that WalMart supercenter literally floored me!!! It's like frippin' CHRISTMAS at WalMart and on the roads!!!! I mean CROWDS!!! We circled the parking lot and front door area of that WalMart and there were people flooding in and out with their shopping buggies, families, including small children and BABIES!! One guy had a McDonald's fast food bag in his hand, eating hand to mouth!!! No one was wearing a mask, or gloves or practicing social distancing!!! Here we were, she and I, with our industrial sized bottle of hand sanitizer, our boxes of nitrile gloves and our Lysol spray, being so careful to watch everything we touched, and then clean it right away, and these fools were just out there like it was Christmas!! Dear Wife nearly went into a full fledged panic attack and I had to calm her down and assure her that we were NOT NOT NOT going "in there" or anywhere near those dumbass people. I didn't care if our tax returns took until perdition to be signed and filed.

All I could think was........we're fucked. This is exactly how this disease is going to spread and, eventually, consume this nation, I'm sure. Why and how people can possibly be this stupid is just beyond the beyonds to me.

When our nation entered the War on Terrorism, back in the early 2000's (2003), my Pop, who was part of the Greatest Generation, and who lived through both the Great Depression and the bombing of Pearl Harbor, made a very profound observation. He said that he couldn't believe the way that this country, the USA, was acting, and that to a casual observer, it was impossible to tell that we were a "nation at war". He said that there was absolutely no evidence that the average American citizen was "sacrificing" anything.....except the military communities. We are, apparently, now a nation of people who, by and large, refuse to make any kind of sacrifice for our common good, even when it involves our very lives. We won't be inconvenienced, go out of our way or think of anyone but ourselves and our own wants, desires and goals. If it's not in our direct "bubble", it doesn't affect us and does not warrant any direct regard or action on our part. So much for "pulling together", which I'm not so sure that this country remembers how to do.

This is dangerous, folks. I think we're fucked, if this keeps up.

I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think so.

~Theo~

That is unbelievable. I mean, obviously I believe you, but how can so many people be so stupid.

I've noticed here the past few days that there has been more traffic on the roads than there was last week. I do still need to go to work 5-6 days/week so I'm out for that/grocery shopping for us and my parents. But at least in the market now people seem to be respecting the 6' rule.

My mom is making hundreds of masks. She made them for every staff still reporting to work and every woman who lives in our housing program and when she's done with that she's going to start making them for the homeless shelter a couple miles away.

I finally got someone to stand in for me today so I could work from home for a day. It's such a relief to check out a bit. The stress is pulsing in the air the longer this goes on. Residents are cooped up. They live in little tiny rooms with just a bed and a closet. They are bickering and staff is getting more and more stressed and some are getting stabby with their words. I had to halt a co-worker who was mean girl talking to me on Monday. Absolutely no tolerance for that.

Hope everyone is staying healthy~