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Old 07-17-2020, 02:52 PM   #1
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If two is a trend then brilliant but crazy female leads is definitely a trend...Marcella" (doesn't get much screwier) and "Homeland (almost as screwy) are trend leaders.

Such interesting characters dealing with brilliant plot twists...but do they really have to be so nuts? I suppose that brilliant successful stable female characters aren't threatening enough to make for good entertainment.

What next? Women reclaim "hysteria" as a viable way to get into show biz?
I join you in frustration at the prevalence of female leads who struggle with mental illness with some caveats.

Homeland is one my favorite streaming series, and Carrie's mental illness only deepens her character in my view. This is a tribute to her stunning acting ability.

On the other hand, I just started Marcella and have an opposite reaction. I find the lead character's apparent mental illness off-putting. Her sudden bouts of violence, happening in blackout episodes (not alcohol related) seem gratuitous, plot-wise.

Maybe that's because she doesn't seem to have much remorse regarding the impact of her violence on other people. So far, I just think she's an asshole (I'm only on the third episode).

But back to your point — my question would be, has anyone collected data on this? How many male versus female leads are mentally ill? I'd like to know if it's just perception or something that can be quantified.

To get some context, I just looked up the stats on mental illness in the U.S. and to give one example, 5.7 million adults, or about 2.6% of the population age 18 and older, are diagnosed as bipolar, and about one in five of them commit suicide.

This is from the National Alliance on Mental Illness:

--19.1% of U.S. adults experienced mental illness in 2018 (47.6 million people). This represents 1 in 5 adults.

--4.6% of U.S. adults experienced serious mental illness in 2018 (11.4 million people). This represents 1 in 25 adults.

--16.5% of U.S. youth aged 6-17 experienced a mental health disorder in 2016 (7.7 million people)

--3.7% of U.S. adults experienced a co-occurring substance use disorder and mental illness in 2018 (9.2 million people)

I was not surprised to learn that. I'm also guessing that with 30 to 40 million people out of jobs because of the pandemic and only 20 million on unemployment, there must be a lot of people without health insurance who are living with untreated mental illness. This makes me angry at our government and sad for them.

TV and film reflects real life so ... it makes sense that a certain proportion of characters would be mentally ill in one way or another. Is that proportion skewed to female leads? That's a good question.
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Old 07-19-2020, 04:14 PM   #2
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The Trust on Netflix with Nicholas Cage and Elijah Wood. It’s about two cops, one who’s optimistic and the other not so much, who pull a heist.

Cage has become a caricature, IMHO, but it works in this film. Wood kept me interested but he’s an actor I don’t know well.

Nothing to write home about, but worth the time if you don[t have anything else to do.
I can't help it; I like Cage. Is he a great actor? No way, but I like the type of movies in which he excels (Gone in 60 Seconds, Con Air, Guarding Tess, Ghost Rider, The Sorcerer's Apprentice, etc). They are like cotton candy for my brain. No thinking allowed!

Elijah has done a lot. He's been in music videos from Paula Abdul to The Beastie Boys, plus TV and of course, the Lord of the Rings series. I think that's where most people know him. I liked him as Mumble in Happy Feet and in Cooties.

I've dipped my toes in a lot of Netflix ponds lately. I watched Cursed and it was okay but not super great. I've watched some movies but seem to find the ones that were made elsewhere and have English dubs so the words I hear don't match the movements of the actors' mouths nor the actual English subtitles so that's distracting. I finished a one season series called Flinch, which was kind of awesome if you are feeling a bit mean spirited and like to see people scream and be freaked out for no particularly good reason. I watched a couple episodes of The Chase but can't stand the "Beast". I watched all 4 seasons of the Beauty and the Beast remake. It was good for a bit and then became repetitive, which is why they went from 22 episodes a season down to 13, I suppose. Plus, I kept wanting them to even out the lead actor's facial hair. Also distracting.
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