Politics-What's on your mind?

homoe · 10-13-2020, 03:45 AM

SANFORD, Fla. —
After having to leave the campaign trail because of a diagnosis of COVID-19, President Donald Trump held a rally Monday evening in Sanford.
Trump spoke at Orlando Sanford International Airport in front of a large crowd that drew supporters to the venue more than 24 hours before he was set to take the stage. The thousands of supporters stood shoulder-to-shoulder, many of them not wearing masks.

The president made a dramatic entrance on Air Force One, walking directly off the plane and onto the stage to address his supporters. “It’s great to be back in my home state, Florida, to make my official return to the campaign trail,” Trump declared.

Trump had been scheduled to attend a rally at the airport Oct. 2, but the event was canceled after he contracted COVID-19.

Monday's rally came as the president faces a stubborn deficit in national and battleground state polls three weeks from Election Day. The Trump campaign said the president will also hold campaign events in Pennsylvania, Iowa and North Carolina this week.

BullDog · 10-13-2020, 09:50 AM

I am thinking about the voters.

Thank you to everyone who has voted so far, especially those who have had to wait in line. Please everyone else vote as soon as you can!

Yesterday was the first day of early voting in Georgia. They set a record with over 125,000 early votes and people waited hours and hours in line. You have my utmost respect and thanks.

I have never had to stand in line for hours to vote, but if I ever need to I certainly will.

VOTE!

Go Blue!

Cin · 10-13-2020, 10:07 AM

Looking at the reality of the Supreme Court for a generation I can only say it is bleak. I stumbled across this article in the Atlantic that was published in April. It's very interesting not that it matters a whit really unless something changes. However I always found originalism vs living constituionalism interesting. The way the conservative justices usually do it is originalism for issues for which it is convenient and common good constitutionalism (aka conservative living constitutionalism) when originalism won't get the results they seek. Anyway I found the article interesting.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...tution/609382/

~ocean · 10-13-2020, 01:35 PM

Barrett seems sneaky as all hell. Her voice is shrilling , untrustworthy. Barrett gets a look in her eye's that says crazy ~ Houston we have a problem. ~

homoe · 10-13-2020, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ~ocean

Barrett seems sneaky as all hell. Her voice is shrilling , untrustworthy. Barrett gets a look in her eye's that says crazy ~ Houston we have a problem. ~

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She steamed rolled over Diane Einsteinium and her questions but come tomorrow, I doubt she'll be able to do that with Sheldon Whitehouse after the foundation he laid out today!

~ocean · 10-13-2020, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by homoe

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She steamed rolled over Diane Einsteinium and her questions but come tomorrow, I doubt she'll be able to do that with Sheldon Whitehouse after the foundation he laid out today!

^5 on that !!!

BullDog · 10-13-2020, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ~ocean

Barrett seems sneaky as all hell. Her voice is shrilling , untrustworthy. Barrett gets a look in her eye's that says crazy ~ Houston we have a problem. ~

She definitely has crazy eyes. I guess she thinks she is on a mission from God to save the unborn so it's okay for her to lie through her teeth.

homoe · 10-14-2020, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BullDog

She definitely has crazy eyes. I guess she thinks she is on a mission from God to save the unborn so it's okay for her to lie through her teeth.

She's a slippery one that's for damn sure!

EVEN when there is a constitutional answer to a question she's being asked, she won't commit to quoting and giving it!

BullDog · 10-14-2020, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by homoe

She's a slippery one that's for damn sure!

EVEN when there is a constitutional answer to a question she's being asked, she won't commit to quoting and giving it!

I have only watched bits and pieces but the only straightforward answer I have seen is when Cory Booker asked if she condemned white supremacy and she did say yes.

Feinstein asked her if the president could delay the election under any circumstances. The answer is absolutely not, but Barrett wouldn't answer.

Klobuchar asked if it was illegal to intimidate voters at the polls. Of course, it is but she wouldn't answer, so Amy cited the specific law.

She is basically not answering any question at all.

I don't know much about originalism but times change lady. "All men are created equal" means something different now than it did in the 18th century. It's a crock of shit.

I thought Kamala Harris was outstanding yesterday.

Barret absolutely sucks. The worst hypocrite ever. If she really was a moral, honest person she would not agree to be shoved through during an election where people are already voting.

dark_crystal · 10-13-2020, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ~ocean

Barrett seems sneaky as all hell. Her voice is shrilling , untrustworthy. Barrett gets a look in her eye's that says crazy ~ Houston we have a problem. ~

Houston says "YOU SURE DO!! WE ARE HERE TO HELP, THOUGH!!!"

Houston/Harris County had double the number of early voters today as we had on the first day of voting in 2016. AND THOSE ARE MAJORITY DEMOCRAT!

The Tea Party live in the sticks and don't vote with us!

Orema · 10-14-2020, 05:37 AM

On Facebook, Misinformation Is More Popular Now Than in 2016
By Davey Alba

People are engaging more on Facebook today with news outlets that routinely publish misinformation than they did before the 2016 election. Credit...Josh Edelson/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images

During the 2016 presidential election, Russian operatives used Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and other social media platforms to spread disinformation to divide the American electorate. Since then, the social media companies have spent billions of dollars and hired tens of thousands of people to help clean up their act.

But have the platforms really become more sophisticated at handling misinformation?

Not necessarily.

People are engaging more on Facebook today with news outlets that routinely publish misinformation than they did before the 2016 election, according to new research from the German Marshall Fund Digital, the digital arm of the public policy think tank. The organization, which has a data partnership with the start-up NewsGuard and the social media analytics firm NewsWhip, published its findings on Monday.

In total, Facebook likes, comments and shares of articles from news outlets that regularly publish falsehoods and misleading content roughly tripled from the third quarter of 2016 to the third quarter of 2020, the group found.

About two thirds of those likes and comments were of articles published by 10 outlets, which the researchers categorized as “false content producers” or “manipulators.” Those news outlets included Palmer Report and The Federalist, according to the research.

The group used ratings from NewsGuard, which ranks news sites based on how they uphold nine journalistic principles, to sort them into “false content producers,” which repeatedly publish provably false content; and “manipulators,” which regularly present unsubstantiated claims or that distort information to make an argument.

“We have these sites that masquerade as news outlets online. They’re allowed to,” said Karen Kornbluh, director of GMF Digital. “It’s infecting our discourse and it’s affecting the long-term health of the democracy.”

Andy Stone, a Facebook spokesman, said that analyzing likes, shares and comments to draw conclusions was “misleading” because the data does not capture what most people see on Facebook. The social network does not make other data, such as the reach of posts, publicly available; engagement data is the only information it provides.

Ms. Kornbluh said Facebook users engaged more with articles from all news outlets this year because the coronavirus pandemic forced people to quarantine indoors. But the growth rate of likes, shares and comments of content from manipulators and false content producers exceeded the interactions that people had with what the researchers called “legitimate journalistic outlets,” such as Reuters, Associated Press and Bloomberg.

Ms. Kornbluh said social media firms face a conundrum because their businesses rely on viral content to bring in users, who they can then show ads to. Tamping down on misinformation “just runs against their economic incentives,” she said.

Davey Alba is a technology reporter covering disinformation. In 2019, she won a Livingston Award for excellence in international reporting and a Mirror Award for best story on journalism in peril.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/12/t...gtype=Homepage

Orema · 10-14-2020, 06:06 AM

One of things I like seeing two weeks before the election are the “big guns” who come out front and center to campaign for the party’s elected person. This year for the dems it would normally be the Obamas, previous Presidents and their spouses (Clintons, Carters), previous VPs and their families, the opponents (Sanders), etc.

For the repubs it would be the same (Reagan children, Bush, McCain family, Bob Dole’s old ass, current senior Senators, etc).

But not this year. The dems have big guns but we look desperate, as we are, and the repubs have none. Just Trump, his family, and the Justice Dept.

I don’t think things will ever be the same. Future Presidents, dems and repubs, will use some of the dirty tricks used by Trump.

Guess I should get used to it.

10-13-2020, 03:45 AM	#1
homoe Practically Lives Here How Do You Identify?: Butch Relationship Status: ..... Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: 30 minute ferry ride from Seattle Posts: 38,565 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 20,811 Thanked 33,548 Times in 14,914 Posts Rep Power: 21474889	How dumb are these people who show up at these rallies? SANFORD, Fla. — After having to leave the campaign trail because of a diagnosis of COVID-19, President Donald Trump held a rally Monday evening in Sanford. Trump spoke at Orlando Sanford International Airport in front of a large crowd that drew supporters to the venue more than 24 hours before he was set to take the stage. The thousands of supporters stood shoulder-to-shoulder, many of them not wearing masks. The president made a dramatic entrance on Air Force One, walking directly off the plane and onto the stage to address his supporters. “It’s great to be back in my home state, Florida, to make my official return to the campaign trail,” Trump declared. Trump had been scheduled to attend a rally at the airport Oct. 2, but the event was canceled after he contracted COVID-19. Monday's rally came as the president faces a stubborn deficit in national and battleground state polls three weeks from Election Day. The Trump campaign said the president will also hold campaign events in Pennsylvania, Iowa and North Carolina this week.

10-13-2020, 09:50 AM	#2
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10-13-2020, 01:35 PM	#4
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10-14-2020, 05:37 AM	#11
Orema Superlative Soul Sister How Do You Identify?: Lesbian stone femme Preferred Pronoun?: She, her Relationship Status: Moving in a single file, but sometimes a sinner. Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Cottage of Content Posts: 13,670 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 41,470 Thanked 34,732 Times in 8,961 Posts Rep Power: 21474861	On Facebook, Misinformation Is More Popular Now Than in 2016 On Facebook, Misinformation Is More Popular Now Than in 2016 By Davey Alba People are engaging more on Facebook today with news outlets that routinely publish misinformation than they did before the 2016 election. Credit...Josh Edelson/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images During the 2016 presidential election, Russian operatives used Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and other social media platforms to spread disinformation to divide the American electorate. Since then, the social media companies have spent billions of dollars and hired tens of thousands of people to help clean up their act. But have the platforms really become more sophisticated at handling misinformation? Not necessarily. People are engaging more on Facebook today with news outlets that routinely publish misinformation than they did before the 2016 election, according to new research from the German Marshall Fund Digital, the digital arm of the public policy think tank. The organization, which has a data partnership with the start-up NewsGuard and the social media analytics firm NewsWhip, published its findings on Monday. In total, Facebook likes, comments and shares of articles from news outlets that regularly publish falsehoods and misleading content roughly tripled from the third quarter of 2016 to the third quarter of 2020, the group found. About two thirds of those likes and comments were of articles published by 10 outlets, which the researchers categorized as “false content producers” or “manipulators.” Those news outlets included Palmer Report and The Federalist, according to the research. The group used ratings from NewsGuard, which ranks news sites based on how they uphold nine journalistic principles, to sort them into “false content producers,” which repeatedly publish provably false content; and “manipulators,” which regularly present unsubstantiated claims or that distort information to make an argument. “We have these sites that masquerade as news outlets online. They’re allowed to,” said Karen Kornbluh, director of GMF Digital. “It’s infecting our discourse and it’s affecting the long-term health of the democracy.” Andy Stone, a Facebook spokesman, said that analyzing likes, shares and comments to draw conclusions was “misleading” because the data does not capture what most people see on Facebook. The social network does not make other data, such as the reach of posts, publicly available; engagement data is the only information it provides. Ms. Kornbluh said Facebook users engaged more with articles from all news outlets this year because the coronavirus pandemic forced people to quarantine indoors. But the growth rate of likes, shares and comments of content from manipulators and false content producers exceeded the interactions that people had with what the researchers called “legitimate journalistic outlets,” such as Reuters, Associated Press and Bloomberg. Ms. Kornbluh said social media firms face a conundrum because their businesses rely on viral content to bring in users, who they can then show ads to. Tamping down on misinformation “just runs against their economic incentives,” she said. Davey Alba is a technology reporter covering disinformation. In 2019, she won a Livingston Award for excellence in international reporting and a Mirror Award for best story on journalism in peril. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/12/t...gtype=Homepage

10-13-2020, 10:07 AM	#3
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10-14-2020, 06:06 AM	#12
Orema Superlative Soul Sister How Do You Identify?: Lesbian stone femme Preferred Pronoun?: She, her Relationship Status: Moving in a single file, but sometimes a sinner. Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Cottage of Content Posts: 13,670 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 41,470 Thanked 34,732 Times in 8,961 Posts Rep Power: 21474861	One of things I like seeing two weeks before the election are the “big guns” who come out front and center to campaign for the party’s elected person. This year for the dems it would normally be the Obamas, previous Presidents and their spouses (Clintons, Carters), previous VPs and their families, the opponents (Sanders), etc. For the repubs it would be the same (Reagan children, Bush, McCain family, Bob Dole’s old ass, current senior Senators, etc). But not this year. The dems have big guns but we look desperate, as we are, and the repubs have none. Just Trump, his family, and the Justice Dept. I don’t think things will ever be the same. Future Presidents, dems and repubs, will use some of the dirty tricks used by Trump. Guess I should get used to it.