2020 Presidential Election

Martina · 11-09-2020, 11:17 AM

AOC would laugh at your "bright future" condescending tokenism. She can't be coopted. She is thinking seriously of leaving politics because centrist Dems resist every effort to help working people. This election was energized by progressives, many of whom were BIPOC. I myself phone banked extensively through a progressive union and gave money. It wasn't just our votes. And now progressives are being blamed for there not having been a blue wave. Please God, we will never face a fascist threat like Trump again. But if Biden forgets his promises, there will be no help from the left again. Try to do without our organizations, money and votes. Trump got 71 million votes. Good luck without us because it looks like that's what's going to happen.

BullDog · 11-09-2020, 11:34 AM

It isn't condescending tokenism but WTF ever Martina. Progressives can't get anything done without us either. There are way more of us than you. Progressives did contribute to the victory and so did many other people too. Yes, there were disappointments but the work goes on.

Once again, why are you blaming Democrats for legislation not getting passed? The House has passed tons of bills and they are sitting in McConnell's graveyard. Why don't you fight the real enemy?

Such bullshit for you to come in here and blame and be so nasty and divisive when we just scored a great victory. Eff off.

Kätzchen · 11-09-2020, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BullDog

It isn't condescending tokenism but WTF ever Martina. Progressives can't get anything done without us either. There are way more of us than you. Progressives did contribute to the victory and so did many other people too. Yes, there were disappointments but the work goes on.

Once again, why are you blaming Democrats for legislation not getting passed? The House has passed tons of bills and they are sitting in McConnell's graveyard. Why don't you fight the real enemy?

Such bullshit for you to come in here and blame and be so nasty and divisive when we just scored a great victory. Eff off.

***Coalition Building***

(Biden's stategy, which works the best).

Medusa · 11-09-2020, 06:26 PM

Y'all.

I've received several reports of folks being rude and shitty to each other in here. Stop it.

I really, REALLY want folks to be able to have these discussions because we have SO MUCH to untangle and talk about as a queer community and as human beings with this latest election.

PLEASE DO have these discussions with each other but DO NOT be hateful or tell each other to "fuck off" or call someone "condescending" under the guise of what someone else might think.
Just be adults.

You all are making some fantastic points in here but we are never going to hear each other if we are too busy cyber-slapping each other.

Carry on.

Kätzchen · 11-09-2020, 08:44 PM

I read, somewhere today, that former President Bush reached out to Joe Biden and congratulated him on the historic win. I thought that was so nice of him and as a former Republican president, it made me see his statemanship in a different, positive light. I think it speaks well of former President Bush.

I also noticed that Georgia flipped a House seat, so that is wonderful. Last count I saw for the House stands at 222. So the Democrats definitely have majority control of the House.

I sure do hope that Georgia wins the two seats in the Senate. So very close, the Senate race.

Gemme · 11-10-2020, 06:26 PM

BullDog · 11-10-2020, 08:17 PM

According to NBC exit polls:

White voters: 41% Biden, 58% Trump (67% of elecorate)
Black voters: 87% Biden, 12% Trump (13% of electorate)
Hispanic/Latino Voters: 65% Biden, 32% Trump (13% of electorate)
Asian voters: 61% Biden, 34% Trump (4% of elecorate)
Other voters: 55% Biden, 41% Trump (4% of electorate)

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...ons/exit-polls

11-09-2020, 11:17 AM	#1
Martina Senior Member How Do You Identify?: * Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: * Posts: 4,999 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 13,409 Thanked 18,283 Times in 4,166 Posts Rep Power: 21474854	AOC would laugh at your "bright future" condescending tokenism. She can't be coopted. She is thinking seriously of leaving politics because centrist Dems resist every effort to help working people. This election was energized by progressives, many of whom were BIPOC. I myself phone banked extensively through a progressive union and gave money. It wasn't just our votes. And now progressives are being blamed for there not having been a blue wave. Please God, we will never face a fascist threat like Trump again. But if Biden forgets his promises, there will be no help from the left again. Try to do without our organizations, money and votes. Trump got 71 million votes. Good luck without us because it looks like that's what's going to happen. __________________ "No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up" - Lily Tomlin

11-09-2020, 11:34 AM	#2
BullDog Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: Dominant Stone Butch Daddy Preferred Pronoun?: She Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: In A Healing Place Posts: 5,371 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 18,160 Thanked 22,640 Times in 4,463 Posts Rep Power: 21474856	It isn't condescending tokenism but WTF ever Martina. Progressives can't get anything done without us either. There are way more of us than you. Progressives did contribute to the victory and so did many other people too. Yes, there were disappointments but the work goes on. Once again, why are you blaming Democrats for legislation not getting passed? The House has passed tons of bills and they are sitting in McConnell's graveyard. Why don't you fight the real enemy? Such bullshit for you to come in here and blame and be so nasty and divisive when we just scored a great victory. Eff off. __________________ Love consists in this, that two solitudes protect and touch and greet each other. - Rainer Maria Rilke

11-09-2020, 06:26 PM	#4
Medusa Mentally Delicious How Do You Identify?: Queer High Femme, thank you very much Preferred Pronoun?: Mme. Relationship Status: Married to JD. Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,446 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 5,995 Thanked 42,684 Times in 7,831 Posts Rep Power: 10000026	Y'all. I've received several reports of folks being rude and shitty to each other in here. Stop it. I really, REALLY want folks to be able to have these discussions because we have SO MUCH to untangle and talk about as a queer community and as human beings with this latest election. PLEASE DO have these discussions with each other but DO NOT be hateful or tell each other to "fuck off" or call someone "condescending" under the guise of what someone else might think. Just be adults. You all are making some fantastic points in here but we are never going to hear each other if we are too busy cyber-slapping each other. Carry on. __________________ . . . Buy ButchFemmePlanet Merch Here: https://teespring.com/stores/butchfemmeplanetcom-merch

11-09-2020, 08:44 PM	#5
Kätzchen Member How Do You Identify?: As a very feminine woman. Relationship Status: I’m not available. Join Date: May 2010 Location: Near smoke signals in the sky. Posts: 16,200 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 29,460 Thanked 33,607 Times in 10,706 Posts Rep Power: 21474868	Reflections post election I read, somewhere today, that former President Bush reached out to Joe Biden and congratulated him on the historic win. I thought that was so nice of him and as a former Republican president, it made me see his statemanship in a different, positive light. I think it speaks well of former President Bush. I also noticed that Georgia flipped a House seat, so that is wonderful. Last count I saw for the House stands at 222. So the Democrats definitely have majority control of the House. I sure do hope that Georgia wins the two seats in the Senate. So very close, the Senate race. __________________ “The way someone treats you is not a reflection of your worth: It’s a reflection of their emotional capacity,” — Jillian Turecki. “The smartest people are clearly the best listeners,” — Audible. I’m doing my part, as an American citizen, who is concerned about losing our Democracy: I boycott agencies and businesses and service providers who do not support the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Support Democracy: Vote Blue

11-10-2020, 06:26 PM	#6
Gemme Practically Lives Here How Do You Identify?: Queer Stone Femme Girl of the Unicorn Variety Preferred Pronoun?: She, as in 'She's a GEM' Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: The roads are narrow here Posts: 36,631 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 182,498 Thanked 107,925 Times in 25,666 Posts Rep Power: 21474887	What we have here is a failure to communicate....so maybe some levity? __________________ Gemme's Journal I'm misunderestimated.

11-10-2020, 08:17 PM	#7
BullDog Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: Dominant Stone Butch Daddy Preferred Pronoun?: She Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: In A Healing Place Posts: 5,371 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 18,160 Thanked 22,640 Times in 4,463 Posts Rep Power: 21474856	A Majority Of White Voters Suck According to NBC exit polls: White voters: 41% Biden, 58% Trump (67% of elecorate) Black voters: 87% Biden, 12% Trump (13% of electorate) Hispanic/Latino Voters: 65% Biden, 32% Trump (13% of electorate) Asian voters: 61% Biden, 34% Trump (4% of elecorate) Other voters: 55% Biden, 41% Trump (4% of electorate) https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...ons/exit-polls __________________ Love consists in this, that two solitudes protect and touch and greet each other. - Rainer Maria Rilke