Coronavirus ~ COVID-19

[GeorgiaMa'am]

Thank you for all your well wishes.

The boy and I are both feeling a little better. My friend/assistant has no symptoms except for feeling very tired. Hopefully that is all she will experience.

The boy's doctor told him that the severity of his symptoms is unlikely to get worse - that however a person experiences Covid symptoms, they are unlikely to add on more symptoms later. Has anyone else ever heard anything like this? (I have been living in fear that any day I will wake up unable to breathe.)

[Kätzchen]

Originally Posted by GeorgiaMa'am

Thank you for all your well wishes.

The boy and I are both feeling a little better. My friend/assistant has no symptoms except for feeling very tired. Hopefully that is all she will experience.

The boy's doctor told him that the severity of his symptoms is unlikely to get worse - that however a person experiences Covid symptoms, they are unlikely to add on more symptoms later. Has anyone else ever heard anything like this? (I have been living in fear that any day I will wake up unable to breathe.)

I can relate to your fear of waking up not being able to breathe. Last fall, beginning of October, I came down ill with something that was brutal. I couldn't breathe, was stuffed/clogged up and had a deep chest-like cough, that sent me to the ER so I could find out what my situation might be. They said I had a serious virus type illness, and I was real sick for about two to three weeks. I couldn't breathe and my body hurt terribly. I got over it by month three, right at the top of the year when we all learned about Covid-19. And since this last winter, early spring, as I have read about other's symptoms, I often wonder if I did have a case of it (as an after-thought). I just read a news story over on CNN that said now medical experts/scientists think that Covid-19 was actually transpiring across the country last fall, earlier than they thought at first.

But, interestingly enough, I've had several serious medical appts that were once post-poned, then late summer all of them booked me in, but I had to have a negative covid-test and be symptom free, to be able to be seen and treated for medical issues (sleep test, cardio-pulmonary tests. skin cancer type tests). Every covid-test I took, all of them came back negative, and I have had no symptoms that would disqualify me from getting medical tests done that could not be put off due to the pandemic. So tricky, how it all eventually went down, the timing of the appts and the extra testing to verify that I am covid-free. Scary too.

So, I don't know if sharing my experience gives some sort of explanation as to whether symptoms get worse, once you have them (if that is what you were inquiring about), but back last fall it was pretty serious, it happened rather fast, and at it's worst, two weeks into being sick, it finally turned a corner and I began to steadily recover. The process to feeling better took time, so I agree with Sister Ocean that "time" is certainly something of importance (length of illness to time-line of recovery, etc).

Keeping a candle lit for you and others in the community whose lives have been touched by this serious illness.

[easygoingfemme]

The numbers in my county doubled in the last 24 hours. Things are feeling pretty ominous. The organization that I work for is not making very smart choices either. I just noped out of a meeting I was supposed to attend today with 15 people for about 2 hours. I asked for a remote option and was told that it's in person only because the conversation is too important to have via zoom (Racial justice committee). So I'm not going to go. Which sucks because I really enjoy my part on that committee. However, I'm doing too many things to protect myself and others to go be a sitting duck like that. They also served a buffet luncheon to staff last week for Thanksgiving. I noped out on that too. I don't get it. I know that some people on that committee traveled for Tgiving and had large gatherings in their homes. Watch everyone have to go on quarantine, which would put me back on 16 hour shifts 7 days a week to cover their places.

[GeorgiaMa'am]

Originally Posted by Kätzchen

I can relate to your fear of waking up not being able to breathe. Last fall, beginning of October, I came down ill with something that was brutal. I couldn't breathe, was stuffed/clogged up and had a deep chest-like cough, that sent me to the ER so I could find out what my situation might be. They said I had a serious virus type illness, and I was real sick for about two to three weeks. I couldn't breathe and my body hurt terribly. I got over it by month three, right at the top of the year when we all learned about Covid-19. And since this last winter, early spring, as I have read about other's symptoms, I often wonder if I did have a case of it (as an after-thought). I just read a news story over on CNN that said now medical experts/scientists think that Covid-19 was actually transpiring across the country last fall, earlier than they thought at first.

The CNN story's conclusions are very interesting. Last September I had a sudden case of pneumonia, and I have wondered if it was, in fact, Covid-related. Other people have questioned this as well.

Stay well.

[~ocean]

Originally Posted by GeorgiaMa'am

The CNN story's conclusions are very interesting. Last September I had a sudden case of pneumonia, and I have wondered if it was, in fact, Covid-related. Other people have questioned this as well.

Stay well.

I agree ~ I have since the pandemic started ~ last fall there was something on CNN about a virus in China that was major concern and TRUMP was informed ~ that story died right then and there ~ I never heard of it again till it went world wide ~ TRUMP KNEW ! he has alot of American blood on his hands ~ he doesn't care.

[Bèsame*]

Originally Posted by GeorgiaMa'am

The CNN story's conclusions are very interesting. Last September I had a sudden case of pneumonia, and I have wondered if it was, in fact, Covid-related. Other people have questioned this as well.

Stay well.

I too, was really sick late last fall. I wonder if I had a strain of it? The only thing that I don't understand..no one else around me was as sick as I was. And I question where it came from. I was working then, before the store closed. Maybe a customer that traveled abroad? I'm very quick to fight off colds and such. I've never had the flu. I wonder why I was so sick for so long, respiratory issues and some serious coughing. Maybe it was stress of the store closing?

[easygoingfemme]

For the second day in a row, the numbers in my tri-city area doubled.

They changed our meetings protocol at work so there can be no more than 10 people in a room at a time. I still think it's risky but it's better. But no one is enforcing the masks in meetings. It's stated that they must be worn but I was in a meeting with 6 others yesterday and three did not wear a mask the entire time.

I got up at 5am to do a grocery run before it gets busy and before I have to go into work. Daddy and I are going to start driving out about an hour away to grocery shop where it's pretty rural and the numbers are really low.

Stay safe, all.

[Kelt]

Looks like California it’s going to be issuing regional shut downs starting on Saturday based on ICU capacities, SoCal likely to begin this weekend. It sucks but the numbers are nuts and we have to address it somehow.

I am still just amazed at the fact that there is so much non-compliance on basics like gatherings and wearing masks. Everybody is having “The Year of COVID” everybody is missing out on something. Why can’t folks just buckle down and protect each other, especially now that we can see the finish line?

I don’t get it but it is what it is, I just wish so many people didn’t have to die over it. Staying home...

[~ocean]

CDC said a short time ago that every 30 seconds someone dies of covid.

[clay]

Originally Posted by Kelt

Looks like California it’s going to be issuing regional shut downs starting on Saturday based on ICU capacities, SoCal likely to begin this weekend. It sucks but the numbers are nuts and we have to address it somehow.

I am still just amazed at the fact that there is so much non-compliance on basics like gatherings and wearing masks. Everybody is having “The Year of COVID” everybody is missing out on something. Why can’t folks just buckle down and protect each other, especially now that we can see the finish line?

I don’t get it but it is what it is, I just wish so many people didn’t have to die over it. Staying home...

I was reading a story tonight, President (elect) Biden says he wants to ask folks to please buckle down & follow CDC guidelines, and wear masks for the first 100 days, to get us to spring, then the vax is available.

Also, former Presidents Obama, Bush, & Clinton along with President Biden will take a vax if Dr. Fauci says it is okay & its has sufficient efficacy and they will all stand publicly & get theirs!!

President Biden also says he has asked Dr. Fauci to stay in his current position & to be his Chief Medical Officer.. Go, Joe!

I be Riden with Biden/Harris

[GeorgiaMa'am]

Originally Posted by GeorgiaMa'am

The boy and I are both feeling a little better. My friend/assistant has no symptoms except for feeling very tired. Hopefully that is all she will experience.

The boy's doctor told him that the severity of his symptoms is unlikely to get worse - that however a person experiences Covid symptoms, they are unlikely to add on more symptoms later.

My friend/assistant has developed a cough and headaches. The boy now has a mild case of pneumonia.

I guess his doctor was wrong.

I am the only one of us who is almost entirely better. I have a slight cough that won't quite go away.

Also, I don't quite understand the quarantine. I thought it was 14 days from the first day you experienced symptoms. But no, it seems they consider you positive until your symptoms are gone? Or maybe it's 14 days after your symptoms are over? I'll have to Google it.

[GeorgiaMa'am]

Originally Posted by GeorgiaMa'am

I don't quite understand the quarantine . . . I'll have to Google it.

from the CDC website (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...olation.html):

I think or know I had COVID-19, and I had symptoms
You can be around others after:

10 days since symptoms first appeared and
24 hours with no fever without the use of fever-reducing medications and
Other symptoms of COVID-19 are improving*
*Loss of taste and smell may persist for weeks or months after recovery and need not delay the end of isolation​

Most people do not require testing to decide when they can be around others; however, if your healthcare provider recommends testing, they will let you know when you can resume being around others based on your test results.

Note that these recommendations do not apply to persons with severe COVID-19 or with severely weakened immune systems (immunocompromised). These persons should follow the guidance below for “I was severely ill with COVID-19 or have a severely weakened immune system (immunocompromised) due to a health condition or medication. When can I be around others?”

I was severely ill with COVID-19 or have a severely weakened immune system (immunocompromised) due to a health condition or medication. When can I be around others?
People who are severely ill with COVID-19 might need to stay home longer than 10 days and up to 20 days after symptoms first appeared. Persons who are severely immunocompromised may require testing to determine when they can be around others. Talk to your healthcare provider for more information. If testing is available in your community, it may be recommended by your healthcare provider. Your healthcare provider will let you know if you can resume being around other people based on the results of your testing.

Your doctor may work with an infectious disease expert or your local health department to determine whether testing will be necessary before you can be around others.

[Gemme]

Originally Posted by Gemme

Well, it's official. The smallest state has the biggest jerks and morons. Thanks to the cavalier idiots running amok here, Rhode Island leads the nation in average daily cases per 100k.


The CDC's COVID Data Tracker shows Rhode Island with 110.6 average daily cases per 100,000 people.

Rhode Island's daily positivity rate was 9.2% on Friday.

Well, we've gotten better at being the worst. It's now 123 positive cases per 100,000. We're followed by Indiana.

Also, more Americans died on Wednesday alone than in 9-11.

Think about that for a minute.

If Americans weren't so effin entitled, we could be like Australia or New Zealand and whip this thing but noooooo, stupid people have stupid parties and stupid people have big gatherings for the holidays and don't "like" wearing masks as if any of us do and governors and other political figures are caught breaking the oh, so basic rules themselves so of course their constituents aren't going to follow through and then there are the absolute idiotic morons that think it's a damn hoax or use their power and influence to push the irrational theory that it's really not all that bad. WTH, man. WTH.

[Cin]

The richest country in the world still resists any kind of safety net for its most vulnerable, even providing the most basic things like food, healthcare, and shelter, things that people in other developed countries take for granted, are considered taboo in the US. God forbid we should help struggling human beings. The deeply held belief that people's misfortune is their own fault and they should have made better choices or decisions so they deserve what they get is entrenched in the collective psyche of the United States. I know it's a part of human nature and this kind of thinking is seen all over the world but it is the party line for Americans. It's a cruel place to stumble compared with other wealthy nations and because of the pandemic more people than ever are coming to grips with this reality.

The thing is people want to survive so they will find workarounds where they can.

https://jezebel.com/shoplifting-has-...sto-1845857621

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...ifting-hunger/

[~ocean]

Nancy Grace , her children (twins age 13 ) husband, and her mom , all have covid. Prayers for them all ~

[Orema]

An Arizona doctor went viral decrying a lack of ICU beds. Then he says his hospital shut him out.


Cleavon Gilman, an emergency room doctor, moved in June from New York City to Yuma, Ariz., to help the rural community in its battle against the coronavirus. (Cleavon Gilman)

By Andrea Salcedo
Dec. 11, 2020 at 4:25 a.m. PST

Cleavon Gilman has worked through three coronavirus surges, but the emergency room doctor reached his breaking point on Nov. 22. The physician had just arrived at a Yuma, Ariz., hospital for a 12-hour shift, and soon realized the facility had nowhere to send three ICU patients.

So, he tweeted: “Just got to work and was notified there are no more ICU beds in the state of Arizona.”

The tweet swiftly went viral, helping to propel Gilman to such prominence that President-elect Joe Biden later called to thank him for his advocacy. The next day, though, he says the hospital told the third-party company that he works through that it didn’t want him to return. Gilman, 41, says he’s been kept out of work since Nov. 23.

“The hospital is intentionally hurting me financially for speaking out, and I’m not permitted to work,” Gilman told The Washington Post on Thursday.

The hospital, though, insists that Gilman hasn’t been fired and in fact is scheduled to return to the ER this weekend.

“It’s clear there has been a misunderstanding,” Shay Andres, a Yuma Regional Medical Center spokeswoman, said in an email statement early Friday. “While he is not speaking on behalf of YRMC, we respect Dr. Gilman’s right to share his personal perspective on the pandemic.”

Gilman, in response, said that is “news to me.”

The conflict in Yuma, first reported by the Arizona Republic, echoes claims by other health-care workers who say they’ve faced repercussions from employers for sounding alarms about the dire state of a pandemic that has killed more than 291,000 Americans.

In March, a Seattle hospital confirmed an emergency physician had been terminated for criticizing its ER precautions, which an official compared to “yelling fire in a crowded theater,” the Seattle Times reported. In May, a D.C. hospital employee filed a lawsuit alleging she lost her job after posting that the hospital did not have enough coronavirus safety precautions. The hospital said that the associate had not been terminated.

‘I have never felt so helpless’: Front-line workers confront loss
Gilman, an Iraq War veteran who served as a hospital corpsman with the U.S. Marine Corps in 2004, spent the first months of the pandemic treating patients as the chief ER resident at NewYork-Presbyterian Hospital. He has given multiple interviews to national outlets including CNN and the New York Times, and was back in the spotlight last week when Biden called to tell him “how much he appreciates” the efforts of health-care workers like him.

During the months when New York City became the pandemic’s epicenter, Gilman spent up to three hours after his shifts documenting the disease in his blog. In June, Gilman, his fiancee and two children moved to Yuma to work at the hospital there.

Although Gilman had pushed through two coronavirus surges in New York and one peak in Arizona, the week before his Nov. 22 tweet, the physician says, the hospital had reached a dire point. He had intubated dozens of patients, and every shift, he said, he worried that at least two critically ill patients with covid-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus, would die.

So when he got to the hospital the evening of Nov. 22 to find out it had run out of intensive care unit beds, Gilman took his frustrations to Twitter and posted the message in an act of “moral obligation,” he said. That night, the hospital was so full that he had to treat families infected with covid-19 in the waiting room. Back then, the Arizona Department of Health Services reported 90 percent of the state’s ICU beds were in use.

“I have a moral obligation to provide the general public with the truth,” he said. “I didn’t do anything wrong. I was sharing information.”

Gilman went to bed after finishing his shift at around 7 a.m. the next day. When he woke up, the physician, who has more than 85,000 followers on Twitter, said he received a call from Envision Healthcare, the medical group that hired him, telling him that the hospital was “upset” and “didn’t want me to come back,” Gilman told The Post.

Gilman said hospital administrators have not called or emailed him to tell him he cannot go back. “I let my company, Envision, try to negotiate with the hospital,” he added.

In a statement to The Post, Envision did not directly address Gilman’s claims, instead noting that the doctor has “continuously advocated for his patients and the health and safety of the Yuma community.” The company confirmed Gilman’s account to the Republic.

He has now missed five shifts at the hospital despite a shortage of health-care workers after several colleagues have tested positive for the virus since then, Gilman said. As of Friday, the state’s department of health services reported Yuma County had the highest rate of cases per 100,000 in the state. The hospital, which should have seen him as an ally, he said, has instead treated him as a threat.

But the hospital, in its statement, insisted it values Gilman’s role in the ER.
“This is an ‘all hands on deck’ moment, in our emergency department and thousands of others across the country,” Andres said. “We need good caregivers like Dr. Gilman here, serving patients at the bedside and providing the best care possible, and we are grateful for all of those who continue to do that on the frontline every day.”

Gilman is unsure now whether he will return to the hospital. In the meantime, he said he will continue tweeting and speaking to the media to raise awareness about the seriousness of the pandemic.

“People are still dying,” Gilman said. “I’m not going to be quiet because you have a problem with me telling the truth.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...a-covid-fired/

[GeorgiaMa'am]

Originally Posted by ~ocean

Nancy Grace , her children (twins age 13 ) husband, and her mom , all have covid. Prayers for them all ~

Once Covid gets into a house, it seems like everyone gets it. We were really careful; after the boy got it, we were masking inside the house, spraying and wiping down stuff, using separate bathrooms - and we all got it anyway.