RIP

[Gráinne]

I never said I agreed with him. I'm actually neutral.

Let's say someone who seems much respected on this board were to pass-Rachel Maddow, for instance, whom I happen to loathe. If I were to say I would dance on her grave or call her the devil incarnate, I would be raked over the coals.

What's the difference?

[Jedi]

Originally Posted by Gráinne

I never said I agreed with him. I'm actually neutral.

Let's say someone who seems much respected on this board were to pass-Rachel Maddow, for instance, whom I happen to loathe. If I were to say I would dance on her grave or call her the devil incarnate, I would be raked over the coals.

What's the difference?

Is a RIP thread really the place for this?

[GeorgiaMa'am]

Originally Posted by Jedi

Is a RIP thread really the place for this?

Possibly not, possibly so. The nature of appropriate posts for any thread is at least tangentially related to that thread, but you're probably right, as these kinds of posts were not the intention of the OP. But I felt like I had been called out, and so I responded. I really kind of hope it ends soon, maybe with a "let's agree to disagree", or I would think it should probably be moved to its own thread.

[C0LLETTE]

Originally Posted by Jedi

Is a RIP thread really the place for this?

As long as he's dead and stays dead, i don't care where I celebrate.

Some deaths occasion an enormous outpouring of grief; some are cause for celebration.

Personally I don't care as long as he stays very very dead.

If you know of a better place I could cheer, please let me know.

Maybe I should have put this in the "What Made You Smile, Today" thread.

[GeorgiaMa'am]

Originally Posted by Gráinne

I never said I agreed with him. I'm actually neutral.

Let's say someone who seems much respected on this board were to pass-Rachel Maddow, for instance, whom I happen to loathe. If I were to say I would dance on her grave or call her the devil incarnate, I would be raked over the coals.

What's the difference?

I'd say it's an unequal comparison. Rachel Maddow doesn't have the influence or longevity or the supporters that r.l. did. I can't imagine that r.l. was "much respected" by anyone whose opinion I would value - and if I found out that anyone I cared about did respect r.l., I would have to seriously reconsider my relationship with that person.

But I will say that I think you're the grown-up here, Gráinne. I don't feel good about myself for hating r.l.; I hold grudges for a long time, even after death, and I realize they only hurt me at that point.

[VintageFemme]

Originally Posted by GeorgiaMa'am

. . .I don't feel good about myself for hating r.l.; I hold grudges for a long time, even after death, and I realize they only hurt me at that point.

It’s ok—essential, even—to speak the truth about people who caused great harm.

Even after their death.

via -Rabbi Danya Ruttenberg, MSNBC Daily Columnist

[Jedi]

Sigh...I was meaning was the RIP thread the place where all celebrate Rush Limbaugh's demise? Why not start a whole new thread for that? There was debate of things in the RIP thread. I kinda think RIP is meant to honor someone who has passed who has changed our lives for the better (or the worse).

[BullDog]

Originally Posted by Gráinne

I never said I agreed with him. I'm actually neutral.

Let's say someone who seems much respected on this board were to pass-Rachel Maddow, for instance, whom I happen to loathe. If I were to say I would dance on her grave or call her the devil incarnate, I would be raked over the coals.

What's the difference?

Wow you only feel "neutral" about someone as hateful and despicable as Rush Limbaugh but you loathe Rachel Maddow? That is truly, truly unreal. Limbaugh spent time on his radio show celebrating the deaths of AIDS victims, among many, many other truly despicable acts. It was called "AIDS Update" where he read out the names of gay people who had died and celebrated with horns and bells.

I personally don't want to dance on his grave but I am very, very relieved that such a hateful person is gone. I am also very happy that he never had any offspring.

The best response I have seen to his death was from an Instagram account called "Liberal Scum" that raised $400,000 for Planned Parenthood in Limbaugh's honor.

[CherylNYC]

Originally Posted by Gráinne

I never said I agreed with him. I'm actually neutral.

Let's say someone who seems much respected on this board were to pass-Rachel Maddow, for instance, whom I happen to loathe. If I were to say I would dance on her grave or call her the devil incarnate, I would be raked over the coals.

What's the difference?

You're neutral about RL? Are you sure? This is who we're discussing:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/rush-...b66809cb30ad57

Besides his relentless hatred of our own people who were suffering and dying of a terrible disease, here's an itty bitty sample from his decades of bigotry and hate spewing:

"A full accounting of Limbaugh’s lies and exaggerations; his racism and his misogyny; his homophobia and his Islamophobia; and his sheer cruelty could fill books — and have — but even a cursory overview of his lowlights makes his prejudice clear.

In 2003, he was forced to resign from ESPN after stating that Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb was only receiving praise because the media was “very desirous that a Black quarterback do well.” In 2004, Limbaugh said the NBA should be renamed the T.B.A. —“the Thug Basketball Association.” He then added: “Stop calling them teams. Call ’em gangs.” He similarly whined that watching the NFL was like watching “a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons.”

Once, after arguing with a Black man who called into his show, he told the caller to “take that bone out of your nose and call me back.“ Another time, Limbaugh asked his audience, “Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?” while discussing the Black civil rights activist and politician. Limbaugh once ludicrously asserted that “if any race of people should not have guilt about slavery, it’s Caucasians.” He invited a guest on air who sang “Barack, the Magic Negro” to the tune of “Puff, the Magic Dragon.” In 2016, he read an essay on air that had been penned by a well-known white supremacist.


Limbaugh’s radio career was also one long exercise in misogyny, perhaps best summed up by his thesis that “feminism was established so as to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream of society.”

In one of his most infamous episodes, he called Georgetown University law student Sandra Fluke a “slut” and a “prostitute” in 2012 after she testified in Congress about the importance of women having access to birth control. "



You're neutral about the dude that spews this crap, but you loathe Rachel Maddow. What's up with that, Grainne?

[Jedi]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/02/u...rdan-dead.html

[C0LLETTE]

Oh Bless you dear Cheryl. I am so very tired of the "neutrals " who never speak up but whose eyes always go to the basement door when the Gestapo asks where the Jews are hiding.

Take a stand or get off the planet. The only place you get free rent is in Hell.

Why should everyone else have to carry the weight.

Being neutral doesn't make you a good person. It makes you an unethical bloodsucker surviving on the courage (for better or worse) of others.

[BullDog]

The amazing writer Beverly Cleary has died at the age of 104. She wrote incredible children’s books, including the Henry Huggins and Ramona Quimby series. She was from Portland Oregon and I lived near Klickatat Street at one point - where Henry and Ramona lived.

My favorite book when I was very young - under the age of 5 - was The Mouse And The Motorcycle. It was about a mouse who lived in a hotel. A boy came to stay there with his family and had a toy motorcycle. The mouse would ride the motorcycle around at night on adventures. I loved that book so much. My parents read it to me so many times that I ended up memorizing it and how I got started learning how to read before I went to kindergarten.

Thank you Beverly Cleary for bringing so much happiness to me as a child.

[Kätzchen]

Originally Posted by BullDog

The amazing writer Beverly Cleary has died at the age of 104. She wrote incredible children’s books, including the Henry Huggins and Ramona Quimby series. She was from Portland Oregon and I lived near Klickatat Street at one point - where Henry and Ramona lived.

My favorite book when I was very young - under the age of 5 - was The Mouse And The Motorcycle. It was about a mouse who lived in a hotel. A boy came to stay there with his family and had a toy motorcycle. The mouse would ride the motorcycle around at night on adventures. I loved that book so much. My parents read it to me so many times that I ended up memorizing it and how I got started learning how to read before I went to kindergarten.

Thank you Beverly Cleary for bringing so much happiness to me as a child.

Years ago, when my two sons were elementary aged kids, I used to take them to a neighborhood library, on Saturday's, for the kids reading hour. The librarians had a volunteer organizer for these weekend events for parents and our kids. My boys liked the stories about Henry Huggins and Ramona Quimby. The librarian's volunteer had put together a puppet theater show too, which kids loved too. One year, my elderly lady friends (they were sisters) gave my sons books by Beverly Clearly.

Good memories, indeed.

[Jedi]

RIP DMX

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/09/enter...ies/index.html

He was quite young.

[Gemme]

Ruby, the dog portrayed in Rescued by Ruby, passed away from cancer.

She was a good girl. A very, very good girl.

[Gemme]

Queen Elizabeth II passed away on Thursday, September 8th. She was 96 years old. Buckingham Palace confirmed the news.