Politics-What's on your mind?

BullDog · 03-10-2021, 04:24 PM

Today is a great day for the Biden Administration, Democrats, and the entire country. The American Rescue Plan passed, Merrick Garland was confirmed as Attorney General and Marcia Fudge as HUD Secretary.

This is truly landmark legislation. It's great to see government hard at work again. Repugs are just the party of no. It's pathetic.

I'm telling all the yapping Trump supporters to either give their $1400 back or stop bashing Biden and the Democrats since the Democrats are 100% responsible for them getting the money and that no Republican supported the bill. I know it does no good but they need to shut up and I'm gonna tell em, lol.

firegal · 03-10-2021, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BullDog

Today is a great day for the Biden Administration, Democrats, and the entire country. The American Rescue Plan passed, Merrick Garland was confirmed as Attorney General and Marcia Fudge as HUD Secretary.

This is truly landmark legislation. It's great to see government hard at work again. Repugs are just the party of no. It's pathetic.

I'm telling all the yapping Trump supporters to either give their $1400 back or stop bashing Biden and the Democrats since the Democrats are 100% responsible for them getting the money and that no Republican supported the bill. I know it does no good but they need to shut up and I'm gonna tell em, lol.

Agree all the Biden bashers arent sending back the checks bigger than the GOP folks wanted!

homoe · 03-10-2021, 10:39 PM

Rep. Lauren Boebertrt (R-Colo.) faced backlash this week for releasing an ad attacking Democrats and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) that ended with a gunshot sound.

In the spot, the QAnon-endorsing first-term lawmaker called on Pelosi to “tear down” the security fence that was put up around the U.S. Capitol following the Jan. 6 insurrection, when a violent mob of then-President Donald Trump’s supporters overran the Capitol building.

“It’s time to cut the crap and remember, this is the people’s house,” Boebert bombastically declared.

The video concluded with audio of a gunshot, followed by the sound of the weapon being reloaded and fired again.

nhplowboi · 03-11-2021, 06:08 AM

According to the NY Times, influential Evangelical Beth Moore is going to quit Southern Baptists over Trump. As tweeted by Beth MooreLPM on 12/13/2020, "I do not believe these are days for mincing words. I'm 63 1/2 years old & I have never seen anything in these United States of America I found more astonishingly seductive & dangerous to the saints of God than Trumpism. This Christian nationalism is not of God. Move back from it." Now if only the rest can come to their senses.

nhplowboi · 03-11-2021, 06:57 AM

Here.....let's start with this idiot. Pastor Robin Bullock, who describes himself as operating "heavily" in the prophetic realm, claimed during a Tuesday church service that prophets will call back former President Donald Trump "for three terms.". Bullock, who is the founder of Alabama's Youth Force Ministries Church International and hosts the weekly "prophetic" YouTube program The Eleventh Hour, said it was apparent Trump was still president when "all you have to do is listen to him. He's the president."
I need to create a list of the people who should be sent a copy of Rick Wilson's book "Everything Trump Touches Dies".

Orema · 03-11-2021, 06:13 PM

Ending the End of Welfare as We Knew It
The Democrats’ new child benefit is a very big deal.

Paul Krugman
Opinion Columnist, Economist

The era of “the era of big government is over” is over.

Credit...Carolyn Drake/Magnum Photos

The relief bill President Biden just signed is breathtaking in its scope. Yet conservative opposition was remarkably limp. While not a single Republican voted for the legislation, the rhetorical onslaught from right-wing politicians and media was notably low energy, perhaps because the Biden plan is incredibly popular. Even as Democrats moved to disburse $1.9 trillion in government aid, their opponents mainly seemed to be talking about Dr. Seuss and Mr. Potato Head.

What makes this lack of energy especially striking is that the American Rescue Plan doesn’t just spend a lot of money. It also embodies some big changes in the philosophy of public policy, a turn away from the conservative ideology that has dominated U.S. politics for four decades.

In particular, there is a sense — a strictly limited sense, as I’ll explain, but real nonetheless — in which the legislation, in addition to reviving the notion of government as the solution, not the problem, also ends the “end of welfare as we know it.”

Once upon a time there was a program called Aid to Families With Dependent Children — the program people usually had in mind when they talked about “welfare.” It was originally intended to support white widows while they raised their children, and it was effectively denied to both Black and unwed mothers. Over time, however, these restrictions were eroded, and the program rapidly expanded from the early 1960s to the early 1970s.

The program also became hugely unpopular. In part, of course, this reflected the race of many beneficiaries. But many commentators also blamed A.F.D.C. for creating a culture of dependency that was in turn responsible for the growing social ills of inner cities, although later scholarship, notably the work of William Julius Wilson, suggested that the real cause of these ills was the disappearance of urban jobs. (The social problems that have followed economic decline in much of the American heartland seem to confirm Wilson’s thesis.)

In any case, in 1996 Bill Clinton enacted reforms that both drastically reduced aid to the poor and imposed draconian work requirements, even on single mothers. Welfare as we knew it really did end.

But the American Rescue Plan Act, closely following proposals from Senator Michael Bennet, reinstates significant aid for children. Moreover, unlike most of the act’s provisions, this change (like enhanced Obamacare subsidies) is intended to outlast the current crisis; Democrats hope and expect that substantial payments to families with children will become a permanent part of the American scene.

So is “welfare” back? Not really.

A.F.D.C. was intended to provide mothers with enough to get by — barely — while raising their children. In 1970 three-person families on A.F.D.C. received, on average, $194 a month. Adjusting for inflation, that’s the equivalent of around $15,000 a year today, compared with the $6,000 a family with two children over age 6 ($7,200 if they’re under 6) will receive under the new plan.

Alternatively, it may be more informative to compare “welfare” payments with the incomes of typical families. In 1970, an A.F.D.C. family of three received about 25 percent of median income for three-person families — hardly a generous allowance, but maybe, just, enough to live on. The new legislation will give a single parent of two children less than 7 percent of median income.

On the other hand, the new program will be far less intrusive than A.F.D.C., which constantly required that parents prove their need; there were even cases where aid was cut off because a caseworker discovered an able-bodied man in the house, claiming that he could and should be supporting the children. The new aid will be unconditional for families earning less than $75,000 a year.

So no, this isn’t a return to welfare as we knew it; nobody will be able to live on child support. But it will sharply reduce child poverty. And it also, as I said, represents a philosophical break with the past few decades, and in particular with the obsessive fear that poor people might take advantage of government aid by choosing not to work.

True, some on the right are still flogging that horse. The ever-shrinking Marco Rubio denounced plans for a child tax credit as “welfare assistance.” Wonks at the American Enterprise Institute warned that some unmarried mothers might somewhat reduce working hours, although their estimate looks pretty small — and since when is working a bit less to spend time with your kids an unadulterated evil?

In any case, these traditional attacks, which used to terrify Democrats, no longer seem to be resonating. Clearly, something has changed in American politics.

To be honest, I’m not sure what provoked this change. Many expected major change under President Barack Obama, elected in the wake of a financial crisis that should have discredited free-market orthodoxy. But although he achieved a lot — especially Obamacare! — there wasn’t a big paradigm shift.

But now that shift seems to have arrived. And millions of American children will benefit.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/11/o...gtype=Homepage

GeorgiaMa'am · 03-11-2021, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orema

Ending the End of Welfare as We Knew It
The Democrats’ new child benefit is a very big deal.

Paul Krugman
Opinion Columnist, Economist
. . .

According to the BBC Hardtalk program, most wealthy nations have some kind of child tax credit to prevent child poverty. In these countries, it's generally considered the right thing to do, and there's little or none of the American pull-yourself-up-by-your-own-bootstraps type sentiment.

03-10-2021, 04:24 PM	#1
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03-11-2021, 06:13 PM	#6
Orema Superlative Soul Sister How Do You Identify?: Lesbian stone femme Preferred Pronoun?: She, her Relationship Status: Moving in a single file Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Cottage of Content Posts: 13,566 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 41,430 Thanked 34,700 Times in 8,926 Posts Rep Power: 21474861	Ending the End of Welfare as We Knew It Ending the End of Welfare as We Knew It The Democrats’ new child benefit is a very big deal. Paul Krugman Opinion Columnist, Economist The era of “the era of big government is over” is over. Credit...Carolyn Drake/Magnum Photos The relief bill President Biden just signed is breathtaking in its scope. Yet conservative opposition was remarkably limp. While not a single Republican voted for the legislation, the rhetorical onslaught from right-wing politicians and media was notably low energy, perhaps because the Biden plan is incredibly popular. Even as Democrats moved to disburse $1.9 trillion in government aid, their opponents mainly seemed to be talking about Dr. Seuss and Mr. Potato Head. What makes this lack of energy especially striking is that the American Rescue Plan doesn’t just spend a lot of money. It also embodies some big changes in the philosophy of public policy, a turn away from the conservative ideology that has dominated U.S. politics for four decades. In particular, there is a sense — a strictly limited sense, as I’ll explain, but real nonetheless — in which the legislation, in addition to reviving the notion of government as the solution, not the problem, also ends the “end of welfare as we know it.” Once upon a time there was a program called Aid to Families With Dependent Children — the program people usually had in mind when they talked about “welfare.” It was originally intended to support white widows while they raised their children, and it was effectively denied to both Black and unwed mothers. Over time, however, these restrictions were eroded, and the program rapidly expanded from the early 1960s to the early 1970s. The program also became hugely unpopular. In part, of course, this reflected the race of many beneficiaries. But many commentators also blamed A.F.D.C. for creating a culture of dependency that was in turn responsible for the growing social ills of inner cities, although later scholarship, notably the work of William Julius Wilson, suggested that the real cause of these ills was the disappearance of urban jobs. (The social problems that have followed economic decline in much of the American heartland seem to confirm Wilson’s thesis.) In any case, in 1996 Bill Clinton enacted reforms that both drastically reduced aid to the poor and imposed draconian work requirements, even on single mothers. Welfare as we knew it really did end. But the American Rescue Plan Act, closely following proposals from Senator Michael Bennet, reinstates significant aid for children. Moreover, unlike most of the act’s provisions, this change (like enhanced Obamacare subsidies) is intended to outlast the current crisis; Democrats hope and expect that substantial payments to families with children will become a permanent part of the American scene. So is “welfare” back? Not really. A.F.D.C. was intended to provide mothers with enough to get by — barely — while raising their children. In 1970 three-person families on A.F.D.C. received, on average, $194 a month. Adjusting for inflation, that’s the equivalent of around $15,000 a year today, compared with the $6,000 a family with two children over age 6 ($7,200 if they’re under 6) will receive under the new plan. Alternatively, it may be more informative to compare “welfare” payments with the incomes of typical families. In 1970, an A.F.D.C. family of three received about 25 percent of median income for three-person families — hardly a generous allowance, but maybe, just, enough to live on. The new legislation will give a single parent of two children less than 7 percent of median income. On the other hand, the new program will be far less intrusive than A.F.D.C., which constantly required that parents prove their need; there were even cases where aid was cut off because a caseworker discovered an able-bodied man in the house, claiming that he could and should be supporting the children. The new aid will be unconditional for families earning less than $75,000 a year. So no, this isn’t a return to welfare as we knew it; nobody will be able to live on child support. But it will sharply reduce child poverty. And it also, as I said, represents a philosophical break with the past few decades, and in particular with the obsessive fear that poor people might take advantage of government aid by choosing not to work. True, some on the right are still flogging that horse. The ever-shrinking Marco Rubio denounced plans for a child tax credit as “welfare assistance.” Wonks at the American Enterprise Institute warned that some unmarried mothers might somewhat reduce working hours, although their estimate looks pretty small — and since when is working a bit less to spend time with your kids an unadulterated evil? In any case, these traditional attacks, which used to terrify Democrats, no longer seem to be resonating. Clearly, something has changed in American politics. To be honest, I’m not sure what provoked this change. Many expected major change under President Barack Obama, elected in the wake of a financial crisis that should have discredited free-market orthodoxy. But although he achieved a lot — especially Obamacare! — there wasn’t a big paradigm shift. But now that shift seems to have arrived. And millions of American children will benefit. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/11/o...gtype=Homepage

03-10-2021, 10:39 PM	#3
homoe Practically Lives Here How Do You Identify?: Butch Relationship Status: ..... Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: 30 minute ferry ride from Seattle Posts: 38,565 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 20,811 Thanked 33,560 Times in 14,919 Posts Rep Power: 21474890	Rep. Lauren Boebertrt (R-Colo.) faced backlash this week for releasing an ad attacking Democrats and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) that ended with a gunshot sound. In the spot, the QAnon-endorsing first-term lawmaker called on Pelosi to “tear down” the security fence that was put up around the U.S. Capitol following the Jan. 6 insurrection, when a violent mob of then-President Donald Trump’s supporters overran the Capitol building. “It’s time to cut the crap and remember, this is the people’s house,” Boebert bombastically declared. The video concluded with audio of a gunshot, followed by the sound of the weapon being reloaded and fired again.

03-11-2021, 06:08 AM	#4
nhplowboi Member How Do You Identify?: FTM Preferred Pronoun?: male pronouns Relationship Status: Divorcee Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 999 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 5,325 Thanked 3,886 Times in 825 Posts Rep Power: 21474852	According to the NY Times, influential Evangelical Beth Moore is going to quit Southern Baptists over Trump. As tweeted by Beth MooreLPM on 12/13/2020, "I do not believe these are days for mincing words. I'm 63 1/2 years old & I have never seen anything in these United States of America I found more astonishingly seductive & dangerous to the saints of God than Trumpism. This Christian nationalism is not of God. Move back from it." Now if only the rest can come to their senses.

03-11-2021, 06:57 AM	#5
nhplowboi Member How Do You Identify?: FTM Preferred Pronoun?: male pronouns Relationship Status: Divorcee Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 999 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 5,325 Thanked 3,886 Times in 825 Posts Rep Power: 21474852	Here.....let's start with this idiot. Pastor Robin Bullock, who describes himself as operating "heavily" in the prophetic realm, claimed during a Tuesday church service that prophets will call back former President Donald Trump "for three terms.". Bullock, who is the founder of Alabama's Youth Force Ministries Church International and hosts the weekly "prophetic" YouTube program The Eleventh Hour, said it was apparent Trump was still president when "all you have to do is listen to him. He's the president." I need to create a list of the people who should be sent a copy of Rick Wilson's book "Everything Trump Touches Dies".